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By ObviousTroll (Mon Jul 11, 2022 at 08:03:09 PM EST) (all tags)
Regular heroes. Super-heroes. Anti-heroes. Asshole-heroes. All of 'em. 


So, I was allowed out of the house today, for the first time since my surgery. SWHTL loaded me up into the passenger seat of my own damn car, drove me to the surgeon who had new x-rays made, checked my incisions (4 of them, all told, one in front, right alongside the belly button, and 3 in the back), and proclaimed himself satisfied with my progress - but then looked startled when I told him I'd taken myself off the pain meds because they weren't doing anything and I was wondering when I'd be cleared for "real" PT. He replied that he didn't want me doing anything more than walking for a few more weeks and still no BLT (bending, lifting, or twisting).

He might have a point. By the time I got home again I was quite done for the day even though there are a ton of things that need doing. I think I'm spending ~20 hours a day in this recliner.

But he also repeated a claim he'd made to me before surgery, and I've been turning it over in my head all day without any idea of what to make of it. He said that I must have an extremely high tolerance for pain both because I had already stopped taking the pain pills and because, based on the rapid degeneration of my back, he believed I had to have been in extreme pain throughout 2022.

The thing is, my chiropractor had been saying the same thing up until the beginning of May while I was going around telling people I was feeling much better, thanks. Even after I realized that the chiropractor was no longer helping, the only reason I gave in and saw the new surgeon was because a new set of x-rays showed me how my spine had gotten enough worse since January that I was beginning to worry about paralysis. (I learned after the surgery that one of the vertebrae had so thoroughly jammed into another that it had dug a furrow into the vertebra below and they had begun to naturally fuse together. The surgeon had to cut them apart to get them back into alignment.) 

So now I'm trying to figure out if any of that actually means anything - if it matters in any context beyond the fact that 5mg of oxycodone doesn't do fuck-all for me except make me constipated. I've always believed that in the moment of emergency/crisis/accident I seemed to be able to keep a clear head and to do (or keep doing) whatever had to be done despite any injuries. But I've also known that during the weeks of recovery after such an event I always behaved like a whiny toddler. (And it is also true that I have blessedly never been really tested by a serious physical injury - major road rash, slashed hand, slightly cracked noggin were the worst of it and at this point I don't need a more serious test, thanks.) It's not like I don't feel pain right now, either, my legs throb from hips to toes and my lower back feeling like someone sandpapered it - it's just the pain pills don't seem to have any effect on either of those things. I just don't seem to notice either during the daytime unless I stop and think about it and nights it might be worse or it might just be that I have nothing to think about so it seems worse, if you see what I mean...

Does it matter? I mean, possibly, in the sense that by not noticing (admitting?) how much pain I was in I probably let things get much worse than they otherwise might have been. But I'm definitely too old to play Darkman so I'm staying in the recliner as much as possible no matter how good I think I feel.

Which brings me to the subject of this diary - I am so tired of heroes. 

I mean, let's be up front here. I'm a geek. And when I was a kid, I was a comic-book geek. I was a Marvel geek. But live-action movies and tv shows of comic book shows (that weren't Batman) from the 70's through the 90's were just... awful. When the first Spiderman movie appeared in 2002 I had very low expectations but when it turned out so well I was thrilled. And when Iron Man came out... I mean, hell, I'd been an Iron Man fanboy (they call them "stans" now?) since I was in first grade and RDJ just nailed Tony Stark.

But that was, what, more than 25 movies ago? Plus all the other franchises, the DC stuff, the indie stuff, the X-Men (another childhood favorite) and, somewhere along the line, I just stopped caring about any of it. I stopped watching them in theaters quite a while back, can't remember exactly when, but I know I didn't watch End Game till long after it was on streaming and only because SWHTL was away for the weekend. There's a bunch of X-movies I haven't seen at all, I haven't seen any of the DCEU stuff except Aquaman which I only saw because my mom and SWHTL wanted to ogle Jason Momoa, haven't even seen much animated stuff, no Invincible, for example. Stopped watching Agents of Shield when they jumped the VR shark.

I did enjoy WandaVision but I only watched No Way Home just before surgery because I literally had nothing else to do, and the only scene I enjoyed where where Peter 2 cracked Peter 1's back because it was a meta-reference to the real back injuries Toby Maguire suffered when he filmed his Spiderman movies. Haven't watched a single episode of Ms Marvel even though twitter assures me that that means I'm an anti-Muslim bigot.

Now I'm stuck in this recliner and I'm trying to watch The Boys because I like Karl Urban and there isn't a single character in the series I care about and, despite having enjoyed both the Jane Foster/Thor and Gorr the God Butcher runs in the comics I have zero desire to watch the film.

And I can't help but thinking that Disney is planning to invest potential billions in the next wave of Marvel movies and series but I can't be the only one who's burned out on the whole idea...?

Instead of watching heroes, I'm burning away the hours playing wordle and all it's ordley variants.
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And, yeah, by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #1 Mon Jul 11, 2022 at 08:56:43 PM EST
I recognize the apparent contradiction with my previous diary where I talked about how much pain I was in immediately after the surgery. All I can say is, “I dunno.” 

Neverending stories… by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #2 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 05:31:36 AM EST
With all the Marvel/DC/X -Men if you fall behind it’s hundreds of hours to catch up, and I’ve better things to do. Same with so many tv shows. So much “continuity”. It was new, different, and fun when Babylon 5 did it, but now they all do it, and if you miss a couple episodes you’re lost. So now I wait until a show wraps to start. Star Trek Strange New Worlds is getting excellent reviews but we’ll see. Westworld was apparently really good the first 2 seasons, but fell off in the third, and I’ve heard nothing about the new season which is not a good sign.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

I pretty much agree with all of that. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 09:03:36 AM EST
Out of boredom I started watching Strange New Worlds. It’s not bad but it’s following the TOS recipe so carefully it’s a little annoying. Highlights were Cadet Uhura as a character and the Gorn redesign, but once I watch the finale I’m cancelling because the !@#%!# playstation app is horrifically bad. I simply wouldn’t even consider it to be alpha quality.

Westworld, again, I completely agree. We watched two seasons and just stopped bothering partway through the 3rd.




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I don't know if it's all that by lm (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 10:21:11 AM EST
I don't think the latest Spider-Man or Dr. Strange movies need the whole back story to understand. Sure, Multiverse of Madness is a little easier to follow if you've seen WandaVision and No Way Home is a little easier to follow if you've seen End Game. But if you haven't seen the precursors it's no more different than Buckaroo Banzai where the precursors didn't exist.

I think a larger issue is studios trying to extend story lines past their natural expiration dates. Like the X-Men franchise. It's time for a reboot ala Logan instead of infinitely extending the X 1/2/3 timeline.

I think the increasing presence of the Multiverse in the MCU is going to do that to some extent. But we'll see.

I really want to see more shows where they plan a 1 or 2 season arc and just leave it at the end.

But capitalism doesn't work that way. They want shows that they can bring back year after year.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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The multiverse is already over done to death. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 10:54:35 AM EST
I mean, seriously, every show from Star Trek to The Flash, to  Everything, Everywhere, All At Once, has been using it. It's just an overused trope now.




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Multiverse plots, yes by lm (4.00 / 1) #14 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 11:23:18 AM EST
I agree with you wholeheartedly on that. But I also don't like most multiverse plots.  Everything Everywhere All At Once was an exception for me.

But if you set the stage as "the multiverse" then you can run an Arrowverse on CW and not worry about a different Flash showing up in the Legion of Superheroes movies.

That's the point I'm trying to get at with my previous post.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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To be fully honest by lm (4.00 / 1) #15 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 11:37:20 AM EST
Multiverse, time travel, and "it's only a dream" (and it's variations including AI universes) have long been my least favorite plot devices. Every now and then someone comes along and does it really well but for the most part, they're not only overused but also almost invariably either underdeveloped or applied in a hamfisted way when they are used.

Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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Honestly I think it’s mostly a way for writers by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #22 Thu Jul 14, 2022 at 08:08:26 PM EST
to get themselves out of corners they got stuck in by not planning things out ahead of time - much as you said.

I watched the Strange New Worlds season finale today and, lo!, they’ve already introduced the “for the sake of the timeline you can’t do that” plot.

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pain pills by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 07:57:15 AM EST
long while back (2009?), a doc told me they don't really do anything for the pain, they just make you not care about it.. After hip and shoulder surgery, I took 'em for the day of and day after, then tossed them. I didn't like the loopy awful feeling in my head, and advil helped more for the pain. (and, yeah, not pooping for 4 days sucks... )

That’s definitely how I feel about CBD products. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #5 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 09:08:01 AM EST
They don’t actually relieve the pain, they just make you care less. I, also, ditched the opiates as soon as I got home after the 1st surgery in 2020, but I stuck with them longer this time mostly out of fear of the pain I had experienced in the hospital. Started cutting back on them when I realized I was forgetting to take them and then I started spacing them out further and further to see if it made a difference, then stopped altogether.

I also agree about Advil & NSAIDs - definitely my goto for achy leg joints and back pain. Unfortunately they are banned for me for at least a year; surgeon claims suppressing the inflammation with interfere with the spine healing.

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yeah, I got grief from a surgeon over ibuprofen by marvin (4.00 / 1) #6 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 11:19:45 AM EST
After getting a metal plate to hold my wrist together (tip of radius), the only prescription he gave was ridiculously overpowered, like oxy or Percocet. I took it for one day, felt nasty and spaced out, so doubled up on advil+Tylenol instead.

Tylenol 3 would have been ideal. But somehow a trace of codeine is scarier than a huge prescription for the drugs which are crazily addictive and are at the root of the opioid crisis?

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I feel your pain by xth again (4.00 / 1) #7 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 01:16:34 PM EST
(I mean the superhero pain, not the surgery pain)

The Kids are of course into them big time, and we watch Newsrockstars on YT to keep up to date with them. But only just keeping up with Newsrockstars is a chore... they literally release 10, 15 videos a week of news about the latest superhero shenanigans. I don't even know how they can keep up, we struggle just keeping up with the news. The Kids of course know it all inside out, no idea how they manage


Completely agree about superheros by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #8 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 07:28:40 PM EST
I gave up on Marvel.  I think the last movie I watched was when I turned Black Widow off midway because I was just bored and it all seemed so cookie cutter.   And yes, the original Iron Man was very refreshing at its time.

I am finding all the "superheroes but evil thing" a bit tedious on its own.  I bailed out on Invincible after a couple of episodes, and think I'm done with The Boys.   I watched the first episode of Season three but truth is I'm just tired of seeing human guts.

I think the only thing in recent memory I liked (other than WandaVision) was Loki.   That was pretty good.

I'm feeling the same about Star Wars honestly.   It went from thin gruel from Lucas to complete shovelware.   (Star Trek is much the same)
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The Boys by theboz (4.00 / 1) #9 Tue Jul 12, 2022 at 10:02:00 PM EST
I'm also burnt out on superhero things for the most part. That being said, The Boys has been watchable for me. I don't like any of the characters but I think the show is very cynical and the characters are all supposed to be unlikable scumbags. The writers are saying that in a world populated by assholes, those we look up to the most would be the worst of all. It's not The Godfather but it's better than any Marvel shows.
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The last super hero things I really enjoyed by lm (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 10:01:37 AM EST
... were the New Mutants movie released straight to streaming during the pandemic and HBO's Titans.

A few of the Disney+ efforts were enjoyable enough, especially Wandavision, but none live up to Daredevil/Jessica Jones/The Punisher from years back.

But, at least for me, the issue is more me being soured on most media, especially genres that lean towards action/scifi. This likely says more about my quantity of consumption than anything else.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
Hrmmm... I think you may have a point. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #13 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 10:57:54 AM EST
On reflection, I may be burned out on all media as well. I can't think of anything I've watched in the past year that really grabbed me. SWHTL forced me to watch enough Bridgerton that I've gotten invested in it but if you told me it was pulled from Netflix I wouldn't mourn for a second.

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A good example for me is Stranger Things by lm (4.00 / 1) #17 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 11:48:20 AM EST
My sweetie didn't remember much from the first two seasons of Stranger Things and had never watched season 3. So we watched it all from the beginning up through and including season 4.

Seasons 1 and 2 weren't as good as I remember them being. Season 3 wasn't as ridiculous as I remember it being. Season 4 was okay, but not great.

But I think that evaluation has more to do with me being saturated with that kind of plot line and character development than anything else. I'm simultaneously more jaded but also mentally set a much lower bar for what counts as acceptable quality.

My largest barrier with non-action/scifi series is that the ones I think are great (e.g. Better Call Saul) are actively disliked by my sweetie and for the most part the only time I watch television these days is time we share together so I lump those in favor of things we both like.

In the "things we both like" category are Ted Lasso and Only Murders in the Building.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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Stranger Things season 4 by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #18 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 09:22:45 PM EST
It feels almost like a chore.   I'm stuck on episode three at the moment.    I did like Umbrella Academy, though mostly for the characters, not the plot.

I'm trying to remember when I was last actually enthusiastic about something, and am drawing a blank
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Mrs. Ha and I are up to episode 7 by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #20 Thu Jul 14, 2022 at 11:01:09 AM EST
The girls of course didn't want to wait or see spoilers, so they've finished it. I think twenty_one_year_old finished it July 1st.


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I saw an article about the best summer TV by lm (2.00 / 0) #25 Wed Jul 20, 2022 at 07:27:23 AM EST
It reminded me of last year's White Lotus by mentioning that season 2 is going to drop.

Irene and I both really liked that one.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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Ah! by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #19 Thu Jul 14, 2022 at 10:34:47 AM EST
I just remembered the last show I actually enjoyed:  "Severance", on Apple TV
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I’ve been tempted by Only Murders by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #23 Thu Jul 14, 2022 at 08:11:28 PM EST
I saw the Steve Martin / Martin Short comedy special and it was hysterical, but I’m not willing to subscribe to another service. Cancelled Paramount after I finished STSNW, mostly because the app for the PS4 is so god-awful. 

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Only Murders was a lot of fun by lm (4.00 / 1) #24 Fri Jul 15, 2022 at 11:06:13 AM EST
But I totally get the "I'm not going to subscribe to yet another service" feels.

I only have Hulu because I get a discount for the Disney/Hulu/Espn bundle through Verizon.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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Give Peace a chance by kwsNI (2.00 / 0) #16 Wed Jul 13, 2022 at 11:43:46 AM EST
I really, really enjoyed Peacemaker. One of the very few superhero shows I’ve enjoyed recently. Doesn’t really tread any new ground for storytelling, but it’s well acted and highly entertaining.

I forgot about Peacemaker by lm (4.00 / 1) #21 Thu Jul 14, 2022 at 11:31:58 AM EST
Having watched what Gunn did with the character in Suicide Squad, I was going to give it a pass but after seeing so many people on the Book of Faces say "it's not what you think", I decided to give it a whirl.

It was decidedly not what I was expecting and well  worth watching.


Kindness is an act of rebellion.
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