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is linux ready for the hard drive?

By gzt (Sun Oct 27, 2013 at 09:49:01 PM EST) gzt, obama, emacs, lunix (all tags)

It seems that, overnight, my lunix installation quit working. i thought maybe the hard drive plonked out under me, but in retrospect, i was having trouble with both drives and even with flash drives. anyway, so i gave up and went to windows because i had work to do.

Windows, to its credit, Just Works. Once in Windows, both hard drives were working, which alleviated the fear that one of them died under me. Fortunately, I was able to have the stuff I was working on put into the cloud despite this problem.

Unfortunately, emacs couldn't get working in Windows. It kept crashing when trying to run R in it. Not sure what was up I had to switch to RStudio, another open source program (it has vim keybindings, but I don't use them). Anyway, it's painful, it's like punching yourself in the groin, comparatively. They force you to have 4 panes (which is fine), but I don't see why I can't have, like, two source panes, one console pane, and one "whatever else" pane. What I would typically do in emacs is have one full length for the TeX, and on the other side of the screen one for the R script the TeX calls, one for the console. However, they only let you have one (tabbed) source pane. So I just think about punching their developers in the groin.

However, there is one advantage: RStudio in Windows "Just Works", unlike emacs or Linux.

The current suggestion is that my Lunix problem is some sort of kernel update nonsense. Anyway, this suggests to me that Linux is not ready for the hard drive, much less the desktop.

I blame Obamacare.

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is linux ready for the hard drive? | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 hidden)

these days, i'll only run linux on a vm. by the mariner (4.00 / 0) #1 Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 12:05:09 AM EST

i've run into too much bullshit and wasted too much time on actual boot-to-linux systems.

: VM onna stick by BadDoggie (2.00 / 0) #2 Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 07:05:15 AM EST

Wherever I go there will be a machine with a USB port, and a €80 PNY 128GB stick can hold more than enough: bootable VM framework, a couple of environments (Win7, Lunix), data subdirectories.
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It will be a while by dark nowhere (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 02:20:41 PM EST

before Linux is a good general purpose desktop. It will dominate gaming first (pretend Valve isn't trying hard to make that happen, read: when hell blah blah.) I'm surprised to hear of an experienced user having this kind of problem with it today though, especially with harddrives.

I wish there was a reasonable way to learn emacs. I'll rejoice when I find a thorough tutorial and reference that makes no mention of the help system. My vim-fu is strong enough though, all I really want out of emacs is to have better REPL integration and an omnipresent lisp interpreter. (Rather than the non-solution "vimscript kind of sucks, let's embed python.")

See you, space cowboy.

i'm not terribly experienced by gzt (2.00 / 0) #4 Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 03:18:01 PM EST

i was also in need of too much productivity per hour to be able to spend time doing any kind of troubleshooting. i suspect when i get some leisure time at home to work on it (eg, i don't know, Wednesday? Thursday?

emacs is just good enough to do what i want - it highlights the right syntax, it compiles C at the touch of a button, it can run R and have a couple source panes and a console pane, it has good copy-paste-search-etc. but, yeah, it's hard to get the hang of.

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: oh, well carry on then by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #5 Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 07:53:14 PM EST

I sort of expected someone who can make sense of emacs to know their way around the vastly simpler linux.
The VM idea mentioned might be a good one if you can troubleshoot windows faster than linux, or if you anticipate significantly fewer problems. For me it's the other way around; I've got linux configured down more than up, so it doesn't do those terrible things like running 3 different file indexing services (one meant to populate a service that isn't even installed) that cause unpredictable catastrophic behaviour. Every OS seems to have them.

See you, space cowboy.
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I had Linux problems once by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 0) #6 Tue Oct 29, 2013 at 08:24:44 PM EST

I had used the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS">Reiser File system</a> to format my drives.

But something kept killing my hard drive partitions. I had no clue, something was killing my hard drives!

I hired a detective, and get this, Reiser is a killer. I mean he murdered his wife or something, I am absolutely serious!

This ReiserFS is no good, so I reformatted my hard drives with EXT3 instead and everything works great now because EXT3 is no killer file system.

No seriously, my Compaq PC has nothing but blue screens in Windows, but runs Lubuntu 13.10 just great as long as I don't use ResierFS and use EXT3 or higher instead.

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is linux ready for the hard drive? | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 hidden)