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Cholesterol: well over two-fitty.
Diet: calorie-rich, fat-heavy, butter even after you scream, "¡No mas!"
Disease: under control.
Stench: unbearable.


I smell bad. Sometimes even I notice it, a sort of combination of old sweat, old bar, and sour with a musty note. "Ketone" is the Seekrit Woid.

I vaguely remember posting some years ago about my foray into That Which is Atkins and by that losing a good 15-20lb rather easily (because I know my spices and compounded flavours). But even managed, if you're doing Atkins there are two things you can't escape: death breath and Pitch-like Poo, the kind you need hazmat suits and 200+psi pressure washers to sort out.

I'm not doing Atkins but I do eat a very high fat diet in order to maintain my weight. Quoth my athletics-specialist primary doc: "Yeah, your cholesterol is bumping 300, but we can ignore that as long as you're holding on to your weight."

I eat a shocking amount of fat daily. It's a constant fight to keep my weight at 70kg ±2kg. Instant hospitalisation is at 63kg, do not pass GO, do not collect $200, pack your shit and kiss the kid. That fifteen pounds may be only a 10% change, but it's life-threatening at my size of 180cm. Even the fucking ED chicks on a nearby ward start worrying and giving me advice. You know you're in trouble when an anorexic is telling you to eat.

But I am plagued by this awful stench, something that I can partially brush my teeth and scrape my tongue and shower away, but only partially. I can live with it (thanks to cans of Febreeze and auto-sensation damping); my wife and daughter cannot. She is so used to it that my child is no longer reviled by the occasionally STRONG stench, but my wife sings a different song and I don't blame her. On days I recgnise it, I'm disgusted, too. And I wouldn't want to sleep with someone who smelt like that. Hell, I don't want to sleep with someone who smells like Patchouli and I like opiates.

SO, Husi-Wan-Kenobi, what the fuck can I eat that is low protein but sure to pack on pounds and ounces and gram[me]s? I'm counting on you to give me more than "I hope you love fried eggplant/aubergine".

P.S.: some of the smell comes directly from the primary drugs (Mestinon) but that bit's easy enough to get over. It's the ketoacidosis death-breath really hurting us.

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Ketoacidosis | 20 comments (20 topical, 0 hidden)
T'ain't no good way... by Metatone (2.00 / 0) #1 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 08:55:26 AM EST
but if it isn't against the rules, then throwing in some dates (the fruit) at the end of a meal seems to help with the breath.
No idea why, just an empirical observation.

Low protein and packs on the pounds without having bulk is pretty hard.
I'm assuming that you're not up for eating masses of carbs...


Drink lots of beer? by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #2 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 11:58:57 AM EST
Plenty of calories, no protein and you're in the right country for it!

Ehm... by BadDoggie (4.00 / 1) #3 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:28:35 PM EST
Alcohol is one of the things on the Avoid list, despite the empty calories. Blame the partial pancreas.

woof.

Jesus Christ you're a tool -- Dr Thrustgood

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Didn't alcohol get him here? by infinitera (2.00 / 0) #4 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:28:37 PM EST
It might not get him out.

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They should be giving you supplements, surely by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #5 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:29:02 PM EST
Any reason this wouldn't work? Disclaimer: I have no clue what I'm talking about except for having had to eat "Food for special medical purposes".

To follow up with ambrosen's suggestion by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #6 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:33:31 PM EST
I have a lot of trouble getting enough calories to maintain my weight, particularly when I'm stressed/sad/angry. I just have no appetite, and eating becomes this horrible ordeal. I started drinking Ensure (yeah, it's supposed to be for old people, but it's easier than actually eating something). There are probably better/higher calorie options out there, too, as a supplement.
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Of limited use by BadDoggie (2.00 / 0) #14 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 03:10:36 AM EST
I have some of that stuff. It tastes like shit and the high-cal version (300kcal/200ml) costs €4 apiece. It's for the times I have so much trouble swallowing that I can't get anything down. It would take downing 10 of 'em a day -- a full two liters of that godawful crap. Not gonna happen.

woof.

Jesus Christ you're a tool -- Dr Thrustgood

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cook everything in olive oil! by infinitera (2.00 / 0) #7 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:56:14 PM EST
Also, avocados are a fatty fruit. Nuts and nut butter things have a lot of calories/fat, and while they do have protein, the ratio of protein/calories is pretty low.

Flax seeds added into other foods adds calories and fat, without a lot of bulk.

[…] a professional layabout. Which I aspire to be, but am not yet. — CheeseburgerBrown

Seeds are pretty high in protein, unfortunately by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #8 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 01:16:54 PM EST
But avocados are really really good food, and a substantial part of my food intake.

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How about corn? by theboz (2.00 / 0) #9 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 05:59:07 PM EST
Specifically, since you eat a lot of aguacate, why not warm up some corn tortillas and spread smushed avocado with salt in the middle?
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Oops -- aguacate = avocado by theboz (2.00 / 0) #10 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 06:00:28 PM EST
Sorry, I gave the name in Spanish rather than English...although I have no idea why the English word also sounds Spanish.  Anyway, I'm surprised you can get them in Germany.
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Both words are corruptions of the Nahuatl word by fluffy (2.00 / 0) #13 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 02:42:53 AM EST
Marketing. by BadDoggie (2.00 / 0) #15 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 03:13:15 AM EST
The English name used to be "alligator pear". Changing it to "avocado" got people to buy the things.

I love 'em and this year I can get 'em under €1 per (compared to €2.50 and up the past few years). I'm eating so many we have enough seeds for everyone in the Puppy's kindergarten class to have his/her own seed to germinate and plant. I'll be talking to the teachers about this next week.

woof.

Jesus Christ you're a tool -- Dr Thrustgood

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Multi-Purpose Food by Gedvondur (2.00 / 0) #11 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 07:07:28 PM EST
https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/cool-things-civil-defense-food-kit/10155

You could make smoothies with it!


That being said, I don't think you can get it anymore.

"So I will be hitting the snatch hard, I think, tonight." - gzt
Ooh Ooh! by Gedvondur (2.00 / 0) #12 Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 08:17:35 PM EST
I found it.  Plumpy'nut!

"So I will be hitting the snatch hard, I think, tonight." - gzt
Fuck them and the patent they rode in on by BadDoggie (4.00 / 1) #16 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 03:19:41 AM EST
That company can suck balls. They're (rightfully) being hammered from many sides for trying to monopolise what's basically fortified peanut butter. The stuff is also high in protein and sugar.

woof.

Jesus Christ you're a tool -- Dr Thrustgood

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Less fats, more carbs by wumpus (2.00 / 0) #17 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:51 AM EST
[Note: all of this comes from '90s era physiology texts from when I was running. No idea how obsolete] At least until ketoacidosis cuts out. From what I understand, as long as you are missing the carbs you are using a rather inefficient metabolic path (thus ketoacidosis), and thus "not packing on the kg". Crank up the carbs and you should solve both problems (no help on subsequent overweight issue).

Do they sell Halloween candy in Germany?

Wumpus

Carbs are good by BadDoggie (2.00 / 0) #18 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 10:51:28 AM EST
But they don't really pack the calories. I may be forced to live off of cheap spag & shitty packet sauces.

woof.

Jesus Christ you're a tool -- Dr Thrustgood

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Carbs by Herring (2.00 / 0) #20 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 05:40:14 PM EST
When actually riding hard, protein is not so a smart idea but carbs are needed. The best thing that works for me is about 50g of maltodextrin in 750ml of water. This doesn't taste sweet but I add a dash of something like ribena to make it palatable. I add salts for riding on a hot day but I guess that wouldn't help you. Very digestible for me even when riding on the limit but YMMV.

Glucose/sucrose/fructose based energy drinks make me feel queasy quite quickly.

Obviously I would also recommend shepherds' pie and steak & kidney pudding. But they have protein.

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Can you do vegetables cooked in lard? by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 1) #19 Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 01:18:22 PM EST
Like how they seem to usually cook vegetables in Southern cooking? It's kind of gross, but it might help as far as getting vegetables in and not being quite so stencheriffic. 

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