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By anonimouse (Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 03:11:39 AM EST) chuckles, trolling (all tags)

In memory of chuckles RIP

The BBC News site reports that one possible reason Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi is still alive is because he has access to medicines not available in the UK because they have not been through the long UK approval process.

Does anyone else find it strange that you can better health care in war torn Libya than you can on the wonderful NHS?

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Hmm by Oberon (4.00 / 1) #1 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 03:44:15 AM EST

The "be friends with a dictator" health plan. High risk in all sorts of exciting ways, but it can work ....

How now, mad spirit?

Just checking: by ambrosen (1.00 / 2) #2 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 05:49:38 AM EST

You are aware that you're the dimmest person who posts here by some distance, right?

Why post this ignorant inflammatory crap?

Citation needed by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #3 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 05:52:51 AM EST

Inflammatory maybe, but why ignorant?

According to UK doctors, he was going to be sleeping with the fishes within 3 months of his departure from UK shores; now his prognosis seems to be rather better for some reason.

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL

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: Correction by codemonkey uk (2.00 / 0) #16 Tue Aug 23, 2011 at 08:44:06 AM EST

UK politicians, not doctors.

--- Thad ---
Almost as Smart As you.
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Statistics is hard by Herring (4.00 / 1) #4 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 06:17:09 AM EST

Understanding what "median life expectancy" requires above average intelligence so don't be too hard on the poor dear.

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You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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(Comment Deleted) by anonimouse (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 06:30:04 AM EST

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Median life expectancy by anonimouse (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 06:31:59 AM EST

Means most will cop it on a bell curve based around 3 months, if the original statement was correct. Magragi is a sooper-dooper outlier at several sigma. He's the equivalent of that chain smoking heavy drinking granny you know who defies the odds and lives to 105

_{I have a degree that involved a substantial stats component.....}

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL

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Fail by Herring (4.00 / 1) #7 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 06:35:06 AM EST

PS: For the record, my chain smoking great grandmother only made it to 95

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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The original prognosis may have been correct by lm (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 08:18:36 AM EST

But a positive change in environment (e.g. freedom, presence of friends and family, honors lauded by the state) can do wonders for revitalizing a will to live.

Kindness is an act of rebellion.

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: That said, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 08:43:46 AM EST

I'm sure if he's being given the new drugs, that could be a cause, too. The complaint that maybe the NHS should fund and approve the drug isn't without merit. The insinuation that it's anything other than the usual variability across different healthcare systems in approving new treatments is unsubstantiated. And tedious. Oh, so very tedious.

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Assuming it's normally distributed data by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 08:47:41 AM EST

Which is a strange assumption.

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: Not to say completely unfeasible by Herring (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 09:10:23 AM EST

If 50% have gone by 3 months, then that says nothing about the std dev, but a normal distribution would imply that at t = 0, the mortality is > 0 in which case HOW THE FUCK DID THEY GET TO THE DOCTOR?
Anyway, saying Q at 3 months is 0.5 tells you nothing about Q at 24 months.

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods
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You're better than this, ambrosen. by Breaker (4.00 / 0) #13 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 05:22:21 PM EST

Better.

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Just struck me by Herring (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 06:01:22 PM EST

I would dispute that anonimouse is the dimmest person who posts on here.

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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Yeah, But by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #12 Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 11:32:02 AM EST

They made Mrs. Frisby's rats go all smart and shit.

Science-fiction wallah, storytelling gorilla, man wearing a hat: Cheeseburger Brown.

While I ought to be better than to give this sort by ni (4.00 / 3) #17 Tue Aug 23, 2011 at 03:36:54 PM EST

of thing attention, a brief observation may do something to convey the relative values placed by the speaker on accuracy and on media attention:
"They said he was incurable, write him off, he's only got three months to live. That was their genuine belief, the doctors who advised [Justice Secretary] Kenny MacAskill and the Scottish government. Unfortunately I don't think they were aware of these new treatments - such as abiraterone, which is transforming the prospects for patients with advanced prostate cancer. They just are living longer and longer."

Date of parole decision for Abdelbaset al-Megrahi: 10 August 2009
Date when it was announced that phase III trials of abiraterone had been successful: Sept 10, 2010.

No, I should think they probably weren't aware.

"These days it seems like sometimes dreams of Italian hyper-gonadism are all a man's got to keep him going." -- CRwM

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