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By TheophileEscargot (Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:27:38 AM EST) Reading, Watching, MLP (all tags)
Reading: "The Yellow Admiral". Watching: "Hellboy 2". Web.


What I'm Reading
Finished The Yellow Admiral by Patrick O'Brian. The 18th Aubrey/Maturin novel. Back in home waters, Aubrey faces troubles on the domestic front, with marital discord and a conflict with his Admiral over a land-enclosure bill. Worse still, the war with France looks like coming to an end, with disastrous consequences for naval officers.

I liked this one too, despite the domestic setting. Feel a little melancholy that there are only two full books remaining in the series though.

Diana on Sophie:

"I dare say you are right about frigidity and jealousy. But I believe you are wrong in calling Sophie frigid. Certainly, when her mother is by, I think she would be a poor companion for a lively, eager man-- indeed, Jack would never have got her into his bed at all if she had not run away in a ship, far from her mother's eye. And then again I have it on the best authority that Jack is no artist in these matters. He can board and carry an enemy frigate with guns roaring and drums beating in a couple of minutes; but that is no way to give a girl much pleasure. In better hands she would, I am sure, have been a very likely young woman; and oh so much happier."

What I'm Watching
Saw Hellboy 2: The Golden Army at the cinema. Pretty good: more emotionally mature than I was expecting, a bit less action but slightly more sensitive than you'd expect from a blockbuster. Nice creature design too. Worth a look.

US politics
On the Palin Pick. Seems like a reasonable choice overall. McCain's weak with the Evangelical base, so her anti-abortion and creationist-friendly policies shore him up there. She's plausibly anti-establishment, and doesn't suffer from an excessively privileged background. The lack of experience is a weakness, but that seems to be a theme of this election: Americans seem to be adopting a more European attitude towards electing leaders who haven't really run anything.

So, have to say I lol'd quite a bit at the MeFi thread, since they seem to have been instantaneously transmogrified into several hundred Rush Limbaugh clones. A woman in a prominent role!? This can only be because politically correct tokenism has ripped the job from the hands of a better-deserving white male. And of course it cripples Biden in the VP debates, since he's too chivalrous to attack a woman, and there's absolutely no way for a man to patronize, condescend, or humiliate a woman in a public meeting.

Web
Pics. London at night. Historical photo blog. Amazing bridges.

Video. Garson Hampfield, Crossword Inker. Lord of the Dancey Dance. Gromit scat. Pingu scat.

Politics. Disturbingly even Theodore Dalrymple is against Titan prisons (via). Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, Africa’s first female head of state, is doing well (MeFi).

How to claim incapacity benefit (via).

Skinner's pigeon missile pilots.

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Palin by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #1 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 04:11:44 AM EST
John McCain has attacked Barack Obama for lack of experience. He has made it the cornerstone of his campaign.

Sarah Palin has been Governor of Alaska for two years and was Mayor of a town of 6,000 people in Alaska for six years prior to that. Barack Obama was a state Senator in Illinois (district has about 300,000 people in it) for seven years and a US Senator for three. For argument's sake I'm willing to say that they have the same experience level.

John McCain says that Palin is ready to be President. He said it in words and said it by choosing her for a running mate.

Here's my issue. It's not about experience. It's about decision making ability. The very first major decision of a Presidential Nominee is who to choose for a running mate. Who that person thinks will be best to be the President and lead 300,000 million people. John McCain's first big decision is to choose someone who has similar experience to someone that he's already said doesn't have the experience to be President. I have an issue with that. I have to question McCain's ability to make decisions.

Everyone calls him a maverick, but I have to wonder if maverick is a code word for insane.




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Holy copy and paste batman! by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #2 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 04:40:54 AM EST
Obama has plenty of political experience, but it's as a Senator, state and federal, and that does go against him when running for President. People, including myself, distinguish between a Senate role, which is mostly that of a critic, and an executive role, which involves more decisiveness. McCain now has the only Governor on either ticket, even if Alaska is a bit of a free ride. This is not to devalue the Senate but different skills are useful there; you are not really leading 300 000 people, you are representing them. The biggest organisation Obama has run is the one now getting out the vote.

There is a parallel to the career of a number of opposition leaders in parliamentary systems actually; they are often lawyers who never ran anything larger than a small law partnership. Tony Blair was criticised, a number of years in, for having to learn the usefulness of eg the cabinet system on the job, and I think it's a fair one ... I believe the quote was "the seat of this government is a sofa".

The South side of London is pretty.


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A Federal System by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #3 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 06:13:41 AM EST

Like Germany and the US has more opportunities for running sizeable states with plenty of powers. The gap between a council leader in the UK and being in Govt is too huge. There's of course the devolved parliaments of Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland  in the UK but they seem to be a bit of dead end in terms of national politics.



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It's true by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 06:51:58 AM EST
I think it's one of the advantages of the federal setup actually.

Never quite took off in Oz, possibly because the states are also parliamentary so you usually have to convince a sitting federal member to give up their hard-won seat, and trigger two by-elections.

There has been some loose talk of the last government's foreign minister, Alexander Downer, becoming premier of South Australia, but I'll believe it when I see it.


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Germany's Federal System by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #9 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 08:24:58 AM EST
Is parliamentary but being the Prime Minister  (Minister-President) of a Lander does serve as springboard to national politics.  Schroder, the previous chancellor to Angela Merkel, was Minister-President of Lower Saxony and Helmut Kohl was also a previous Minister-President.

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Poking around in wiki by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #27 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:06:44 AM EST
It seems that the Bundesrat is formed from the state governments. So senior German state politicians have an easy entry point into the federal stage in a way Australia and the UK do not.

The UK could presumably add this element by adopting a convention where First Ministers are all made members of the House of Lords. You could have PMs from the Lords again without quite lack of democratic mandate in the current setup. Unless there's some rule preventing members of the devolved parliaments sitting in the Lords ...

Similarly in Australia you could add the Premiers to the Senate but it would require a constitutional amendment.


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Copy and paste by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #14 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:30:17 AM EST

Yep.  I combined discussion points into one re-post.  It was quicker than typing and I'm lazy.






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I am also l by Scrymarch (4.00 / 2) #23 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 04:00:57 PM EST



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A Senator has vaster political experience. by Tonatiuh (4.00 / 2) #15 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:02:02 PM EST
Obama had to deal with issues at national and international level as a Senator, clearly understands the trappings of power having to deal with other powers in the US and has the goodwill of most countries Bush alienated (i.e. pretty much all). I know Bush has made believe people in the US that the external world does not matter at all, but golly, we do know now how wrong he was about that.

With all due respect to Mrs Palin, but running Alaska for not even 2 years does not come remotely close. Having executive power in a low key place can't be compared with playing in the big leagues of politics in the US and internationally (at this point Obama's international tour looks very astute, since now both Republicans look parochial in comparision).


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"Low key place"? by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #17 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:09:46 PM EST
She's governor of the American state which is 2.5 miles from Russia.
That's a huge responsibility, especially in light of what's happening in Georgia.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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Yeah by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #18 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:13:37 PM EST
The invasion threat during the Cold War must have been terrifying for her.

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I think she was in Idaho at the time. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #40 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:00:50 AM EST


"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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Last time I checked .... by Tonatiuh (4.00 / 1) #21 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 03:13:42 PM EST
... US governors are not responsible for US's national defence.

Good try.


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bzzzt! by yankeehack (4.00 / 1) #22 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 03:27:39 PM EST
Um, they command national guard units for their state, which does include overseas deployments.
"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
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and yet by garlic (4.00 / 1) #32 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:03:52 PM EST
they don't seem able to keep the commander in chief from doing whatever the hell they want with them.




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They do not command deployments by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #37 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:34:03 AM EST
They command National Guard during states of emergency with in their states.  When a Guard unit is deployed it's nationalized and falls under the command of the  Pentagon.  The governor has no  authority during a deployment.




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AK Guard Eskimo Scouts by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #39 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:59:36 AM EST
They have a 24-7 Real World mission, and answer to the AK governor. You should look into it.

Not to join, obviously, unless you're an Eskimo.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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State Police by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #43 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 01:16:44 PM EST
I don't see much difference. 




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Please, please, please. by Tonatiuh (2.00 / 0) #44 Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 04:35:55 PM EST
It is Mr Bush making a mess of Irak and to a lesser degree Afghanistan, not Mrs Palin or any other governor.

If Russia invaded the US via Alaska the role of the state's governor would be minimal, if any.


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Sure, they are. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #41 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:05:49 AM EST
Not only does the AK governor have control of indigenous Army scout units, but every governor shares responsibility for maintaining the readiness of their subordinate Guard units, even when they aren't directing them in combat.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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International experience? by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #24 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 05:17:04 PM EST
He had more international experience growing up in Indonesia than in office. In office all he's done is organise some pep rallies and had a quick handshake with the people he didn't get to meet before he was the nominee. It was a worthwhile trip but I don't think it says much about his foreign policy credentials, and it certainly doesn't make McCain look parochial.

The Democrats probably will, at times, try to take this line of Obama vs Palin, but all the Republicans have to do in response is remind people it's McCain is running for president and he is in good health. Unless there's a public gaffe indicating otherwise that line probably won't run.

And if McCain, wins, and has a heart attack in Febraury 2009? My guess is she'd probably coast on goodwill for a bit and then be a fairly weak President, certainly unable to ram home any sort of conservative social agenda past a Democratic majority. Given McCain had little interest in this, no change there. She probably take over the McCain policy apparatus and probably his cabinet too, so again no change ... not sure if I see the downside from the McCain camp's perspective here, or indeed the electorate if they choose that ticket.


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The US Senate.... by Tonatiuh (2.00 / 0) #45 Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 04:38:11 PM EST
... approves international treaties.


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Or not, notoriously $ by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #46 Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 03:07:48 AM EST



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bad argument by garlic (4.00 / 1) #4 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 06:43:24 AM EST
If mccain made a mistake in choosing Palin because of her experience, then the democratic party made a mistake picking Obama because of his experience. This is not a good argument.


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That's not really the point, by ucblockhead (4.00 / 3) #6 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 07:12:45 AM EST
It is not about experience itself.  It is about campaigning on something for months and then turning around and making a major decision that entirely undercuts your argument.

The whole issue with the houses is similar.  It is not about who is richer.  It is about spending months tarring someone a rich elitist when you yourself are far richer.

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maybe, by garlic (4.00 / 1) #8 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 07:16:52 AM EST
but it would take a pretty subtle argument that says what McCain did is bad, but what the democrats did is good. Either experience is really important, or it's not. I know people are huge fans of trying to catch hypocracy or flipflopping, but I don't think that's the real issue. It's ok for people to change there minds -- we shouldn't try to say that it's not.


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Reconsideration by jimgon (4.00 / 2) #12 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:11:00 AM EST
It is okay for people to reconsider and change points of view.  I have no issue with that.  If that's the  case, then McCain can say it's no longer an issue and we all move on.  Then we can focus on what policies will be put into place.   From what  I've seen on the news today the Republicans are still trying to use the experience argument, and it's sounding particularly phoney.




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That wasn't the argument by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #10 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 09:56:59 AM EST
I'm judging the quality of the  decision.  I'm judging the decision making process.  McCain built an argument for the last few months, and the  handily discards it when it's convenient. 




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Oops by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #11 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:04:05 AM EST
That should be, "I'm not judging the quality of the decision."




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It does seem odd. by garlic (2.00 / 0) #33 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:07:13 PM EST
I don't pay attention to right wing pundents, so I don't really know what they're saying, but it sounds like other sources are saying that this was a choice made without much of a vetting, while 2 other people were being vetted. That's not necessarily a big deal -- vetting is mostly to prevent attacks, not to determine fit. It is surprising though.


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I've heard some commentary by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #38 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:38:58 AM EST
What I hear is that McCain has shown a pattern of hiring attractive women for his  campaign.  Yes, I know this is negative and  very unsupportable, but  it does fit into what I see as a pattern of questionable decisions from McCain.  Personally, I don't think the man is stable.  In 2000 I was a registered Republican (yes, truly I was) and I voted for McCain in the Primary.  I didn't know as much  about him then as I do now, but I have can't support him now primarily because I don't think  he can make serious decisions.  McCain is insane.




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questionable decisions by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #42 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:22:30 AM EST
It is certainly a questionable decision to regard Cindy McCain as an attractive woman...


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Re: tokenism by ucblockhead (4.00 / 3) #7 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 07:15:28 AM EST
So you don't think her sex had anything to do with her selection?

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Newt Gingrich by jimgon (4.00 / 2) #13 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:17:00 AM EST
I saw Newt on a show this morning and  he was asked this question.  He answered no, then proceeded to  explain why the answer was really yes. 




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Of course it had. by Tonatiuh (4.00 / 1) #16 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:08:07 PM EST
But any woman that think this lady is a Hillary Clinton would deserve the reactionary politics that the Republican pair would inflict on US women.

Bush started to touch the sidelines of some issues, a McCain's win would bee seen like a mandate to throw a bone to the religious nuts in things like abortion or science and religious education, further Talibanizing US society...




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no by dev trash (4.00 / 1) #19 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 02:27:33 PM EST
I think all VPs should be mayors of small AK towns. 

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I have no information on that by TheophileEscargot (2.00 / 0) #25 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:04:39 PM EST
But Dan Quayle only had slightly more experience than her, in an era when experience was more valued. So even if she was a similarly attractive male, I think she'd be a plausible pick.
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Perhaps by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #28 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 05:38:00 AM EST
Though at the time, no one thought Quayle was a plausible pick.

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experience of quayle by garlic (4.00 / 1) #34 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:10:26 PM EST
12 years combined in the congress and senate seems a little better than slightly more, at least at the national level.


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Los Angeles isn't a city by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #26 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:07:45 PM EST
It's a collection of suburbs forlornly in search of one...
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Not true! by ucblockhead (4.00 / 3) #29 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 05:42:24 AM EST
LA has a massive downtown!  It has a population of nearly 5000!

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Wow, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #31 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:12:48 PM EST
London's over 50% larger.

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Heh by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #36 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:31:07 PM EST
I was pulling that number entirely out of my ass.

Turns out it is 28k, which is shockingly large.

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heh. by garlic (2.00 / 0) #35 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 03:17:09 PM EST
<a href = "http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=chicago.com&sll=42.037355,-87.93753&sspn=0.00698,0.012789&ie=UTF8&ll=41.886304,-87.618746&spn=0.006997,0.012789&z=17">This</a> area in chicago in the east loop is on route for 5000 housing units.


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I've never seen Picadilly Circus so empty by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #30 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 07:57:03 AM EST
And how exactly do you take long exposures from a helicopter?

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