The better you code, the worse you communicate?

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I'm a big fan of his.. by infinitera (4.00 / 1) #1 Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 08:00:40 PM EST
History of Western Philosophy.

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Synecdoche by Kellnerin (4.00 / 2) #2 Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 09:17:45 PM EST
Mostly agree, even if Adaptation fell flat for me as well. I guess I don't need to watch a dramatization of some artiste's "I'm a hack and will never do anything good with my life" neurosis once, let alone twice. Eternal Sunshine was brilliant, though. Maybe part of it is that Kaufman needs actors who can play the humor in his material. Synecdoche was too bleak overall.

Coding vs. communicating is a bad troll. But then again I spend a lot of effort trying to optimize my output for wetware platforms.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM

Coding vs. communicating by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #3 Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 09:55:23 PM EST
Anecdotally, I've found the exact opposite. I've seen lots of coders mask incompetence through bad communication. Many coders have troubles describing their code in a clear, coherent manner because, quite simply put, they do not actually understand it.
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good code vs good coder by bobdole (4.00 / 1) #4 Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 05:14:46 AM EST
The latter is one that can communicate. The former can be written by both the good coder and the bad communicator. It is still the good coder that you would like to work with.

Very little programming to day is complete solitary work, you have to interact with other systems or even be a part of a larger system, which requires you to communicate in order to be able to create code. I am with the grand parent. Troll - or trying to be smart about something much more complex.

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I think he's trying to demonstrate by Kellnerin (4.00 / 4) #7 Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 06:05:29 PM EST
what a good coder he thinks he is.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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My opinion is by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #6 Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 01:08:36 PM EST
that the hardest part of coding is thinking up good names for things. Once you've got what something does nicely reified, then everything else follows.

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bless you by Kellnerin (4.00 / 2) #8 Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 06:07:21 PM EST
for trying to think of good names for things. From where I sit I hear people blathering on about finding the proper "noun model" but then coming up with meaningless yet overloaded terms for the stuff in the end.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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the worst is when you realized by garlic (4.00 / 2) #9 Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 07:34:22 PM EST
you've named something poorly, and it's too late to fix it.

In one of our meetings discussing our system, we were having a hard time understanding what everyone was talking about because of overloaded names for things. The SW guy came up with a good idea to just start identifying one of the hard to name parts as a kangaroo. No overlap, easily understood.


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'Too bleak overall?' by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 2) #10 Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 10:23:42 PM EST

I'm pretty sure both of you missed the point of Synecdoche. The overarching theme was not about an author, or a play, or tension or drama; it was that no moment in your life is special or unique. Everything you do is utterly pointless, and has been done countless times, and, when you think about it, this is the whole of human experience. There's nothing pretty about the notion, but it strikes me at least as being entirely accurate. If you expected it to be happy story-time, you'd be sorely disappointed (not that either of you seem to have expected that), but the film advances views that are polar opposite from the sunshine we all try to blow up each other's asses in order to avoid reality every day, and I think it did a pretty good job of it, particularly for a first-time director. Also note that the difference between Synecdoche and the other Kaufman-penned films is that Kaufman was both writer and director. From my perspective, this is what cleaned this film up for me; Kaufman didn't have someone else encouraging him to make Synecdoche more palatable to the mass public.


Bear in mind, of course, I think that 95% of the mass public are wasting oxygen that would be better consumed by rats, pigeons, or any number of other vermin.


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Heh by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #11 Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 02:11:52 AM EST
Why should anyone care that there's no point to life? The needs of the human animal are much the same as any other animal: food, water, shelter... possibly sexual and social contact with fellow animals. All of which the animal at the centre of Synecdoche had.

Making a two-hour movie complaining that there's no point to life is like making a two hour movie complaining that there are no rocket jetpacks in life. If you choose to give yourself an unfulfillable desire for something non-existent, the problem is simply your own self-indulgence.

It seemed like the sort of movie that an angsty fourteen-year-old might make.
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Theophile pretty much covered it by Kellnerin (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 06:51:28 AM EST
though I'm having trouble buying the premise that a meticulously crafted pointless dramatization of a guy meticulously crafting a pointless dramatization isn't trying to say anything about drama, and how it's made.

When I say "too bleak overall" I mean it's too one-note. Even if I grant that Kaufman's agenda is to show that life, when you take the big picture view of it, is a uniform shade of shit-brown (although are you sure that's not your agenda?), there are still local maxima and minima, and if you get close enough (which the film purported to do, down to the varying colors of shit), they become visible.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM

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Some BNP voters simply have no empathy. by Tonatiuh (4.00 / 2) #5 Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 06:25:41 AM EST
I truly believe that most BNP voters are not racist. But what is true of all is that they lack the most basic empathy for people that have more melanin on their skin.

I would like to present to them the constitution rules of the BNP and ask them to tell me (or to any other non White face) that the party is not racist.

I felt really bad yesterday, to think that there are 1 million people in the UK that can vote for a fascist party, knowing how much pain fascism caused to this country, is beyond rational understanding....