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By anonimouse (Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 06:56:36 PM EST) (all tags)
Just how much Barack Obama is laughing his ass off right now 


 I think that he'd be 11 out of 10.
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It's all thanks to Joey Barton by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #1 Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 07:55:56 PM EST
Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) admitted as much as he left the meeting Friday. Reporters asked why, after Republicans held dozens of nearly-unanimous votes to repeal Obamacare under President Obama, they were getting cold feet now that they control the levers of power.

“Sometimes you’re playing Fantasy Football and sometimes you’re in the real game,” he said. “We knew the president, if we could get a repeal bill to his desk, would almost certainly veto it. This time we knew if it got to the president’s desk it would be signed.”

OK, maybe a different Joe Barton. But seriously, he just admitted that they voted to repeal it 50 times, but actually they didn't want it repealed.

Also this: by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #2 Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:21:31 PM EST
As the prospect of a loss became more real on Friday, the frustrations of GOP lawmakers loyal to the leadership began to boil over. “I’ve been in this job eight years, and I’m wracking my brain to think of one thing our party has done that’s been something positive, that’s been something other than stopping something else from happening,” Representative Tom Rooney of Florida said in an interview. “We need to start having victories as a party. And if we can’t, then it’s hard to justify why we should be back here.”

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It's interesting by Herring (4.00 / 3) #11 Sun Mar 26, 2017 at 06:33:34 AM EST
Someone likened the Brexiters to the dog who has been chasing cars for years until one day it catches one - and then realises it has no idea how to drive. This could be applied to the GOP as well.

You can't inspire people with facts
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What makes me saddest by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #12 Sun Mar 26, 2017 at 09:55:33 AM EST
Is that in the long run, this will probably end up being a little blip in the US's history. But for the UK, in 30 years time, we'll end up about as influential as Hungary or Romania (assuming Hungary doesn't self destruct in fascism, and assuming Romania gets over the current corruption protests).

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Who can tell? by Herring (4.00 / 5) #13 Sun Mar 26, 2017 at 10:54:35 AM EST
I think the traditional British strengths in areas such as money laundering will continue for a while. FinTech could have an adverse effect on employment on the finance sector.

A lot of bollocks is talked about a resurgence in manufacturing. Back when I was working in engineering and CAD/CAM, I went around quite a few small outfits. One thing I noticed even back then (early 90s) was that almost all of the skilled guys* were in their 40s or older. A lot of them had been apprenticed in the nationalised industries - when I was working in Oxfordshire, they almost all came from BL in Oxford and Swindon and the railways works in Swindon. Also that fewer and fewer places were taking on apprentices. A proper apprenticeship takes about 6 years and in the first 3 years it's "negative productivity" - sucking up more time of the experienced guys than any value they produced.

If we want a resurgence in areas like precision engineering, then we would've had to start planning probably a decade ago.

*Yes, it pretty much entirely men.

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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the babadook is not yet your doctor by the mariner (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:35:41 PM EST


if I was Obama by clover kicker (2.00 / 0) #4 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 07:52:00 AM EST
I'd be in a remote cabin or island with no newspapers or internet at all, just a gigantic pile of 8 years worth of movies and TV shows and books to catch up on.

Pretty close to truth by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:21:59 AM EST
plus parasailing and anything else the Secret Service wouldn't let him do for eight years. I suspect he might be taking a motorcycle tour somewhere as well.

Wumpus

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like hillary, you mean? by the mariner (4.00 / 1) #14 Sun Mar 26, 2017 at 08:38:56 PM EST


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if it were her and her family by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #15 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 09:27:52 AM EST
I could only hope ..

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does anyone care what Hillary is doing now? by clover kicker (4.00 / 2) #18 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 10:39:24 AM EST
I suppose Democrat partisans devoutly wish she keeps her head down and stays out of the public eye.

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Well actually... by yankeehack (4.00 / 1) #19 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 12:44:30 PM EST
You're not wrong...

http://jezebel.com/barack-obama-is-going-to-a-south-pacific-island-to-work-1793674523
"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB

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4d chess again by gmd (2.00 / 0) #6 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:49:14 AM EST
 Not looking good for Ryan

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er, no. by wumpus (2.00 / 0) #7 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:52:09 AM EST
This is just the GOP leadership vs. reality. Obama went home and left them with the ball. Their tactics look great when playing "look at what you made me do", not so well at playing "look at what I made me do".

Wumpus

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Yeah, I don't see how this is bad for Ryan by lm (2.00 / 0) #8 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 01:41:21 PM EST
Trump was driving this train.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
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Not really. by Gedvondur (4.00 / 1) #16 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 09:41:49 AM EST
Ryan's plan.  Ryan's the so-called policy wonk who came up with this.  Ryan is also in charge of the House, and supposedly has the influence and power to whip members into line for bills like this.  Instead, the Tea Party Freedom Caucus defied him, forced things into the bill that Ryan *knew* wouldn't pass the Senate, and then lacked the balls to get members on  RECORD with the vote.

This may be a big failure for Captain Art-of-the-Deal, but Ryan came out of this far from unscathed.  As Speaker, he looks weak, ineffective and spineless.  By letting the Freedom Caucus not go on record as being the ones who broke GOPcare, he has ensured they will be running roughshod over him for the next two years.


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Yes by Phil the Canuck (4.00 / 3) #17 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 10:21:18 AM EST
Ryan has been touted as the Great Idea Man of the GOP since he was tapped as a VP candidate (or before) and his first real test in a position of power was a complete failure. 

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Exactly n/t by gmd (4.00 / 1) #20 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 02:35:52 PM EST



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I'm not sure that you're reading things right by lm (4.00 / 1) #21 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 06:44:02 PM EST
"Ryan is also in charge of the House, and supposedly has the influence and power to whip members into line for bills like this."

Well, sort of. Ryan took the job mostly because no one else wanted it, mostly because everyone with any smarts knew that the Freedom Caucus could not be controlled.

No one inside the Beltway thinks that he has any influence and power over the Freedom Caucus.

No one does.

That's the cardinal problem with being Republican right now. There's no way forward.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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It hurts the entire GOP by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #22 Mon Mar 27, 2017 at 08:38:19 PM EST
They've been campaigning for the last seven years on "repeal Obamacare" and they just failed to do it.  If they don't pass something major on healthcare, they will look like complete fools, and of course they can't do it the way they currently work.
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actually, they dodged the bullet. by the mariner (4.00 / 2) #23 Tue Mar 28, 2017 at 01:02:37 AM EST
they wanted to do something stupid that would get them killed in the next election. instead they just lose a couple news cycles.

by the time there's another election, people will be back to thinking politics is fundamentally futile, an exercise in rooting for the home team. two years closer to the end and everyone gets keep their jobs.

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I can't believe by wumpus (4.00 / 3) #24 Tue Mar 28, 2017 at 09:42:57 AM EST
that being too incompetent to execute your defective agenda is a workable plan, but it appears to be so. Dealing with the bits of the defective agenda that pass will provide enough problems for plenty to come.

Wumpus

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it's the new normal by gmd (2.00 / 0) #25 Thu Jun 15, 2017 at 09:33:07 AM EST
 "being too incompetent to execute your defective agenda" is the norm in national govt, local govt, healthcare, education and most fortune 500 corporations. We dont so much live in an idiocracy, but rather a mediocre-acy.

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And in the middle of all that by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #9 Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 05:30:04 PM EST
There's rumor that General Flynn is talking to the FBI. 




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Heard that too by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #10 Sun Mar 26, 2017 at 04:09:53 AM EST
That's how Watergate started hurting Nixon, the lesser players started squealing.

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