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By gzt (Fri Oct 13, 2017 at 05:05:52 PM EST) (all tags)
With it will go the hospitals, at least the rural ones. Prepare for the Thunderdome.


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people gotta organize. by the mariner (4.00 / 1) #1 Sat Oct 14, 2017 at 12:10:35 PM EST
they talk about gerrymandering meaning that republicans can't get kicked out, but this assumes normal political conditions. models based on these kinds of assumptions have been failing for years.

i guess the plan in the event of full-scale social meltdown must be some kind of coup or something. i don't understand why they are so confident in doing this kind of shit.

coup? by gzt (2.00 / 0) #2 Sat Oct 14, 2017 at 12:51:22 PM EST
they're in power already, why do they need a coup? they didn't need a coup in Germany - we're kind of post-chancellor and pre-Reichstag at the moment.

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Coup? by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #5 Sun Oct 15, 2017 at 11:22:13 AM EST
The coup already occurred.  You know that thing where the Republican Senate negated Obama's ability to appoint Federal judges?  That was part of it.  Then you had another Republican candidate elected to the White House with a popular vote minority and some very shaky election results in three mid-west states accompanied by Russian interference which was at least partially enabled by an American billionaire.  Now we have those Federal judgeships that were left open by Republican shenanigans being filled with Republican nominees.  The coup already happened and we live in the aftermath.  

I don't know how we go back.  Based on polling results around Trump's core support I don't see it happening without violence.  I also don't discount the impact of corporations and billionaires which are very much in line with what's happening from a "freedoms" perspective.  




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why they are so confident by gzt (4.00 / 1) #3 Sat Oct 14, 2017 at 12:53:33 PM EST
they are running a playbook that has historically worked quite well and their opponents with power aren't running the defenses that work, but rather the defenses that historically lost terribly.

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against more marginal programs by the mariner (2.00 / 0) #4 Sat Oct 14, 2017 at 10:16:18 PM EST
that affected more marginalized people. there has to be a point where you go from a flat response to sudden massive response.

the models rely on an assumption that no matter what these guys do, the response will be virtually nonexistent. maybe it's true, but i doubt it.

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Not just individual markets by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #6 Sun Oct 15, 2017 at 11:29:07 AM EST
Most people forget that ACA was also designed to help the small group market.  Small business with only a few employees who couldn't afford the insurance of a big business.  That's been blown up too.  Never mind whatever will happen in the employer supplied market with the changes they will be pushing with "associations."  The whole healthcare sector in America is screwed.  And from the perspective of a mid-level employee at Super Mega-Corporation they aren't prepared for this.  Even the big five are living in a fantasy world that they can escape the impact even though nearly half their revenue now comes from Medicaid privatization and Medicare supplemental insurance.   




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Technician - "We can't even get decent physical health care. Mental health is like witchcraft here."
Eh, as long as they don't allow poor white men by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #7 Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 03:18:53 PM EST
to own guns, I say, let's give the crackers exactly what they voted for. What're they gonna do?

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