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By gmd (Sun Jan 15, 2017 at 06:46:18 PM EST) Trump, Trump effect, Make America Great Again (all tags)
A lot of you are disappointed that Donald Trump will soon be your new president. 


 But every cloud has a silver lining.
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It's too early to tell by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #1 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 01:27:36 AM EST
I haven't got a fucking clue what he's actually going to do based on what he says.

It will be interesting to see whether his statement about making Brexit great comes true or not. In this regard, it might just be an advantage for the UK in having him president instead of Hillary who was firmly on the "taking years/ back of the queue" side of how long it would take to sort out a UK-USA trade agreement if we left the EU

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
Hmm by jump the ladder (4.00 / 3) #2 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 03:35:13 AM EST
Desperate and much smaller partner versus a person who doesn't mind welching on deals if it suits him. I'm sure it ends well for Blighty.

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As a working class victim of the "elite" by gmd (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 06:39:12 AM EST
I don't care about the outcome, I'm really enjoying watching the so called elite pretending to care about the common man though. 

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Did you have to sell the Porsche? by marvin (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 10:02:20 PM EST
Or just downgrade to a Boxster? It's pretty much equivalent to a homeless person's shopping cart for the downtrodden City types, really.

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Still got it. by gmd (4.00 / 2) #13 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 08:29:00 AM EST
But it's not the 911 GT3 RS 4.0 to which I feel entitled. 

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tfw there's a specter haunting europe by the mariner (4.00 / 3) #15 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 09:46:07 AM EST


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Caring about the common man by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #12 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 06:22:59 AM EST
seems to be about putting the blame on nasty foreigners rather upsetting the domestic tax and class set up

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But the blame for the EU's shortcomings by gmd (4.00 / 1) #14 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 08:40:59 AM EST
By definition must rest with "nasty foreigners". Indeed, that will only not be the case, once the EU's primary goal of eliminating European nation states has been achieved. The Brexit vote was simply a re-assertion of British (i.e. English) nationalism in the face of German dominance. It is pleasing to me, that people voted for Brexit knowing it would be a bumpy ride, and now our useless politicians and civil servants are having to work for a living for a change.





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NAFTA much? by marvin (4.00 / 2) #4 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 09:57:12 AM EST
Canada signed a free trade (for corporations, not plebs) deal with the US in the 1980s, mostly to the benefit of the auto industry, with US parts assembled into cars in Canada and vice versa. It was followed by NAFTA in the 90s. Carrot-top is talking about punitive duties towards Mexican cars, and there is little doubt that he will soon cast his gaze northwards.

Trade deals with the US were always weighted to one-side. Before now, other countries could maintain a fig leaf over that fact. Any deals under Trump would need to be so egregiously favourable to the US that no world leader will be able to sell it to their populace. I don't even expect the default WTO global trade rules to stand unchallenged over the next 4 years.

The British shouldn't get their hopes up. US trade will never replace your volume of trade with the EU anyways, and your economic output is dominated by London's finance industry. The Goldman Sachs team assembled by Trump will be working to move that business to NYC and Chicago, not support London in its post-Brexit decline.

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Goldman Sachs team by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #6 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 12:02:37 PM EST
To be honest, I'm pretty sure that Hillary would have hired even more from Goldman Sachs, if only due to some of the outlandish picks Trump has come up with. Hillary, of course, would certainly look more favorably on blighty (and the rest world with the exception of Russia).

Wumpus

The funny thing is that Trump will likely be the only candidate for something like 50 years that didn't depend on Goldman Sachs to be elected. Reagan might not have needed them, but they've been pretty entwined ever since. I can't see anyone else winning the primary and general without their big bucks and them proving the odds by betting on them.

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Doubtless she would have by marvin (4.00 / 2) #9 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 08:54:00 PM EST
Since that was a core Republican attack against her, there is some irony in Trump's team being so heavy in Goldman types.

Democracy suffers from such vast sums of money in the electoral system.

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Trump says by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #5 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 11:56:42 AM EST
whatever he thinks will wind up on the news. Worked in the primary, got him elected, and it doesn't look like he's ever felt the need to change a winning formula. Basically take anything he says as zero information (other than "Trump wants more attention").

Wumpus

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He's going to fuck everything up. by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #7 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 05:29:01 PM EST
He's been perfectly clear in his message that he's going to fuck everything up, and a promise to fuck things up is the one promise where he won't fuck things up in delivering it.

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On the plus side by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #8 Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 05:29:57 PM EST
I wasn't expecting to agree with gmd when he said what the silver lining was. It's definitely a silver lining.

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Quote by Oberon (2.00 / 0) #11 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 06:17:53 AM EST
It's an ill wind that butters no parsnips

(one Internet Point for anyone who gets the reference)


How now, mad spirit?
Are we sure about this one? by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #16 Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 01:29:58 PM EST
I am quite uneasy about any winds that might leave things buttered.

Chill out, snowflake.

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