Print Story Where will Americans draw the line?
Diary
By gmd (Tue Nov 12, 2013 at 06:40:55 PM EST) NSA, cameras, war on terror, surveillance, intrusion, privacy, toilets, toilet cams (all tags)
 Obviously the "war on terror" is serous business...


 But I have to wonder when Americans will draw the line at the more intrusive measures taken by our security services.
< For the ashes of his fathers | Eastern Europeans are taking our jobs! >
Where will Americans draw the line? | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 hidden) | Trackback
Americans by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #1 Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 06:32:41 AM EST
 Americans are willing to sacrifice all privacy in search of security. America is a nation that lives in fear like an elderly woman on a bus.




---------------
Technician - "We can't even get decent physical health care. Mental health is like witchcraft here."
Uhm... by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #2 Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 09:17:10 AM EST
"American women are willing to sacrifice all privacy in search of security."

FTFY.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

[ Parent ]
And why is that? by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #3 Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 04:25:39 PM EST
Genuine question.


[ Parent ]
At the risk of being accused by gmd (4.00 / 2) #4 Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 05:20:32 PM EST
of sexism (and not for the first time!) I'd say its because women are by their child-bearing nature more keen on 'security' than men are.

Women are scientifically proven to be more risk-averse than men, and more conservative.

there are probably loads of academic papers on this but I can't be bothered to look them up....



--
gmd - HuSi's second most dimwitted overprivileged user.
[ Parent ]
Gallup poll 2004: by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 10:25:36 PM EST
Agreement w/ "PATRIOT Act goes too far in restricting civil liberties": Men 32% Women 17%

Agreement w/ "PATRIOT Act does not go far enough": Men 21% Women 25%

It's just a fact that women will sell us down the river for notional security. Sorry to disturb your worldview.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

[ Parent ]
So American women are the problem when ... by lm (4.00 / 1) #7 Fri Nov 15, 2013 at 08:30:00 AM EST
... 2/3 of American men either think the PATRIOT act is just right or does not go far enough.

Gotcha.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
[ Parent ]
Yes, when 83% of American women by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Nov 15, 2013 at 08:48:26 AM EST
believe it doesn't go *too far*, yes, that's a serious problem.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

[ Parent ]
How so? by lm (4.00 / 1) #9 Fri Nov 15, 2013 at 09:28:42 PM EST
Whether 40% of women or 80% of women believe it doesn't go too far, so long as 60% of men believe it doesn't go to far, it will remain the law of the land. That the majority of women that believe it doesn't go too far is larger than the majority of men that believe it doesn't go too far is immaterial given that both a majority of men and a majority of women believe that it doesn't go too far.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
[ Parent ]
The point being is that it will by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #10 Sat Nov 16, 2013 at 12:07:22 AM EST
*remain* the law of the land as long as 83% of the majority of the voting populace thinks that the PA is just hunky-dory. That's the problem.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

[ Parent ]
woman are 83% of the voting populace? by lm (4.00 / 1) #11 Sat Nov 16, 2013 at 08:12:32 AM EST
But I repeat myself. Even if a majority of women opposed the PATRIOT act, the majority of Americans would still approve of it or not care about it unless the opposition of women to the act exceeded something around the 60% of women.

There's no point in singling out women when a majority of men also either don't care or think that the act does not go far enough.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
[ Parent ]
I wouldn't be troubled if by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #12 Sat Nov 16, 2013 at 10:36:58 PM EST
men and women had parity on this issue, but they don't and I see that as a problem with their sub-culture of fear.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

[ Parent ]
I'm not sure what you mean by 'parity' here by lm (2.00 / 0) #13 Sat Nov 16, 2013 at 11:38:59 PM EST
Sure, women support the PATRIOT act by a larger margin than men do. But that's hardly significant given that majorities of both sexes support it.

That seems to me to suggest that men and women do, in fact, have parity on the issue.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
[ Parent ]
All Americans by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #5 Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 08:05:38 PM EST
 The bravado is a symptom.






---------------
Technician - "We can't even get decent physical health care. Mental health is like witchcraft here."
[ Parent ]
Where will Americans draw the line? | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 hidden) | Trackback