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By technician (Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 05:35:59 PM EST) (all tags)
and it goes and it goes.


Sitting at Billy's like always, two pints and some vegetarian (my side) and meatitarian (his side) foods. It's been an odd, and tough week. Not work, work is work. This was a universal odd week, the sort of week you expect will show up on your permanent record, just for the odd timing, the coincidence. Out of nowhere facebook tells Sam that a friend of his from  school (college at least, high school some) died, in his sleep, of unknown causes. Later in the week, facebook mentions that a friend of mine from elementary through highschool died suddenly in the middle of a half marathon, of unknown causes. Neither of us had seen the dead men in years and years, and the facebook responses were fascinating as people told stories, spread condolences, and took comfort.

In with all that noise, we'd both already been knee deep in discussions about the nature of the universe because we're both like that, he and I. We'd come to this point, then, with death and questions. Two pints, a couple of burgers, and an hour of free time.

The place was crowded, like it gets. The jukebox there is excellent, prescient and scary good at making the most of the people around it. The Pogues "Streets of Sorrow" kicks on, and you know how the light is in that joint, and the way the beer hits, and we're talking about the end. You know, The End.

The end, as reality. Sam says, you know, I couldn't think of an answer to your question about Buddhists and suicide. If all life is suffering, why not end it? I could google the answer, yeah, but I couldn't find it in me.

Is life different with ownership of the timeline? I turn my mind over at night sometimes, looking for the answer. The world spins and burns.

Sam says, you hear these bits of advice, things like "live everyday like it's your last" and "you only live once" and that's fine and all. So think about it, as a mental exercise: what if you were going to die tomorrow. What would you do different? You'd probably not go to work or sit in traffic. OK, what if you knew you were going to die in a week? How does your behavior change? How about if you had a year? Five years? 

Twenty?

Sam says, after a few more swallows of beer and some heavy conversation, says you know what would be a cool story? You ever see that television show, The Millionaire? Black and white, you probably didn't. Anyhow, this shadowy rich guy...we never see him...picks a person out of the world and sends his assistant to give the person a check for a million bucks. The show was, what they did with that cash, and what the cash did with them. Great show. Anyhow, I have this idea, it's a good one. This shadowy guy, he somehow gets in touch with you, and you and he sit down to talk. And he's obviously wealthy as shit and powerful, like the building he's in has his name on it. And so you go to meet him, ya know? Summoned, expensive car meets you, expensive building awaits. And this guy, he sits you down and he says:

In ten years I am going to kill you. There's nothing you can do about it, I'm extremely good at this, and the people I employ have already started this process, and it is unstoppable. You won't feel a thing, and no one will know that you were murdered. Unknown Causes, we could call this story. Anyhow, the rich guy says, ten years, buddy. Guaranteed. Dead. Now, you may die of other causes between now and then, ain't nothing to do with me. But you will not live past ten years from noon today. Then he just lets you go. Nothing ambivalent, no anger, just business. Like, no reason and none offered. Unemotional. Sends you home.

And then, what do you do?

I tell Sam, it's an excellent story. We can sell that fucker to Hollywood, make a coupla', and move to Oregon to trap ermine and farm beets.

Sam says, yeah. Also, he says, I'm going to kill you in five years.

I tell him, how about next Monday instead?

We laugh. The beer goes down. We drive back to work, laughing about the possibilities.

We keep going and going, until we become what we always were.

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On the basis of this by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #1 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 06:26:35 PM EST
And that you were both sober enough to drive:

Kill Sam tomorrow.

If you fail, you've got 4 years and 364 days left to try again.




Takes all the fun out of it, though, by technician (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 06:30:11 PM EST
because then it's just another war story.

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Heh by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #4 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 06:40:56 PM EST
I was being a bit daft there.

But then again, in 5 years time if you stop posting, don't say you weren't warned!


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I think we pretend to plan by garlic (4.00 / 2) #3 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 06:35:21 PM EST
but I don't think those sorts of timespans we can plan for.

I think about the people who think they have death sentences (via cancer and shit) and then find out later that the death sentence was wrong. Bad diagnosis, no cancer, you're totally going to live. But you've been living like you thought you had 6 months to live.

so I'm going to die in 10 years. do I quit my job? and do what? I guess I could masturbate furiously for 10 years, or the equivalent pleasure seeking (although beyond not quitting my day job, I guess that's what my life is now. woot.) doesn't sound very meaningful, but i guess it'll be enjoyable.

I guess if you're going for a meaningful ending, you try to pick a problem that seems solvable, and that you might be able to apply your skills to and start working it. Getting the Green Party a local office holder or two. Ending thirst in a couple mile radius of some desert OASIS you construct from solar panels, bubble gum and twine. Taking out those motherfuckers keeping you and your peeps down (hm, that sounds like MNS's plan...) That seems pretty ok. There were those recent arrests in Florida(?) or somewhere with 80 year old militia dudes with cancer with the idea that they didn't have long to live, so might as well fight the real and TRUE fight against the black president now with some explosives or ricin or whatever they could track down. Maybe going all killer isn't the best plan.




I guess I'm a bit of a prick by theboz (4.00 / 2) #5 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 07:18:35 PM EST
If someone told me that they're going to kill me in ten years, I'd find a way to kill him first.  It may not impact my demise, but at least he'd not be there in ten years to celebrate.
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That's what I always say about you, boz, you have a good memory for random facts about pussy. -- joh3n


On Facebook a week ago.. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #6 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 07:21:05 PM EST
Guy posted "what to get Mom on her birthday?". Sunday, "RIP Mom". He's home on emergency leave from Ft Bliss this weekend...

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)



Facebook can be brutal by technician (4.00 / 1) #7 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 09:00:15 PM EST
in how it informs.

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VS2FP by ana (4.00 / 2) #8 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 09:16:14 PM EST
And I'm remembering a k5 meetup a while ago now, at which Rizzo told of a scene in a movie whose title I should recall but do not. A guy goes into a convenience store with a gun, points it at the clerk, not to rob him or anything, but just to ask, "What do you really want to do with your life, in say 10 years."

"I always wanted to be a veterinarian," says the clerk. "It's not happening."

"I'm coming back here in a year, and if you're still working here, and not going to school to be a vet, I'm going to kill you." And he walks out.

Rizzo then went around the table and asked everybody what they wanted to be doing in 10 years. 

I now know what the noise that is usually spelled "lolwhut" sounds like. --Kellnerin


Fight Club. by technician (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 09:17:38 PM EST
A damn fine part of both the book and the movie.

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Ah. by ana (4.00 / 1) #10 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 09:23:38 PM EST
I have seen that, but was so caught up resisting the core metaphor or whatever that I missed the good stuff, apparently. 

I now know what the noise that is usually spelled "lolwhut" sounds like. --Kellnerin
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as I recall by Kellnerin (4.00 / 3) #13 Sat Jun 16, 2012 at 02:42:38 PM EST
A lot of people answered with some variation of "pretty much what I'm doing now." Wait ... yup. (I wrote the first sentence of this paragraph before looking it up.)

It's almost exactly 10 years after that incident, and I both am and am not doing pretty much what I was doing then, though I'm not sure I would have foreseen the way I got here.

This reminds me of the "You inherit 5 million dollars the same day aliens land on the earth and say they're going to blow it up in 2 days. What do you do?" question from Heathers. Which in turn reminds me of all the people who missed the rapture last year, and the Dubway Days song with Alex Wong that it inspired.

I don't really have anything useful to add.

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"Plans aren't check lists, they are loose frameworks for what's going to go wrong." -- technician
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Jim Henson, eh? by ana (4.00 / 1) #14 Sat Jun 16, 2012 at 08:13:48 PM EST
That's the one. 9.5 years and counting. wow. Unsurprisingly, the pictures have succumbed to bitrot.

And, uh, yeah. The job I'm mostly not doing lately is the one I presumably said I'd be doing in 10 years. And some of the characters I was writing about then are still in my head.

And yeahthat, re: the song.

I now know what the noise that is usually spelled "lolwhut" sounds like. --Kellnerin
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as I said by Kellnerin (4.00 / 3) #15 Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 02:55:51 PM EST
in a comment on the original diary, it's as much (or more) a vocal thing than a visual thing.

Of course, ten years on we've now met many more times as well. And perhaps we could have predicted that ten years on, we'd be discussing diaries about that event, in another diary.

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"Plans aren't check lists, they are loose frameworks for what's going to go wrong." -- technician
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This should probably be it's own post... by toxicfur (4.00 / 3) #11 Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 09:44:55 PM EST
and if I remember I'll try to make it into one.

When my mom died, she was 54. At that time, my own mortality kind of hit me in the ovaries, so to speak. I realized that the odds I'll have the average lifespan is pretty close to nil. If I live to 60 -- just over 22 years from now -- I'll kind of be surprised. Maybe even a little disappointed.

It does affect how I live my life. Why quit smoking, if I'm going to die anyway, before the cigarettes could significantly impact my life? Why drink less when I'll never get to the point where I need a new liver? Why save for retirement, when I'll use the long-term care insurance I pay for before I'll need a huge chunk of money in the bank?

Twenty-two years is a long time, and I'll keep working at my job, and I'll keep trying to get stuff published that I actually want to write, and for the next couple of years, I'll make a definite decision about whether I want to have a baby. But I'm way past the half-way mark on my life, I'm certain of that. Some days, that scares me. Other days, it feels like a relief.

And what ana said - VS2FP.
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The amount of suck that you can put up with can be mind-boggling, but it only really hits you when it then ceases to suck. -- Kellnerin


Girls and Gedcoms... by atreides (4.00 / 4) #12 Sat Jun 16, 2012 at 12:19:31 AM EST
I like to think I've taken the long view on a lot of things, life included, and every time I hear someone spout some "live like there's no tomorrow" crap, I want to throttle some sense into them. It's easy to say "I could die tomorrow". It's much harder to ask "What if I don't die tomorrow?" Dr. Manhattan got it right. "Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

That's not exactly the point you were trying to make (assuming there was one), but that's what came into my head. I may have something different to say when the sun is shining and daylight is streaming in...

He sails from world to world in a flying tomb, serving gods who eat hope.


i like that. by garlic (2.00 / 0) #18 Tue Jun 19, 2012 at 06:07:26 PM EST


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is it wrong by dev trash (4.00 / 1) #16 Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 10:40:16 PM EST
That I read these with Chris in the Morning's voice?

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I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BALLS! ->clock


Not at all. by technician (2.00 / 0) #17 Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 11:17:34 PM EST


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