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By Breaker (Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 06:45:26 PM EST) (all tags)

All OK here on the SE London front.

Too busy and not enough time to argue with the deluded Europhile leftist contingent, so see the poll------------------->

Poll valid until IMM roll in March (usually Wednesday in the 3rd week of the month, or so).

Breaker's prediction - by the end of March, there will either be a knock down by Greece, an pop out by Germany, or a complete democratic fail leading to severe civil unrest by June.

Civil unrest will be put down by a pan European militant police action.

[1] If anyone can advise me how to covertly kill a tree I'd be well pleased.

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Axe work during the next late night thunderstorm by lm (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 07:35:43 PM EST
Actually, there are all sorts of ways. But which is most appropriate depends on what kind of tree it is, how old it is, and so forth.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
Sycamore by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 06:02:24 PM EST
Dying of ivy and some wet, white crusty mould with black spots.

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Is it feasible to peel off the ivy? by lm (2.00 / 0) #17 Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:13:58 AM EST
It might be able to regain health.

If it's sizable and incurable,  what Phage said, more or less. If you're able to drill into the roots without being noticed, do so and pack the holes with a commercial stump remover.

But, if the concern is that the tree might fall down, killing by such methods will increase the chances that it will fall down.

If there is any way at all to pursue the tree being commercially removed, that will be preferable if safety is the issue.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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It's not my tree. by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #19 Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 10:28:57 AM EST
The custodians of the tree will not take care of it.  The only way I can get someone who has a right to remove the tree is to accelerate the demise.  Take it from being a possible danger into a guaranteed liability.

I'm not happy about it either; I have made a lot of effort to try and get someone to care for the tree.  But the neighbours have not the inclination and the council doesn't have the money for tree maintenance in non-public areas (even though they hold the lease to the land it is a back garden, not public).  The council does however have a budget for emergency tree removal, if there is a clear threat to life or property.

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That dude in Alabama killed one with some bleach by dev trash (4.00 / 1) #2 Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 08:34:08 PM EST
I think.
Roll Tide!

tree girdle. by misslake (4.00 / 2) #3 Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 08:58:42 PM EST
either peel the bark away in a 2 - 5 cm strip horizontally all around the tree, or cut a 1 - 3 cm deep slot all around the circumference of the tree just through the bark. though make sure the edges of the bark won't touch so it won't heal.
this will kill a tree rather effectively.

but i can't imagine why you want to kill a tree.
trees are our friends, breaker.

on second thought, you shouldn't kill that poor tree.

what are the tree regulations in your municipality? in toronto you can trim branches that overhang your property to within an inch of the property line.
there is probably an arbourist who specializes in weekend or evening, or early morning secretive pruning sessions, who will carefully remove every branch, twig and leaf in a perfectly straight line along the property.
that seems to really irk neighbours, while being well within the law.
it's illegal here to cause damage or distress to trees over a certain size, whether on your property or not, likley the same over there so be careful.

A friend... by ana (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:26:56 AM EST
at a lecture on control of invasive species, says the method for killing Norway Maples that works is to wait til fall when the sap is flowing into the roots, girdle the bark, and put herbicides on the cut so it gets sucked down into the roots. Otherwise the roots send up new shoots all over the yard.

I now know what the noise that is usually spelled "lolwhut" sounds like. --Kellnerin

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I know. by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 04:26:19 PM EST
Hurts me to do it.  But at the minute the tree is very sick, not yet dying, and will continue to rain diseased branches onto my shed, and more worryingly, into my garden.

Picked up a bit last week that was big enough to cause serious injury to an adult, far less MiniBreaker.  I had to cut it into four pieces just to get it out of the garden.

The tree's not in my garden but is very close to the boundary.  There is some serious controversy with next door neighbours (4 flats own the collective garden) and the council as to who is responsible to trim it and make it safe, given that the whole trunk is not likely to fall over soon.

So no one will maintain the tree; a sycamore with a massive ivy infestation that is killing it and some sort of mould rot that kills the branches.

The only way to force someone into sorting it out before it does some horrendous damage (shed I can fix, fence I can fix, daughter unit's skull maybe not so much) is to make it an obvious and clear liability.

If you can come up with a better solution to that I'm all ears, but I'm sorry - the tree has to go.

I will plant another when it's gone though, I love trees.

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Can you reach it from the road? by lm (4.00 / 1) #18 Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 12:21:53 AM EST
If so, you could always accidentally run into it in an rented truck.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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Whatever method you choose by anonimouse (2.00 / 0) #20 Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 01:39:14 PM EST
Make sure that it topples away from you, not towards you

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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WIPO by johnny (4.00 / 2) #4 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 12:15:41 AM EST
Greece goes Iceland, sez Screw You, bankster mafia bondholders, pays dime on the dollar, leaves Euro, three years from now is all Iceland/Argentina happy, doubly so from having told banksters to go fuck themselves.

She has effectively checked out. She's an un-person of her own making. So it falls to me.--ad hoc (in the hole)
i like the cut of your jib by infinitera (4.00 / 2) #5 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:20:24 AM EST

[…] a professional layabout. Which I aspire to be, but am not yet. — CheeseburgerBrown

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their gov't has already been captured by MillMan (4.00 / 2) #6 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:32:53 AM EST
but yeah I've wondered about this too - and if it would bring out the NATO tanks.

"Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no libertarians in financial crises." -Krugman

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By whom? by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 06:06:09 PM EST
Friendly forces, or part of the collective that will see Grecian's starve just so that the bankers can be paid and The European Project can continue unabated?

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the temporary PM is from the ECB by MillMan (4.00 / 1) #15 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 07:28:00 PM EST
so, there you go.

"Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no libertarians in financial crises." -Krugman

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OTOH by MillMan (4.00 / 1) #16 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 07:39:15 PM EST
Elections are apparently coming up soon, so it's not going to require civil unrest to remove him.

"Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no libertarians in financial crises." -Krugman

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Stuff by Phage (4.00 / 1) #7 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 06:27:58 AM EST
  1. Ringbarking
  2. Drill hole below soil level, fill with Roundup.
  3. Copper nails. May take a few years though.
  4. Greece has already defaulted, the only question is by how much, and can they stay in Euro.
  5. I actually feel sorry for the Germans having to pay for the feckless mediterranean again. but then their exports are driven by a cheap Euro so not very sympathetic.
  6. Pan-Euro police action ? Pfffft. They can't even organise a conference never mind a co-ordinated police action.
It's my prediction that eventauuly we not be able to afford capitalism at this rate of population growth. Over time politics will drift further and further left as some people get left further and further behind in the race for diminishing resources. We'll all be communist by 2150.

Communist by 2050? by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 04:41:40 PM EST
You mean, those that have survived the endless homicidal purges that always accompany Communism and the oppression that is always the companion of Socialism?

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Greece as a skin job. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #9 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:51:43 AM EST
Greece will default March 20th. And they have a plan.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

So, Greece out by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #12 Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 04:41:57 PM EST
Or Germany out then.

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One problem with the second article by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #22 Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:21:33 PM EST
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Rachel Donadio says that “European leaders are set against” the idea that Greece’s credit default swaps should be triggered, on the grounds that it “could ignite a chain reaction with unpredictable and potentially catastrophic results for the world financial system”. She’s wrong about that: it couldn’t. The only thing a CDS trigger does is make sure that people who bought insurance on a Greek default get paid when Greece defaults. It would mean that the people doing the insuring lose money, of course. But anybody writing an insurance policy has to be willing to pay out on it — especially when you’re insuring a credit as risky as Greece. A CDS trigger would not be catastrophic at all, and there’s really no reason to try to avoid one.
It's very likely that the insurance companies in fact do not have the money to pay the CDOs.  This is what took down AIG in 2008.  Assuming that the insurance companies have the money is a big risk.  My opinion is, and it has been, that part of the reason the EU and US are shitting bricks is because the insurance companies can't cover the CDOs and will need government bail outs in the event of a default.  Government bailouts that will be difficult to get under the current politics.  The Germans have already said no to Greece and the US is in the middle of an election and is politically paralyzed at any rate.  I wouldn't be willing to risk the global financial system on the expectation that the insurance companies will make good on the CDOs. 

Technician - "We can't even get decent physical health care. Mental health is like witchcraft here."
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mad max 2012 by the mariner (4.00 / 2) #21 Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 04:38:58 PM EST
 euro collapses, causes global financial meltdown, gingrich and obama lose in three way election to a guy with spiked shoulder pads.

Greece Out by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #23 Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 06:30:01 AM EST
Portugal likely to follow.  Italy and Spain appear recoverable.  Ireland is getting ready to tell the ECB to fuck off, but not sure if they'll leave or stay.  France is interesting.  Germany is stable, but recently received a debt down grade based on their agreement to cover so much debt.  I think this is the make or break year.  I think a form of the Euro may stay, but I'm not sold on it.  I think we're looking at a long term return to individual currencies and a free trade zone. 

Technician - "We can't even get decent physical health care. Mental health is like witchcraft here."
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