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The Big Sleep makes no sense.

By gzt (Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 01:28:41 PM EST) gzt, org chart, boswell, liberalists, movies, polygamy (all tags)

The book barely makes sense, the movie makes none. I still like it a lot. I was reminded of this the other day. Story by Raymond Chandler, movie adaptation done in part by William Faulkner. I think it's the mostly poorly plotted film on common lists of top 100 films. It's well-written enough that you sort of think you know what's going on and don't quite notice how confusing it is - it's like mazes in dreams in Inception. The plot doesn't really matter.

Is polygamy bad for society? I'm opposed to polygamy, of course, but I don't think, in a world where gay marriage is legitimate, we can make a case against polygamy, at least not in the courts. Interestingly, polygamy is typically treated harsher in the law than bigamy, at least in America.

In other legal polygamy news, the polygamist leader got off.

My email tray notification still does not work. Grumble grumble. I just fiddled with the settings, I'll see if that works. Test: yes, it seems to work now. I got an e-mail informing me that certain stuff around the building will be closed temporarily because of $MOVIE filming. Bastards.

I read an article pointing out that the rise of "political correctness" was more a matter of the pervasive culture of therapy rather than the rise of liberalists. It's psychologists arguing for these silly words and policies, not liberalists. Granted, they're liberalists and the liberalists seem not to mind.

Still reading Boswell's journal. It seems he's finally gotten laid. Also got one of the Mornington Crescent books in the mail. Amusing, I think it would be more funny with proper oral delivery.

Ooh: PPT has an org charting tool. That's handy.

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Mornington Crescent books by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #1 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 01:38:21 PM EST

Is that a strategy guide? I always get confused playing it, perhaps because I'm more of a Poisson d'Avril player.

: seems a bit of a red herring by gzt (2.00 / 0) #2 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 03:06:59 PM EST

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1. Bigamy is the charge for indicted polygamists. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #3 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 04:03:45 PM EST

2. I'm gonna go way out on a branch of the Crazy Tree and suggest that an overwhelming majority of psychologists/sociologists/social workers/what-have-you are PAINFULLY liberal in conviction. I don't have numbers to back this up, though I'm equally sure that one of our butthurt liberal acquaintances will find something to rebut it, but we know the real deal.

In summary: you are way outta line, Mister.

"With no power comes no responsibility." ~ Kick-Ass

I said... by gzt (2.00 / 0) #4 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 04:09:00 PM EST

..."Granted, they're liberalists..."

The Model Penal Code defines bigamy as a misdemeanor and polygamy as a felony.

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But no state has adopted that distinction. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #5 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 04:58:28 PM EST

In fact, the MPC suggests the felony provision for when bigamy is committed "in purported pursuit of the right of plural marriage," which sounds like the committee wanted to fuck the Mormons a bit harder than other groups. Certainly not equal protection under the law and thereby patently unconstitutional.

If you're going to Wikiargue, at least read the entire article.

"With no power comes no responsibility." ~ Kick-Ass
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When bigamy is committed in that way... by gzt (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 05:00:29 PM EST

...then it's "polygamy".

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: Polygamy is not the crime. It's a practice. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 05:15:56 PM EST

See my other comment. To illustrate how this works, a man (A) who is polygynously married to woman (B), woman (C) and woman (D) is guilty of 3 counts of Bigamy (A-B, A-C and A-D).
"With no power comes no responsibility." ~ Kick-Ass
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Also: by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #7 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 05:03:15 PM EST

Polygamy doesn't mean "three or more" in a legal sense. It's a sociological term. Bigamy is polygamy in this case. Bigamy is also the name of the federal crime, regardless of the number of spouses.

"With no power comes no responsibility." ~ Kick-Ass
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: I know it doesn't mean 3 or more. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #8 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 05:06:30 PM EST

I, uh, read the article. Several articles in fact.

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Seem to be 2 separate issues by anonimouse (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 05:19:32 PM EST

Polygamy per se should not be a state issue. The only control should perhaps be that at every such marriage, the signed consent of all existing members is required and must be documented.

With respect to Jeffs however, there appear to be allegations concerning forced marriage and sex involving minors, which if true, the state should definitely be acting to prevent.

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL

polygamy by duxup (2.00 / 0) #11 Sun Aug 01, 2010 at 04:03:53 PM EST

Provided it is between consenting adults I don't see a problem.

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