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By Breaker (Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:24:06 AM EST) (all tags)
The death of millions is just a statistic.

Inside: Far right?  Far Left?  Who knows?



Party A
Opt in to the Working Time Directive, enforcing a reduction in working hours to an average of 35 per week
Favour indirect taxation as a means to raise Government revenue
Against EU protectionism in sourcing local ingredients for hospitals and schools
Against CAP and CFP
Campaigns for secondary strike action to be enabled
Continue and extend the tobacco ban
Provide State benefits for striking workers

Party B
Introduce a flat rate of income tax and eliminate NI contributions
Build more prisons
End mass uncontrolled immigration
Make no cuts in NHS frontline health services
Allow schools to select pupils based on their suitability for the education provided
Remove means testing for pensioners
Free Tibet
Ensure any large new wind farms are constructed offshore.
Invest in more flood and coastal defences

Party C
Renationalise railways
Reintroduction of competitive sports
Renationalise energy production
Encouragement to move to organic and low fossil fuel farming techniques
Believers in Peak Oil theory
The encouragement of worker share-ownership and profit-sharing
Make prison harsher and more austere

Now then, all of the above have been lifted[1] directly from the websites of the political parties concerned.

Which is the "far right" party (as regularly described in the mass media), A, B or C?

[1] Yeah alright, cherry picked.

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Newsflash by TheophileEscargot (2.00 / 0) #1 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:35:18 AM EST
People who vote Green mostly do so because they care about the environment. The mainstream policies are afterthoughts.

People don't vote BNP for the afterthoughts either.

Also, why the "who knows" stuff? You made it clear in your other diary that what other people call "far right" (BNP) you call centrist, what other people call "right" (Times newspaper) you call "left", everything else you call "far left". And you don't yourself call anything "far right".
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Get it right sunshine by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #2 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:49:01 AM EST
BNP - far left.

Stop making things up.  I said "BNP are so fucking leftist", which is directly at odds with your claim of "centrist".

So, A, B or C?


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So to you the political spectrum consists of by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #4 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:00:07 AM EST
Breaker, the Left, and the Far Left.

Which party depends on which policies they're serious about and which are afterthoughts.
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Yep. by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #6 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:13:59 AM EST
Although you missed out "middle left".


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meh by Merekat (4.00 / 2) #3 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:52:32 AM EST
All looks like meeja driven crowd pleasing bollocks to me.


spectrum of right to left by lm (4.00 / 3) #5 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:13:06 AM EST
It's quite possible for a political party to be far right on one issue and far left on another. Take neo-fascist parties. They tend to be far right with regards to authoritarian power structures but are often far left with regards to redistribution schemes. I'd be shocked to find any political party with a significant number of members that was consistently at the same point on the spectrum with regards to every issue.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
Oi! by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #7 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:15:03 AM EST
Your reasoned and cogent comment has no place in a Breakermatic diary!


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Tobacco & Prisons by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #8 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 11:12:10 AM EST
All three sound too authoritarian for me. I'd toss the lot of 'em out on their ears.

Which UKian party is right for me, Dr. Breaker?

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

Depends on what you want. by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 12:42:25 PM EST
In the EU or out?
High tax cradle to grave welfare state or low tax minimalist government?


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In EU; Low-tax by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 10:28:34 PM EST
Wait - let me guess: NO MATCHES FOR YUOR QWEERY

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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UKIP and LPUK by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 08:25:53 AM EST
Are both committed to a lower tax, smaller state. 

But UKIP are not a mainstream party (still no MPs but a few MEPs).  LPUK are at best, fringe.


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UKIP wants to be in the EU? by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #14 Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 03:30:21 PM EST
That are unpossible!

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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My mistake, misread your comment. by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #15 Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 04:15:07 PM EST
You are right, no pro EU party here advocates lowtax / small government.


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i'll play by 256 (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 11:17:58 PM EST
I confess to a blinding ignorance of the UK political spectrum. I don't even know if Labour and New Labour are two different parties or two different names for the same party (hell, for all I know, one of them is a football team).

That said, assuming that the things you highlighted were actually the most salient differences between the parties (which seems unlikely given your admission but, like I said, I'm playing along) it seems like (A) is the more "left wing" party and (B) the more "right wing" party with (C) being left leaning but probably trending in a different direction than that described by the standard left/right dichotomy.

That said, if I got these pamphlets and nothing else, I'd certainly be voting (A).

How'd I do?
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New Labour / Labour by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #13 Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 08:31:30 AM EST
Are the same, just they dropped clause 4 which was about workers owning the means of production IIRC.  In transforming from Labour to New Labour they became less Socialist and more free-market driven.

Party A is the Green Party
Party B is UKIP
Party C is the BNP.

So you were pretty much on the money; Greens are sometimes referred to as watermelons (green outside, red inside), BNP despite being touted as "far right" are pretty leftist, and UKIP are to the right of the supposedly right wing Tories.


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