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By blixco (Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:06:30 PM EST) (all tags)
I know there's been a lot of debate, a few friendships torn asunder, and tens of lives lost, but let us set that aside and get to the heart of the matter:

There is no one recipe for chili.  This, however, is what I start with, and constantly modify. It is based on a recipe that was originated in the 1920s in west Texas by certain relatives of mine who shall remain anonymous so as to minimize modern-day affiliation with a cur such as myself.


Ingredients for chili are the chili.  The method is stupid, and the actual serving and eating are animal simple.  The biggest debate in my neck of the woods was always beans or no beans, tomato or no tomato.  I have countless recipes for chili using everything from just four ingredients to well over a reasonable amount. I still use this basic mixture as my basis and yardstick.  I've posted chili recipes before, but this is the core, the basic stuff.

Chili is not gourmet.  It is not intended to be complex, high dollar, or at all polite.  It is a stew, ostensibly a thick cumin and red chili gravy with meat simmered in it.  The meat is normally the cheapest you can find.  Does that mean it has to be bad?  No.  The role of the meat is to add protein and fat. The flavor of the meat is not enhanced by price, it is enhanced by fat content. Texture also plays a key role.

Around here we have "chili grind" ground beef, which is a very rough grind of the heel of a chuck roast.  In the 1920s and 1930s, the chili grind had a LOT of gristle in it, giving most pots of chili (cooked typically all day) a gritty, chewy texture.  Some meat suppliers can still get that texture, but I'm not fond of it; some traditions were based on necessities that modern food availability negates. I do still use a chili grind, though, which is at least 25 percent fat, very rough ground chuck. I use 2 pounds or so.

The pot starts smoking hot, with bacon fat, lard, or other animal fat with a low melt point. If you use suet (as the original recipe calls for), you have to start it with water, rend it, then skim the surface until you have a layer of oil.

I add the ground chuck to this without any seasoning, along with one diced hot white onion.  Some people season the meat before it hits the pot.  I've done it both ways, and seasoning beforehand doesn't buy you anything.  I break the meat up with a potato masher or a large slotted wooden spoon, and cook it to medium, stirring constantly. For mouthfeel, you want large-ish chunks of meat but you don't want them crispy or mushy.  Medium here means cooked through, gray-brown, and springy. The onion may just start to carmelize. It's OK to let it brown, but don't let the onion burn.

I should mention that before the meat is fully cooked, I rapidly add garlic powder, chili powder, cumin, salt, pepper, and fine ground Mexican oregano.  My basic amounts are: 2 tsp of garlic powder (or a couple of crushed then minced garlic cloves), a teaspoon or so of oregano, a quarter cup of very hot red chili powder, and enough cumin.

That's right: enough.  There's a very personal balance there, and it is important to taste the mixture often, adjust as needed, and eat when it tastes right.  To start, use half the amount of cumin that you used for chili...so if you used a quarter cup of chili, start with an eighth cup of cumin.  Some people like cumin, some hate it.  Balance to your taste.

This paste of meat, fat, onion, chili, garlic and cumin is damn near a curry.  Think of chili as a curry gone all flat.

Now, add liquid.  Some folks use tomato sauce, some use water, some use beer, some use a mixture of tomato sauce and broth.  I use a can of chopped tomato and add water until the consistancy is slightly too thin. I then start working with the spices to sort out the flavor I want, and thicken as needed with tomato paste.  This is a sin in parts of Texas; I can't think of anything else to thicken the sauce with other than more red chili powder, and that can get ugly.  This is the time to taste, let simmer for five minutes, taste again, add spices as needed, simmer for five, taste again...and do this until it tastes right, keeping in mind that chili powder will cancel salty tastes, cumin will enhance garlic tastes, and pepper will make things bitter.

Now, if you are the type of person who uses beans in chili, add them, cooked, at this point.  The best beans for it are pintos that have been slow cooked in hamhock and allowed to sit for at least a day in the fridge.  They'll tone the chili down a lot so be prepapred to spice it back up.

Once the pot is simmering, I add a cup of diced hot New Mexico green chilis and one teaspoon of peanut butter.

Simmer for 30 minutes to eight hours (or, if you used beans, simmer for X amount of time, then add the beans at the last 30 minutes), then eat.  I normally have mine with a tortilla or with saltines.  Sometimes I'll add diced onion as a garnish.

This is the basic, the core recipe.  It is very quick, easy, cheap as hell, and requires your onw tastebuds to adjust the ingredients.  My father's secret was the peanut butter, which he accidentally gave away one time by using chunky style.  That's now a tradition....we use chunky peanut butter.  I also add a raw egg at the very last and stir it through, which adds a great deal of depth to the taste.


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Addendum: by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:09:53 PM EST

Also, if you are the sort that puts beans in chili, please sign yourself up for the Chili With Beans Pre-Execution Internment Fun-filled Summer Camp. It'll make you all easier to track.


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Now now. by blixco (4.00 / 1) #2 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:20:56 PM EST
I do sometimes like beans with my chili, especially with "alternative" chilis.  But when I think of chili, I don't think "beans."

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Honestly. . . by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #3 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:23:19 PM EST
One more "THAT'S NOT REAL CHILI" post should be just about enough to set off that aneurism I've been working on. There's a thousand different ways to make chili now. The joy of chili is that every new person that sees a recipe for chili either ads or subtracts ingredients making it their own. The beast that is chili is one that tastes good almost every time, simply because it *IS*.

Put that in your stewpot and simmer.

Unless you use mushrooms. Bleh.





You'll note by blixco (2.00 / 0) #4 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:27:56 PM EST
that I say basically the same thing, except minus the part about mushrooms.

I'm just providing the core starting point for a chili that anyone can make, then add whatever to turn into their own.

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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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Says Mr. BELL PEPPERS = NOT REAL ANYTHING by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:46:46 PM EST
Food is food. If it's good, I eat it. Don't care whether it qualifies as "real" or not.

I realize this makes me anti-food-nerd. That's probably not cool. But then again, neither am I, so it all works out.



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Bell peppers by blixco (2.00 / 0) #11 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 01:50:34 PM EST
are an abomination.

In anything.

But that's just my opinion. Something I'm pretty sure I am entitled to, since I have a foundation and a stated interest in food. My past as both consumer and preparer of various foods in both personal and professional settings, as well as someone who has a varied financial and social background, has led me to the opinion that the lowly bell pepper is a substandard thing that would have been phased out with the turnip had someone not convinced the US that bell peppers are expensive surrogates for cheaper, more plentiful, less damaging to the planet and more flavorful anaheim or poblano chilis. The artificial demand for something that has the texture, flavor, and flexibility of wood pulp comes as no surprise in our modern consumer society, driven as we are by marketing hype and some ill-figured desire to connect to an "old world" that none of us would have survived a day in. The Bell Pepper is a symptom of a problem that is much larger than food alone, but considered only as food (with no regard as to the process which delivers it, nor to the process which created the market for it in the first place) it is a horrid wretch of a product which is best prepared by badly burning with open flame, then marinating in heavy, cheap olive oil and finally stuffed, indelicately, with something that has actual flavor.  The very, very, very best thing that can be said about a bell pepper besides its complete lack of caloric joy is, it has a lot of fiber.  So does this box here. Both do not belong in chili, in my opinion.

I don't know that what you think or don't think is good qualifies you as an anti-food-nerd, or as an anti-anything. You do not seek to know food. My father, a former chef, does not seek to know computers. Does this make him an anti-computer-nerd? If it works, he says, then it is good enough for him. If it doesn't work, it sucks.  Now: define works?  And how well? And doing what?  And for whom?  And you'll begin to see the vast and complex world that is Things You Do Not Know.

In other words, if the subject and comments aren't to your liking, simply click the "back" arrow on your browser and begin anew in some other location. Alternately, stay, and prepare yourself for the opinions and nonsensical attitudes of others regarding things they are passionate about for reasons you deride or scoff at.  It's a curse of modern living, to be constantly reminded that you aren't going to teach anyone anything, learn anything new, or be seduced by whatever opinion is offered unless it agrees with your own. This is why movie critics, food critics, and critics in general are often listed as the least liked sorts of people in society. But we're all critics, are we not?

Thus: bell peppers don't belong in chili. Now, is that statement a fact, or is it something I use to encourage further analysis of a topic that I find myself both interested and proficient in?  I assume that what I (and a couple of million regional folks) know as "chili," a regional dish in many disconnected regions, is as unique as the people.  Thus, in my region, chili with bell pepper is to chili what hamburger helper is to a Honda.  And because my region is a sort of authority in the dish (it being a dish brought to the region as chile con carne, and modified to the current standard...and also the state food of Texas), I feel it is my duty as a purveyor of information about food *and* information about Texas food to chime in when someone makes a dish that looks like, but isn't actually, a dish that I was raised making and eating. It piques my interest to know that someone may accidentally believe that their beef and cumin stew is chili.

In short: I like my traditions like I like my chili: free of bell pepper, based in truth and flexible enough to weather respectful change.  For other chili, see other chilis.


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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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You know, I was just fucking around. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #20 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 05:49:06 PM EST
But seriously? Stuff it.

I understand bell peppers aren't your thing, but you seem to have some sort of deal where anybody that enjoys them for any reason has something seriously fucking wrong with them. Some people accept that not everything labeled "pepper" has to spicy.



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Stuff this. by blixco (2.00 / 0) #21 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 06:32:08 PM EST
That entire response was a lot of fun to write.

I don't think anything about the people who eat bell peppers.  I dislike the recipes that call for them. Everything else is conjecture.

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I would like a great ... by me0w (4.00 / 2) #5 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:43:01 PM EST
Vegetarian chili recipe.

Also, no black olives. They give me hives ... not to be confused with the HIV.


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Vegetarian "chili" by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 12:55:47 PM EST
Substitute beans, several different varieties worth, for the meat. Increase the tomatoes.

That's about the only way I can think of to have something that approaches the consistency of a chili.

Or you can cheat, by using something like Boca crumbles. Although simmering them for more than a few minutes leaves them with the consistency and taste of pencil erasers...

Really, I've tried various vegetarian chilis, and would rather go without. Do a curry, or a mol`e with lentils and mushrooms. But chili may be a bit too basic to be easily vegetarianised.

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I've been thinking ... by R343L (4.00 / 1) #8 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 01:02:19 PM EST
About trying to do cinci chilli which if you see Bob Abooey's recipe is basically ground beef with a bunch of spices. But, I'm not really eating beef right now (or most meat most of the time). So I've been thinking I might try tempeh. Or something. We'll see.

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Skyline, which does a really poor chili by lm (4.00 / 1) #16 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 04:32:42 PM EST
... does do a very nice dish where they add all their Cincinnati style spices to ground black beans. It tastes more chili-ish to me than most Cincinnati style chilis.

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TVP can work by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #9 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 01:13:20 PM EST
The texture is okay and it absorbs the taste of whatever it's in.
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I've had one good veggie chili by marvin (4.00 / 1) #10 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 01:28:59 PM EST
Potluck lunch at a past workplace, one guy brought in vegetarian chili made with Yves fake ground beef.

The chili had beans (gasp) and tomatoes, but was really tasty. I thought I had the recipe somewhere, but I don't know where it is.

Best chili I ever had was made with bear meat, which my wife improvised without writing down any notes. That chili remains in my memory as an unattainable yardstick by which all lesser chilis are judged.

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Found the veggie chili recipe by marvin (4.00 / 1) #14 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 04:01:33 PM EST
In an archived inbox on the home PC. This is from a former co-worker, who was also a chemist. Us chemists fail rather badly at humour, I am embarrassed to say. It was good enough that he was asked to send the recipe out to the entire office.

Vegi Chili

Ingredients

Makes enough to fill a crock pot a little too full to drive with safely.

1 19 oz can red kidney beans, drained
1 19 oz can black beans, drained
1 19 oz can chick peas, drained
1 19 oz can romano beans, drained
1 1/2  packages Yves Mexican Ground Tofu
3 28 oz cans canned tomatos
2 small (not sure what size exactly) cans tomato paste, unspiced
2 jalepeno peppers, sliced
1 med onion, diced
1 large anaheim pepper, sliced
3-4 cloves garlic, either pressed or smashed and finely chopped

spice to taste, approximately:

2 tbsp chili pepper
1 tsp cayenne pepper
1 tsp ground cumin
1 tsp paprika
1 tsp pepper
1/2 tsp oregano
1/2 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp onion powder
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1/2 tsp salt

(Note to Darren: Although "salt" is really a class of compounds rather than a specific material, this recipe calls for kitchen-grade sodium chloride.  I will not be held responsible for the attempted use of calcium picrate, potassium cyanide or any other explosive, toxic or otherwise
harmful salts.)

Cooking instructions

1)      Throw ingredients together.

1a)     In a crock pot set to low.

2)      Stir after a couple hours, taste and "respice"? to taste. Depending on your crock pot, will be edible in approximately 4 hours, but longer is better (within reason).

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Warning - need huge crock-pot by marvin (2.00 / 0) #15 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 04:21:11 PM EST
I recall that the lid was floating in the chili the last time I saw this made. If you don't have a monstrous crock-pot, you might want to halve the recipe, or at least compare your crock-pot volume to the total volume of the ingredients (which will be a pain, as the recipe uses some archaic units of measure). You could also mix it in a bigger container and cook one half at a time, I guess.

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Rough estimate, 2 gallons liquid equivalent. by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #22 Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 02:36:37 AM EST
Looks yummy though.

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(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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I've got one! by gpig (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 01:55:44 PM EST
Will post shortly, in its own story to increase the controversy.
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No controversy, by blixco (2.00 / 0) #13 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 03:25:58 PM EST
vegetarian chili is good stuff.

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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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we have one. by clock (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 03:21:30 AM EST
it is amazing.  it isn't much like chili.  but it's amazing.  um...stacky should post it later.  she knows these things.


I agree with clock entirely --Kellnerin

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WHAT? by dev trash (4.00 / 2) #17 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 04:42:42 PM EST
No elbow macaroni?>????

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH by blixco (4.00 / 1) #18 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 04:49:51 PM EST


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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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our chili is usually a bit different by infinitera (4.00 / 1) #19 Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 05:36:37 PM EST
Black beans
Ground pork (I don't know why, but I like this the most in chili; seasoned with spike beforehand)
Mushrooms
Onions
Garlic
Diced tomatoes + tomato paste

The cheap as hell part is appealing, but it's also very tasty when tuned to individual taste (as above)!

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