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By chuckles (Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 06:51:33 AM EST) (all tags)


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Perhaps by Phage (2.00 / 0) #1 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:08:23 AM EST
1)sickle-cell anaemia would suggest not.
2)The DNA basis of morality has been well explored. This is not surprising
  1. Auditors refuse to sign off on EU accounts.
  2. West Nile fever also rising in US
  3. Mt Attali - Bah.


Morality in primates by Herring (4.00 / 1) #2 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:30:09 AM EST
I thought this had long been acknowledged. If a member of a troop of primates behaves in a selfish or bastard way then they can be attacked/driven out of the group by other members. Rather than being given a knighthood for "services to the financial services industry".

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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Sickle-cell would suggest what? Why? -nt by chuckles (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:55:55 AM EST


"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin [...] would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities"
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<full metal jacket> by greyshade (2.00 / 0) #8 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 10:36:12 AM EST
Thank god for the sickle cell</full metal jacket>

"The other part of the fun is nibbling on them when they get off work." -vorheesleatherface
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Sickle cell by dn (4.00 / 1) #9 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 12:32:46 PM EST
If you count the rate at which homozygous sickle cell disease kills people, it should be disappearing at a rate that can be measured over a few generations. Yet it is known to have persisted for many generations, so the heterozygous disease must confer a strong survival advantage.

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I agree that heterozygous carriers have by chuckles (4.00 / 1) #12 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 01:39:28 PM EST
a survival advantage in areas where malaria is endemic. I'm trying to understand Phage's comment. If he is saying that the existence of sickle-cell contradicts recent human evolution, I don't understand why.

"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin [...] would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities"
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Sorry - Not clear enough by Phage (2.00 / 0) #15 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 10:31:23 PM EST
I was postulating that Sickle Cell confers an advantage, however not a perfect one due to the side-effects. So an adaption in process.

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This is getting rediculous. -nt by chuckles (2.00 / 0) #6 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 09:58:36 AM EST


"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin [...] would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities"
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One more for you... by dmg (2.00 / 0) #7 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 10:35:25 AM EST
"Anti Semitism" on the rise... 
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Um by Driusan (2.00 / 0) #10 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 12:58:35 PM EST
I total agree: the beard drove him to murder them?

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I suppose by chuckles (2.00 / 0) #11 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 01:25:39 PM EST
... portraying the killer accurately might give people ideas. Better to make them think a more mainstream white guy did it. It may not be "factual", but it speaks to a higher truth about white male oppression.

"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin [...] would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities"
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Vive le ADQ! by Driusan (2.00 / 0) #13 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 01:43:05 PM EST
Truly, when Mario resigned, we lost our way.

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Vive le Montréal libre.
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Gould was once respectable? by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #14 Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 03:51:56 PM EST
The thing about monkeys finds spite:
researchers discovered that the animals strongly objected if they perceived others were being rewarded more than themselves for the same task. Some even sulked or refused to take part any further.

Though if you think about it, spite doesn't work without the expectation of fairness.

The "roots of morality" they mention seem to be things I read about over a decade ago, in books that were old at the time. The article doesn't really go into the experiments though.

See you, space cowboy.

Some of the experiments are interesting by lm (2.00 / 0) #18 Fri Feb 20, 2009 at 04:10:32 AM EST
I used one of them, recent at the time, in a paper I wrote in 2004 or 2005. IIRC, it involved rewarding some monkeys with grapes and others with cucumbers. Some of the monkeys went so far as to throw the cucumbers in the face of the researchers when they found out it wasn't a grape.

If you're interested, I can take five minutes to dig up the paper to snag the reference.


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Cicero, The Republic
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How so? -nt by chuckles (2.00 / 0) #17 Wed Feb 18, 2009 at 05:27:09 AM EST


"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin [...] would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities"
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