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By CheeseburgerBrown (Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:05:37 PM EST) (all tags)

I am now officially in the market for a Jolly Roger.

My step-father, who has a fair shake of experiencing brokering excellent deals, found for my family a sailboat that had been abandoned by its previous owners because they were in over their heads with fees owed to the marina. The marina just wanted the damn thing gone ASAP and so listed the vessel at the bargain price of five grand.

He offered them five hundred, instead.

To make a long story short: the marina accepted his offer, and he gifted the boat to me and littlestar because he wants our children to have the experiences that I did as a kid -- working together with your siblings and parents to maintain and crew a sailboat. We are now the proud and very excited owners of a 1978 C&C 24.

The vessel is in excellent condition, requiring only cosmetic fixes (sanding and varnishing the wood fixtures, re-painting the hull). It comes complete with safety netting around the deck to avoid spilling children into the sea, and also a motor, mooring accessories, a cockpit cover for foul weather, and a bevy of cool electronic gear (I've never had a depth finder before!). The previous owners were symphonic musicians, and they integrated what appears to be a high-quality multi-speaker system into the cabin.

Inside it sleeps four and features a (cold) running-water sink and a (not very private) toilet. Refrigeration and basic climate controls will have to be added, as well as a larger septic tank so we can go longer between pumpings. The cushions could benefit from a reupholstering, and the forward hatch has a small crack in the glass (which we plan to replace with a solar-powered fan, anyway).

This ranks up there among the nicest and luckiest things that have ever happened to me and mine, and we're deeply indebted to my step-father for swinging this deal on our behalf. We've started sussing out the local marinas to see which we can afford, and next spring we'll haul the boat up to the Old Schoolhouse's neck of the woods and get her a slip on Lake Simcoe (at 3,200 lbs. plus the steel cradle, we'll likely need to rent something for hauling her, I reckon).

What should we name our boat?

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Miss Guided by StackyMcRacky (4.00 / 1) #1 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:11:58 PM EST

that's what my aunt named her boat. i find it apropos of boats.

I Am Against... by CheeseburgerBrown

(4.00 / 1) #8 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:41:49 PM EST

...names that seem clever the first time you read them, and then seem less so every time thereafter (à la The B Sharps). I include in this puns, jokes about divorce, and references to the expense of boating.

I'm thinking something classical...Neptunian, mayhaps, or a nod to Homer.

Too pretentious? Or not pretentious enough?

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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rhododactylis by ana

(4.00 / 3) #12 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:46:15 PM EST

Nothing more homeric than that.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin
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That May Be Just Pretentious Enough! by CheeseburgerBrown

(4.00 / 1) #16 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:49:42 PM EST

Although, wouldn't people be confused about whether it were a reference to the Titanesse or to the plant?

(Well, maybe not "people in general" but...well...someone.)

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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It's the rosy-fingered dawn by ana

(4.00 / 2) #18 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:51:19 PM EST

which figures so many times in the Odyssey.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin
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: You Know Who Else Was A Goddess of Dawn? by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #21 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:53:51 PM EST

Aurora. And just look how she ended up -- as nothing but the capital of all the fifty Spacer worlds, shown up by a dirty, short-lived Earthman and his walking sex appliance.

Slippery slope, slippery slope...

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Also... by ana

(2.00 / 0) #20 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:53:29 PM EST

Wikipedia informs me that s/is/os is appropriate.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin
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not pretentious enough! by StackyMcRacky (4.00 / 4) #22 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:55:47 PM EST

when naming an item, there is no such thing as too pretentious!

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Alice by codemonkey uk (4.00 / 1) #23 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:58:23 PM EST

In reference to the poem "A Boat beneath a Sunny Sky" by Lewis Carroll.

--- Thad ---
Growing a mustache for charity.
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Little Star Catcher by wiredog

(4.00 / 6) #2 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:31:07 PM EST

Earth First!
_{(We can strip mine the rest later.)}

: Well, It Has The Virtue of Not Being Punny... by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #11 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:45:46 PM EST

...Plus, it would get me points with the missus. A solid suggestion.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Congratulations by notafurry (4.00 / 1) #3 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:31:11 PM EST

C&C 24's are good boats. Check the deck to make sure it's not soft - if it is, it can be fixed, but it's a project.

#husi is currently discussing the need for a HuSi burgee.

: Inspected Her On Saturday by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:43:43 PM EST

She's been thoroughly inspected, and the assessment is that she's been very well taken care of. Most of the damage we have to deal with is purely a result of the boat sitting untended for three seasons, and that's it.

C&C makes boats that last, as long as the owners aren't totally neglectful of upkeep. This one seems to have weathered rather well. Solid deck, dry bilge.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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This Way Up by Herring

(4.00 / 2) #4 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:31:59 PM EST

(One of the more droll boat names I have seen was on the Isle of Wight where, on the stern of this thing was "Mad Disease of Cowes")

: That's Chuckle-Worthy, To Be Sure. by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #10 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:44:45 PM EST

But see #8 for my thoughts on funny boat names...

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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had to read 3 times by sasquatchan (4.00 / 4) #5 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:32:11 PM EST

before I realized step-father, not father in law..

Was wondering what kinda of freaky bizarro world I woke up to, for a minute..

: "It's a Trap!" by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #13 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:46:49 PM EST

Indeed, it was my mother's new husband, not littlestar's dad. Though Old Oak is very excited for us, as well. As long as we can keep him from "helping" too much, everything should be fine.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Cheeseburger in Simcoe? by FlightTest (4.00 / 1) #6 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:35:46 PM EST

To avoid parrot lawsuits.

: I'd Take On Jimmy Buffet. by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:47:36 PM EST

As long as the case were decided by Judge Judy.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Damn, that's nice by Gedvondur

(4.00 / 1) #7 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:40:16 PM EST

Well done!

As for a name...I have no clue. This is why my wife pick's the pet's names.

Gedvondur

"...I almost puked like a pregnant StackyMcRacky." --MillMan

: Whole Family Has Input... by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #17 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:50:23 PM EST

...but I have veto.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Daphne by Merekat

(4.00 / 2) #15 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:48:10 PM EST

I have no idea why.

I Like 'Persephone' But... by CheeseburgerBrown

(4.00 / 1) #19 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:51:28 PM EST

...that's too much Beachcombers love, even for me.

Oh yeah...plus we already have a dog named that.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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: Wow by kwsNI (4.00 / 1) #43 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:40:11 PM EST

Just saw in today's email one of my coworkers was welcoming his new granddaughter named Persephone (goes by Pepper) Wynn.
Twice in a day seems more than coincidence.

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Minerva by R343L

(4.00 / 1) #24 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:05:05 PM EST

But that could just be because you've expressed a desire for something classical and I happen to be reading a book in which the most prominent ship is named "Minerva" ...

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot

Name by jayhawk88 (4.00 / 8) #25 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:13:57 PM EST

SS More Powerful That Superman, Batman, Spiderman, and the Incredible Hulk Put Together

Naval tradition. by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 5) #26 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:33:44 PM EST

Nothing less than "HMS Sodomy" is appropriate.

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/* You are not expected to understand this. */

Does That Mean... by CheeseburgerBrown

(2.00 / 0) #30 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:50:34 PM EST

...that Littlestar gets to ride me with one of them double-headed dildo thingies?

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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that's HM*C*S Sodomy by misslake (4.00 / 2) #64 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 05:59:04 PM EST

for canadians.

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: Darn Tootin' by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #66 Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:15:06 AM EST

Is we can't be nationalistic in our anal innuendoes, then truly Sir John A. Macdonald was burned at the stake for nothing.
I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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WIPO by dmg (4.00 / 1) #27 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:44:27 PM EST

Renaming a boat is not something to be done lightly...
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How to deal with trolls..

Um, Thanks For The Tip. by CheeseburgerBrown

(2.00 / 0) #28 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:49:14 PM EST

Later, after performing said ritual, I will burn a witch, inoculate my children with water, deny the roundness of the Earth, throw salt over my shoulder and look for my horoscope in the offal of a goat.

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Sailors are a superstitious bunch. I'm skeptical by dmg (2.00 / 0) #31 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:53:39 PM EST

But there are more things in heaven and earth etc etc etc, better to play it safe than live to regret it...
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I Disagree, For The Block! by CheeseburgerBrown

(2.00 / 0) #33 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 03:00:01 PM EST

I would prefer to live to regret it. I say: bring it on, spirits of mischief! I dare the gremlins! I taunt the pixies!

And I will never get my comeuppance! Never!

No comeuppance!

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Personally by dmg (2.00 / 0) #39 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:07:20 PM EST

I'd rather play it safe. After all, it's not like I would lose out on anything by following a tradition that obviously worked for generations of seamen.
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changing owners by iGrrrl (4.00 / 1) #44 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:58:42 PM EST

Renaming a boat when changing owners requires nothing more than peeling off the old letters and putting on new ones.

"I don't have time for martial law, I have to get to the gym!" zarathus
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Speaking as a skeptic atheist... by dmg (2.00 / 0) #48 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 08:22:11 PM EST

I realise that some people have a very 'rational' outlook. I like to think I have too, however, I've had a few personal experiences that make me very doubtful of the current scientific paradigm, and as such, if I bought a boat, I wouldn't rename it.

However, since the belief affects the outcome - it probably doesn't matter if you rename your boat provided you don't beleive it matters.

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Scientists are superstitious as all hell by iGrrrl (4.00 / 1) #52 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 06:40:45 AM EST

You should see the shrines that get built around the thermal cycler machines used for PCR...

But, that said, the tradition I was raised in that a change in owners is the best time to change a boat's name.

"I don't have time for martial law, I have to get to the gym!" zarathus
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Yep by notafurry (4.00 / 1) #61 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 01:34:01 PM EST

I've never heard that you shouldn't change a boat's name when a new owner purchases her. Changing her name WITHOUT a change in owner, on the other hand, is risking the wrath of the gods.

Which probably goes back to the caution and deliberation thing. If you can't choose a name with enough care and deliberation to be wiling to stick with it, how likely are you to stick to a regular maintenance schedule?

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Hence the denaming by motty

(4.00 / 1) #65 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 06:13:18 PM EST

Ok, so it all seems a bit arbitrary, this business of carefully removing all trace of the old name before the new one is introduced. But I bet there are a lot of essential maintenance tasks that also seem arbitrary and are not.

Also, this business of pouring good champagne into the sea has especial symbolic value for pleasure boats.

Plus the denaming / renaming ceremony thing looks like a great excuse for a party.

Not seeing a downside.

I amd itn ecaptiaghle of drinking sthis d dar - Dr T
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: All those points are practical by notafurry (2.00 / 0) #68 Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:54:15 AM EST

The party - well, enough said, really.
You got the maintenance / denaming thing right on the head, plus scouring the boat to find and remove all aspects of the old name means you have to really get to know the boat - and that's something any good sailor should do. I know where every through-hull is, every compartment, where water can be trapped and where wiring runs. It takes a while to learn it all for any boat, but the denaming process is a great start and adds a purpose to the search that helps keep it from becoming mind-numbing.
As for the good champagne into the sea... boats are expensive. Not as expensive as everyone thinks they are - it's not a cheap hobby, but not out of reach for any middle class family, or even working class families that are willing to make it a priority in their lives. But when you're spending money on your boat, it pays to spend the money and get the good gear. That means different things for different gear, and it doesn't always mean the most expensive option (in fact, it rarely does) but it does pay to get to the good stuff. So that starts with the naming - are you going to offer cheap shit just because it's cheaper? The gods won't be happy... and so you reinforce the notion that quality is worthwhile.

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Interesting to compare with this one by motty

(4.00 / 2) #41 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:19:16 PM EST

Vigor's Interdenominational Boat Denaming Ceremony

I amd itn ecaptiaghle of drinking sthis d dar - Dr T
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: Nothing to lose by following tradition... by dmg (2.00 / 0) #47 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 08:12:22 PM EST

it's not so much being superstitious as being v-e-r-y careful. It's an essential part of good seamanship.

Precisely.

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Wedding Guest by 256 (2.00 / 0) #29 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:49:32 PM EST

-nt-
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_{I don't think anyone's ever really died from smoking. --ni}

Argo (n/t) by Metatone

(2.00 / 0) #32 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:54:38 PM EST

: Well, it was cheap [n/t] by Herring (2.00 / 0) #34 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 03:24:49 PM EST

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Titanic (nt) by ucblockhead

(2.00 / 0) #35 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 03:25:45 PM EST

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[ucblockhead is] useless and subhuman

if he picks that name by aphrael

(2.00 / 0) #36 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 03:27:10 PM EST

i'll chip in for a solar-powered speaker system rigged to play the love song from titanic endlessly.
If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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: That's Cruel. [nt] by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 2) #59 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 09:27:07 AM EST

I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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"Boat" by duxup (2.00 / 0) #37 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 04:19:11 PM EST

n/t

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: For the tender (if there is one) by Herring (4.00 / 5) #58 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:24:51 AM EST

I Rowboat.

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My brother by garlic (4.00 / 1) #38 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 04:47:02 PM EST

a former and current member of the US Navy, and a regular sailor is anti-jolly rogers. Apparently he's sensative about joking about killing merchant marines for booty.

Suck it

Also by dmg (2.00 / 0) #40 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:10:48 PM EST

The Jolly Roger has masonic/illuminati/templar connotations too.
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Jolly Rogers should be taken seriously by marvin (4.00 / 2) #46 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 07:59:34 PM EST

If people wish to fly the Jolly Roger on their wee little boats, they shouldn't go crying to the police when my mates and I board them, shoot the occupants and steal the vessel. If we're in a good mood, we might settle for making them walk the plant, and just pillage the contents.

Next time I see a wakeboard boat flying a Jolly Roger and blaring music you can hear a mile away, I have half a mind to give it a blast of grapeshot from my twelve pound cannon.

As for the name, Soliloquy.

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don't make terrorist jokes at an airport by gzt (2.00 / 0) #60 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 09:48:21 AM EST

don't make pirate jokes at sea.

I'm no nautical man, but it does annoy me how pirates have gotten some sort of cachet lately, how they're all cool and everything now. Pirates aren't cool. They are villains.

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Even if they prevent global warming? by notafurry (2.00 / 0) #62 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 01:41:40 PM EST

I don't fly a jolly roger myself, but this whole issue is just stupid. They're not "glorifying pirates", they're using the terms of pirates - buccaneer, pirate, renegade, etc. - to emphasize the separation between their mundane lives and their time on their boats.

Do you bitch and moan about weekend bikers glorifying biker gang violence by wearing leathers?

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wearing leather, no by garlic (2.00 / 0) #67 Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:22:16 AM EST

wearing gang symbols, sure. I'll also bitch about the people who think it's ok to wear pointed white sheets on halloween.

Suck it
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: Bad choice by notafurry (2.00 / 0) #69 Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:58:52 AM EST

For much the same reason in both your examples.
Non-gang members wearing gang symbols weakens their power. The point of the gang symbol to the gang is to foster a sense of identity and isolation from society while creating fear in the rest of that society. The more the symbols are taken and used by non-gang members, the more that purpose is weakened and defeated.
Similarly, dressing as a Klansman for Halloween does not glorify the KKK, hate crimes, or racism. Far from it, it's an opportunity to mock the KKK and turn what is still in some areas a symbol of fear into a joke.
In other words - lighten up, man. It's just a little music and we ain't hurtin' your lawn.

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I don't know what to call it by Driusan (4.00 / 1) #42 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 05:22:55 PM EST

Maybe Heisenberg

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Vive le Québec libre.

Carpe Ventum by iGrrrl (4.00 / 3) #45 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 06:04:03 PM EST

Seizing the wind is better than just seizing the day. Anyone can seize a day. That said, I like Little Star Gazer, too.

And congratulations! Much fun to be had!

We've raised our kids with summers on Ibis, the 36-foot Mariner ketch. Our T-shirts and tender have the ibis hieroglyph on them. I made a stencil. We wanted a seabird name, and that one worked for us, and the symbol for Thoth, god of knowledge and wisdom, worked for a quartet of scientist-owners.

"I don't have time for martial law, I have to get to the gym!" zarathus

I don't have a name for you. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 6) #49 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 08:34:29 PM EST

I *do* know who should model for the nude figurehead.

It was an unholy union of text and pulped wood that the Ancients used to distribute their blogs.

Not. Enough. Sevens!!!!!!! [n/t] by clock (4.00 / 5) #54 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 06:55:03 AM EST

_{I agree with clock entirely --Kellnerin}

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OK, enough, I'll do it. [n/t] by Herring

(4.00 / 7) #55 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 07:05:18 AM EST

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: EYE BLEACH AT THE READY, CAP'N. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #57 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:22:56 AM EST

It was an unholy union of text and pulped wood that the Ancients used to distribute their blogs.
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HMCS Money Pit -nt- by clover kicker (4.00 / 5) #50 Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 08:44:32 PM EST

Name: by Bob Abooey (4.00 / 4) #51 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 04:38:07 AM EST

A Three Hour Tour

Warmest regards,
--Your best pal Bob

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New Oak by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #53 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 06:42:12 AM EST

...

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL

Rocinante [nt] by debacle (4.00 / 2) #56 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 07:59:17 AM EST

IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRLES THOROWNF MONEY ART SUOCIDE GIRLS STRIPPER HPW CAN YPUS :OSE?!?!?!?(elcevisides).

Boat name by brokkr (2.00 / 0) #63 Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 04:31:38 PM EST

The Mary Celeste.
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