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By georgeha (Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:04:43 AM EST) HHR, beer, school (all tags)
unless you like old draft dodgers who can't shoot straight.

Plus, to Cleveland and back on in an HHR. Von Braun, our Honor's student, Seabreeze,  and less in this very brief diary.

Poll: Favorite Female exec?


I'm thinking picking Palin was mostly a good choice, she may get some HRC partisans, she upholds McCain's maverick image, and she's not Huckneyman. On the other hand, she's just as experienced as Obama, and has a good chance of becoming President.

I'm still recovering from my trip to Cleveland. I rented a nice HHR and my coworker and I drove down Monday, and spent many hours at the loud, smelly print shop. The company is the biggest in their narrow marketing niche, I found it interesting. I won a coin toss and got to drive back Wednesday afternoon, 5 hour of the Dead kept me focused and moving. I never ran into Bob Abooey, though the print shop was in a rough neighborhood, perhaps he was one of the bums looking for change.

I had three good beers, a Leinie's Summer Wheat, a Great Lakes Moondoggie, and a Great Lakes Dortmunder. 

I read half a book about Von Braun, it was thick, but I got past the interesting stuff in Nazi Germany. He should be the patron saint of Slashdot, at the time in Germany he was amoral and only interested in rockets. I never got to his conversion, maybe I'll take it out again.

Seven year old has been back to school since Wednesday, twelve year old starts the Wednesday after Labor Day, but already got her class schedule, she's taking Latin and Honor's courses. She's only in one or two classes with newspaper_girl, but has a different girl from her school in homeroom. Apparently the open house was very disorganized, no surprise.

Last weekend we did Seabreeze, due to scheduling difficulties it coincided with $corp day, and we ended up at the picnic table adjacent to my boss. We were too busy with our respective kids to talk much. Last Sunday twelve year old finally got to go to the $Porsche's lake cottage, she had wanted to all summer but again, schedules were conflicting.
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Eh what? by TypographicalError (2.00 / 0) #1 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:13:56 AM EST
<i>she's just as experienced as Obama</i>

Really?


They each have about 2 years in a prominent by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:22:47 AM EST
office. McCain will have a hard time wielding the brush of inexperience.



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I'll take a US Senator over an Alaskan Governer by miker2 (4.00 / 1) #4 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:31:48 AM EST



Ah, sociopathy. How warm, how comforting, thy sweet embrace. - MNS
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She at least by yankeehack (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:52:59 AM EST
has executive experience and is the head of the state National Guard.  Obama doesn't have that. 

"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
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In recent prez elections by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:54:37 AM EST
gubners have beat senators hands down, IIRC. Gubner is much closer/analogous to prez than senator.


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well yeah by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:56:40 AM EST
governor = executive experience running state governent, senator is at best a policy wonk and/or heads an important committee

"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
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So, just to be argumentitive by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #54 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 12:13:39 PM EST
In what way does a freshman senator have more executive experience than a governor?

Hell, for that matter - to really play devil's advocate - we've had at least two or three governors recently who walked into the job cold, with almost no political experience at all, and they didn't do too badly.

Hell, you could even argue that a weak, insecure president would help swing the pendulum back towards the legislature and away from the "cult of personality" that's been building since Reagan was president.


Thought for the day: Some people are like slinkies - Not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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Obama was in the state senate... by theboz (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:04:16 AM EST
...while she as a TV sports anchor.  Obama's federal experience is only a couple of years, but that's not the limit of his political career.

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True by barooo (2.00 / 0) #45 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 07:26:14 AM EST
But pre-prominence, she was part-time mayor of a town of 6000, obama was a state senator for what, 12 years, in a district with like 130,000 people. 

man, i need a beefy taco now.
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Oh I think Obama has more experience by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #46 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 07:47:52 AM EST
but inexperience was one of the biggest weapons in McCain's camp, and he threw it away.



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NO he didn't by barooo (2.00 / 0) #47 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:25:29 AM EST
He was talking about executive experience, of which Obama has none.  Neither does McCain, but he was a POW.

man, i need a beefy taco now.
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Palin brings the conservatives aboard. by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:47 AM EST
They've been pretty 'meh' about Sen. McCain, but they'll be excited about Gov. Palin.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
Anti-gay, anti-abortion by jimgon (4.00 / 1) #32 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:40:42 PM EST
Yep, that about  sums it up.




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I can sympathesize with the second by georgeha (2.50 / 2) #36 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 04:35:32 AM EST
but not the first.



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I'm puzzled by anonimouse (2.00 / 0) #51 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 08:11:24 AM EST
So is McCain if you read the website....

"John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench. However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion. "

I don't particularly like abortion, but support it fully until someone can demonstrates that an escape route from pregnancy and bringing up an unwanted child is not needed.

I can't find anything on the site about gays, but I do note that there isn't a "Gays for McCain" or a "Carpet Munchers for McCain" coalition, so I presume he doesn't have much gay/lesbian support.



Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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Look for Log Cabin Republicans by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #52 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 08:17:16 AM EST
gays who support Republicans.

Marriage is the biggest issue, there's a slew of rights Mrs. Ha and I got for filling out a form at City Hall that gays and lesbians can only partially get after lots of legal issues.

There are also many discriminatory issues that gays and lesbian face that others don't.



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My Dad by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:49:06 AM EST
is in love with Palin. I just watched the speech with him and my mom I think this was the first time, ever, I ever saw him slackmouthed over a woman.



"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
She's attractive and sporty by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #7 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:51:40 AM EST
and fertile too. I wonder is she makes good pies, or salmon cakes, or moose pie.



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I suspect the moose by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:53:52 AM EST
she hunts and is a member of the NRA.

"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
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And now, *I'm* in love. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #14 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:05:09 AM EST
For alternate definitions of "in love". 
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An attractive woman who hunts? WTF? by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:34:26 AM EST
Just kidding, I have cousins that I would find attractive if they weren't kinfolk who were killing deer at 12.



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Fertile, but bad Down's Syndrome eggs. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:27:19 AM EST
 HOWEVER, LOOK WHO'S REGISTERING TO VOTE REPUBLICAN THIS YEAR!!!


 

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I don't know if you saw Obama's speech last night by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:59:36 AM EST
but I dunno, the guy didn't hit a home run there.

He was <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92RMQE80&show_article=1"> no Bill Clinton</a> let's say.



"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
No, but Lulu is seeing visions of Logan by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:02:49 AM EST
and Spinelli is all beat up and hallucinating in the hospital.

I'm still favoring Obama on the issues, and people advocating ID in the classroom make me cringe.




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Wow. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #22 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:02:40 AM EST
I really didn't see a GH reference spinning out of that comment. Mrs. NFB says the Jackal is scheduled for contract termination. That sucks, cause he's awesome.

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We're all about the Soapnet by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:12:51 AM EST
GH is Mrs. Ha's favorite 10-11 show.

They can't get rid of The Jackal, who else gets the geek demographics? I like Jason, but I identify with Spinelli.



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Jason's pretty smooth. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #29 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:39:51 AM EST
But the addition of Spinelli made Jason about twelve thousand times cooler. That team up is just perfect. Ruining that is not a good idea.

So, of course they'll ruin it.



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Clinton's speeches never wowed me. by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #21 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:51:25 AM EST
LoL by All Things Considered (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:05:55 AM EST
Let me guess - that guy works for FOX?

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oddly... by ana (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:28:36 AM EST
vpilf.com was registered Augst 8, 2008.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin

Going for luck by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:48:35 AM EST
Had a chance with either party.

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Four more years! by theboz (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:08:23 AM EST
McCain is very Cheney-like, just with a worse temper (as Pat Buchanan says, McCain makes Cheney look like Mother Theresa.)  Palin has the inexperience of Bush, combined with ties to the oil industry as well as an investigation against her for firing someone who refused her request to fire her ex-brother in law.  It seems that the Republicans really want to provide us with four more years of disasters and death, just with different faces.

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Palin. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #24 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:06:42 AM EST
I image.googled her immediately upon hearing the news and went all silly upon seeing all the pictures of her. Those glasses are pure evil. In the best possible way.

Still don't know enough about her to know if she's a good VP choice. But she passes the "I'd hit it" test. And hey, isn't that REALLY what matters?



Her profile by All Things Considered (4.00 / 1) #26 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:13:53 AM EST
I found her profile, she seems okay.

Favorite color: Blue
Turn ons: Long walks on the beach, guys who watch Lifetime channel, puppy dogs
Turn offs: Guys who smell bad, guys who talk loud, 4 cylider cars
Favorite Movie: 40 Year old Virgin
Favorite Book: Valley of the Dolls

I did find it amusing that she called McCain "gramps" by accident after her speech.

WIPO by TurboThy (4.00 / 1) #27 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:20:18 AM EST
Mara Carfagna
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Sommerhus til salg, første række til Kattegat.
Let's hear it for the Minstress by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #28 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:23:01 AM EST
of fellatio.



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Leinie's Summer Wheat by jayhawk88 (2.00 / 0) #30 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:45:15 AM EST
I've got a couple of buddies that are hooked on that stuff. Is it just me or does it taste like blueberry pancake batter, but in a good way?


Most Leinies underwhelms me by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #31 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:30:41 PM EST
but the summer wheat was good, in a drink a few pints down quick sort of way.



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Flip Flop by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #33 Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:49:16 PM EST

McCain has been attacking Obama for a lack of experience.  So his first big decision as a potential President  is what?  To choose someone with a lack  of experience to be next in line if he's elected.  It's a good thing he's already a Republican because he's certainly a hypocrite.
 






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Dunno by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #34 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 03:53:14 AM EST
The VP doesn't do much traditionally, the prime ministerial role of Cheney and Gore have been exceptions to the rule. She's not the main candidate, she's the emergency backup, has executive experience, plus she gets a few years to train on the job at the heart of the federal executive. If they finesse it, they can even imply the Democrats got it a bit backwards with their young / old combo, you do know the President is the main job right guys ...

Plus she got to where she is today by attacking corruption in her own party. If she wasn't a scientifically illiterate oil-soaked hooligan I'd totally consider giving her my non-existent vote.


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Here's the problem by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #35 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 04:02:04 AM EST
John McCain has attacked Barack Obama for lack of experience. He has made it the cornerstone of his campaign.

Sarah Palin has been Governor of Alaska for two years and was Mayor of a town of 6,000 people in Alaska for six years prior to that. Barack Obama was a state Senator in Illinois (district has about 300,000 people in it) for seven years and a US Senator for three. For argument's sake I'm willing to say that they have the same experience level.

John McCain says that Palin is ready to be President. He said it in words and said it by choosing her for a running mate.

So on one side of his mouth Obama doesn't have experience and from the other Palin does.

I have to question John McCain's ability to make important decisions.  Obama is  being voted on by the general public, and he used his decision ability to choose Joe Biden.  Unarguably Biden is experienced and qualified.  John McCain chooses someone with the same experience has Obama who has already said is inexperienced.  I have serious questions about McCain's ability to make decisions.




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Not the same jobs. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #43 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:37:57 PM EST
You, of all people here, should know that.

If you want a valid comparison, discuss the mayor of NYC's qualifications over hers.
Don't conflate apples and oranges.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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You're right it's not the same by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #44 Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 05:46:56 AM EST
I believe Obama has a better experience base than she does.  I'm willing to accept that being a mayor for six years of a town with a population of 5,400 people and two years as a governor of a state of 650,000 has less experience than someone who has had to work in state Senate for seven years and the US Senate for three. 

The agrument that  Palin has more experience because she has been governor for two years is specious.  The argument that she has executive experience because she was mayor of 5,400 people is ridiculous. 

The experience debate is  dead.   It's not about  experience it's about McCain's ability to make an argument before the American people and make a decision based  on that argument.  This is now a question about McCain's ability to  make decisions.  I don't think he can.

I honestly have started to believe that John McCain is insane.  Maverick is obviously a code word for nuts.






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Has Obama led any committees? by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #48 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:27:55 AM EST
I think you'd have to back to his Law Review days to find an era where he had to tell subordinates what to do.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

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Heh by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #49 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 06:39:18 AM EST
Actually it occurs to me that one advantage of the big circus that is the US presidental campaigning (more than two damn years of this) is that it gives a lot of management/leadership experience to candidates - it is part of what equips them for office.

Assuming you don't just let your daddy's people handle it, that is.


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Telling subordinates what to do by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #50 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 07:48:17 AM EST
No, I think you only have to go back to the time that he led the campaign that beat the Clinton machine

Regardless, debating whether Palin or Obama has more experience is like arguing about who is the biggest badass in munchkinland.  It's a silly question.  All we can say is that John McCain clearly doesn't think real experience is necessary to be president.

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Consider also by ad hoc (2.00 / 0) #37 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 05:29:37 AM EST
that John McCain is 73 years old, the oldest ever to be elected to a first term presidency. He has a history of cancer and other medical problems. The likelihood of McCain's VP becoming president is high, relatively speaking. Therefore, his choice of VP is more important that Obama's choice since the likelihood of a President Palin is considerably higher than the likelihood of a President Biden.

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I like the Rove quote about Kaine by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #38 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 05:35:06 AM EST
dissing his small city experience.



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It's a fair point by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #39 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 06:47:57 AM EST
And it's going to keep coming up. People have suggested he should commit to a single term ... not sure that this would do the trick though, given the two-term cachet ...


The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo

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A Four Year Presidency by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #40 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 08:30:46 AM EST
Is effectively a 3 year one due to the effect of lame duckery as everyone waits for the next President.

I always felt a single, longer term might be better like 6 years to fit in with the biannual federal elections.

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I think by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #41 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 09:17:59 AM EST
They didn't want it to be in sync with the senate elections.  The founders went to great lengths to keep things out of sync.  I actually think it is good that there isn't a complete makeover of the government every election.  It improves continuity.

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The Founders by jimgon (4.00 / 3) #42 Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 10:26:40 AM EST
The Founders went to a great deal  of trouble to create a government where things are difficult to get done.   By stagering elections the way they are it's very difficult for a particular mood to sweep in a particular party.  It takes successive elections to  build a strong majority.   The US Government is designed to be deliberative and slow to act.  Unfortunately in the 20th Century that helped lead to the development of the imperial Presidency.




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WIPO by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #53 Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:02:41 AM EST
Ilona Staller

Pics not used, since most NSFW


Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
Agreed. by CountSpatula (2.00 / 0) #55 Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 05:51:04 PM EST
She's a hottie.


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