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By georgeha (Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 06:54:30 AM EST) rambling, Smithsonian, Nazis (all tags)
and back.

Plus Lufwaffe over America, Hot Pursuit, YARIASC, Why Marines Fight, ripped off by Stephenson, Avatar series finale, and less.

Poll: Favorite Avatar character?

I'm still recovering from our quick trip to and from NoVa, including a side trip into DC. It took about 8 hours, including a stop for lunch, and it was a relatively easy ride, there wasn't much traffic, until we hit Loudoun county on evening rush hour.

Our friends are renting a million dollar house, which would probably be a $300,00 house in Rochester. It was big, with four bedrooms, four baths, and a home theater, but somewhat flimsily constructed, the doors didn't always shut, and it didn't have the presence a plaster and lathe house has. It was also part of a planned community with a home owner's association, which I found kind of creepy and Stepford like. They have rules about the type of lawn bags you can use, and they sponsored lots of community events. On the other hand, that sort of social pressure makes the moms at the pool MILFalicious.

In Yet Another Rochester is a Small City, the AFs are good friends with a developer I work with. It's not that odd, the set of middle class families with young kids living in the south east is pretty small.

While down there, I got in one movie, AF_dad likes John Cusack, so we watched Hot Pursuit, a lightweight action comedy from 1987, in which a prep school boy who had to skip a hot vacation with his girlfriend and her family due to failing a chemistry test attempts to catch up with them when his professor changes his grade. I still found the lead actress (Wendy Gazelle) cute, her outfits weren't too egregiously 80's, plus she's very limber. Hot Pursuit is also noted for the first onscreen pairing of Jerry and Ben Stiller. AF_dad also had a copy of the first Star Wars, where Han shoots first. It would have been awesome in the home theatre, but we didn't get to it.

In other media news, the whole family watched the Avatar series finale, I haven't seen all the third season episodes, but I didn't want to wait. Thumbs up, and like Star Wars and Vader, you can argue the series is really about the evolution of Zuko, with Aang just being a convenient Dues Ex Machina. Vote in my poll.

Twelve year old and I went to DC Saturday morning via the Metro at the Vienna stop, and saw most of the big memorials, including the World War II and Roosevelt ones, which were new to me. It was almost like having newspaper_girl and Porsche_girl with us, she kept texting them and sending them pictures, while they texted back. We had a hot dog lunch (perhaps her first street dog), and eventually met up with everyone else on the way to the National Museum of the American Indian. It's hard to represent thousands of years of history in a four story building, the presentation was a little shallow, though we never got to the fourth floor. The cafeteria was interesting as they mainly offered Native American derived recipes, with a nod to the kids with chicken nuggets and french fries. Mrs. Ha and I had a tamal with squash and beans, and some sort of quinoa salad, and then a refershing watermelon, tomato and dill salad. In book news, I bought a book for my mom with several mentions of our alleged ancestor.

In other book news, I feel ripped off by Stephenson, I bought King of the Vagabonds in paperback, only to relize I already owned it in hardcover as part of Quicksilver, the confusion between books and volumes confused me. I guess I should find volume 2 of the Baroque cycle.

In other other book news, I also finished Why Marines Fight, a series of anecdotes by Marines, and compiled by a Marine. It was interesting reading, Brady is open about his political bias, and it made me want to learn more about the Korean war.

In other, other, other book news, I also finished Luftwaffe over America, which is mostly about the Nazi bureaucracy's attempt to design an airplane that could bomb New York City from occupied France. The end gets a little wacky, talking about the superbomb the Nazis tested around Ohrdruf, and the potential in the flying winged Hortens. There's lot of wacky stuff if you google "Ohrdruf bomb". I suppose if the Nazis had more time and resources, they could have bombed New York.

In a future book news section of a future diary, I will talk about all the cool books I garbage picked Tuesday night, stay tuned!

My parents are taking the kids camping this weekend, and I'm not recovering from a bee sting, so it should be fun. We may see my friend's band tonight, may do the Park Ave fest, and garage sales are a certainty.

< Thank you, mother. | I might get a $2 cup of coffee >
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Hmm by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #1 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:33:02 AM EST
Not sure that a a German strategic bombing force that could hit NY would be a war winning stategy. The US has plenty of space to move industry. And strategic bombing takes a long time as shown by the allied air offensive over Germany.

Would have been better to concentated on bombing Russian industry in the first place and building up a fleet.

One theory was knocking the UK out of the war by georgeha (4.00 / 1) #2 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:40:20 AM EST
The Virus House says the Nazis had found a way to enrich uranium and were close to having a enhanced dirty bomb that would fit in a V-2. Something that did a nuclear fizzle to get 10-100 tons of TNT equivalence and long term radiation, the theory was a few hundred of them on London might have been enough.

They might have been able to do something similar to NYC, pointless terror bombing.

It's hard to say what the truth was, Ohrdruf reports were classified for 100 years, there's a rumor the Luftwaffe had a rebellion rather than bomb with some oxygen sucking coal dust bomb that could devastate cities, soon enough you're into flying saucers and Nazis bases in Antarctica.

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flying saucers and Nazis bases in Antarctica by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #3 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:45:13 AM EST
Sounds like  a good title for a Discovery or History cannel show :)

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You could start with Nick Cooks The Hunt by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:49:26 AM EST
for Zero Point, lots of flying saucer research under the Nazis, which leads to time travel and the B-2 being powered by Nazi research.

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nazi gliders by garlic (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:52:02 AM EST
in the museum you missed by dulles are wings, with no vertical stabilizers.

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AF_dad hasn't even been there by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:17:00 AM EST
Uzder-Hazy, or whatever. Maybe next time he and I can go.

Sound like the Horten ones, flying wings with jet engines.

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Games by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:58:46 AM EST
Back in the early 90s I used to love playing this LucasArts flight simulator called "Secret Weapons of the Luftwafe". That was one of the planes you got to fly (or shoot down).
[ucblockhead is] useless and subhuman
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I think has those too by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:02:29 PM EST
they had some great ideas, but thankfully insufficient time and resources to implement them.

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Just goes to show by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #18 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:13:52 PM EST
Decent ideas and competent implementation beat great ideas without follow-through every time.
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Bombers by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 08:47:25 AM EST
It'd have made more sense to use it to bomb the Russian industry beyond the Urals, but I suppose by the time this project happened, it was too late.
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They also speculate if the Nazis had by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 08:59:58 AM EST
gotten past the Urals, they would have had the resources and time to perfect their long range bombers. Come 1944, the only hope for success was some insane wonder weapon which would make the Allies sue for peace.

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if the Nazis had more time and resources... by dmg (2.00 / 0) #24 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:58:26 PM EST
I'm no expert on the jetstream, but if the Nazis had put their minds to it, something like this launched from France might have worked...

dmg - HuSi's most dimwitted overprivileged user.
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No, apparently by Clipper Ship (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:56:26 AM EST
this is.


Destroy All Planets

Hot damn, Mr Ha by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 08:03:45 AM EST
I missed you in DC last weekend. K and I went to visit an old friend of his. Stayed at the Mandarin Oriental and hit the Air&Space museum on Saturday.
"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
We walked by it about 2 in the afternoon on the by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 08:09:40 AM EST
mall side, and then 5:30 on the street side. Did you see a party of 4 adults and 4 girls, ranging from 12 to 2?

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So the question is... by yankeehack (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:14:23 AM EST
did you see a Hot MILF with two guys getting out of a cab around 5.30?
"...she dares to indulge in the secret sport. You can't be a MILF with the F, at least in part because the M is predicated upon it."-CBB
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Because you were standing right to the left of her by debacle (4.00 / 1) #12 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:02:50 AM EST


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Nope, I don't recall that by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:17:21 AM EST

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damn by dev trash (2.00 / 0) #21 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:04:44 PM EST
I just love confidence.

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Just for the record... by atreides (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:29:37 AM EST have read My Tank Is Fight!, right?

He sails from world to world in a flying tomb, serving gods who eat hope.

Not yet, but I'll keep my eye out for it by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #27 Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 04:06:57 AM EST

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I was impressed that they actually by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:33:00 PM EST
brought Avatar to an end instead of dragging it out forever, like kids cartoons often do.

On another note: I tried to google Wendy Gazelle because I don't remember her, but every link takes me to pix of Sandra Bullock in "The Net".

Has anybody seen my clue? I know I had it when I came in here.

I know, I was expecting a few more years by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #26 Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 04:03:37 AM EST
seven year old is upset, though, she wants more Aang stories.

I think Gazelle must have been in the Net, too.

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bee sting? by dev trash (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:03:54 PM EST
Why was it um down there?

No, it was on my middle toe by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #25 Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 04:00:02 AM EST
I'm somewhat allergic, so I had a huge welt, didn't feel like walking, and didn't feel like doing much of anything that weekend.

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Because the blitz was so successful... by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #22 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:28:39 PM EST
As far as I know, the material cost of the Blitz was higher on the Germans than the British (and most of that sunken into civilian buildings). There is also said to have been a review of strategic bombing made after WW2 that said that convential bombing was pretty pointless (it tends to do little more than increase enemy morale).

If they really wanted to bomb the US, they could have sent some bombs to Japan and let them send it. Of course, I don't think they found out that they even landed until the US population at large heard about it (the 80's, I think). The diference here is that the Japanese balloons worked.

Personally I equate (strategic) bombing with terrorism. It doesn't advance your agenda with your enemy at all, but is still popular in pretending effectiveness for home politics.


My view by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #23 Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:09:58 PM EST
The Germans in 1940 lacked the heavy bombers, the tactics and technology to properly strategic bomb the UK. They only had twin engined medium bombers and were only accurate in day time and had no real escort fighters.

The Brits and the yanks took until 1944 to perfect their strategic bomber offensive and it was by that time no longer needed as a war winning strategy as Germany was losing the war conventionally anyway.

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