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By toxicfur (Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 06:45:42 AM EST) (all tags)
I can never think of a title, so "Hello" seems to be the default. Later, of course, I'm going to look through my diaries and wonder wtf I was thinking, not giving entries descriptive titles. Kind of like how I used the same title for several different conference presentations (the papers were actually different, to some degree or another, but you wouldn't know that from looking at my CV). Basically, I'm a lazy idiot.

Unrelated stuff inside, plus an Ask Husi.



I've been going out for drinks a lot recently. Makes a change from staying in for drinks, I suppose. Wednesday, we had softball practice, followed by beer at a nearby bar. The place was packed, and I was starting to get cranky that I couldn't get food until I could find an actual legitimate place to sit. Just hovering in the vicinity of the bar wasn't good enough for them to serve me food. Makes sense, but I was hungry.

Last night, I went out with iGrrrl, co-workers and a previous co-worker. I had a fantastic time, and it was really, really good to see my previous office-mate. She's in a much more corporate environment now, and I think she appreciates more the silliness and strangeness of our office.

Tonight, I'm going to stay home and cook for myself. I get really tired of restaurant food after just a couple of days. It's the one thing I don't much like about vacationing in B&Bs or hotels. When I was a kid, we camped and cooked on our campstove or grill, and we always had at least one meal of charred hotdogs and marshmallows. It was cheaper and tastier than eating out every meal.


Today, I went outside in the daylight without sunglasses. I think the eye infection is almost 100% better.

I walked the dogs to the groomer this morning. I may have talked about this before, but the cool thing about this groomer is that he sets up a gate in his shop and gives the dogs the freedom to wander around, play with other dogs, or whatever. They get their baths and pedicures and such and then they get to play again (no dryers or quick in-and-out, let's get as many through as possible attitudes). It makes it much more relaxing for the dogs, I think.

When we got to the shop, we had to wait a couple of minutes for the guy to come to open up. As soon as Rusti, the Jack Russell, saw Joe, the owner, she started wiggling all over, wagging her tail and trying to go to him. Rocky was less than thrilled about being left, especially for a bath. The difference in the two dogs' attitudes and personalities is just amazing.


I just picked up the dogs and they're tired out and happy and they smell of doggie perfume. They apparently had a blast, playing and enjoying the place. The guys were laughing about Rusti howling at the fire truck that went by.
I just heard from my brother the cop that he's being promoted to detective. Hooray for him! No more being a street cop, wearing a uniform and getting bitten by recalcitrant perps.
Ask HuSi:

I'm learning as I get older that I like some foods I swore I'd never like when I was a kid. Collard greens, for instance, are delicious, as are turnips when cooked properly. I'll never like green peas as a side dish, but they're fine in stews and stir-fries and such. What I'm interested in next is liver. My mom never made beef liver, as far as I can recall, but she loved fried chicken livers. I absolutely hated them, and eventually, she stopped making them for my brothers and me because we made such a fuss about it (and we weren't otherwise particularly picky eaters). I really like pork liver pate and liver pudding (a sort of spicy pork liver sausage).

What I want from you is your favorite liver recipe. I don't think I want to try frying chicken livers, but if you have other suggestions of things to do with the livers of animals (besides what I currently do with the ones that come inside of chickens, which is to boil them, cut them into small pieces and divide them between the dogs and the cat).

Any suggestions?

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(beef) liver and onions by R343L (4.00 / 2) #1 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:00:21 AM EST
Slice the onion in half, then make slices -- they'll break up into long pieces and central half-circles. Start the onions frying in a skillet (my grandmother used a cast iron one -- anything from that skillet tasted like liver and onions). Once they start softening, add the beef liver and fry it with the onions until the onions are golden (and liver is done).

That is all. I obviously don't eat this anymore, but I loved it as a kid. I had been known to order this in restaurants even (the ex hated liver.)

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot

Also by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #9 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:15:52 AM EST
Roll the liver in plain flour before frying - gives you a nice crispy coat.


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Liver by ad hoc (4.00 / 3) #2 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:06:08 AM EST
I just have an issue with eating an organ designed to filter toxins.
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There *is* that... by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:07:58 AM EST
and it's certainly a part of why I've been a bit squeamish about cooking my own. Still, though, I eat raw oysters. It can't be much worse than that, right?
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Fair enough, I guess by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #5 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:10:05 AM EST
but oysters are an entire animal. It's true they're filter feeders, but not everything they eat is toxic and they're not made of liver.
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You *do* have a point. by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:12:01 AM EST
Plus, oysters are really, really delicious, and I'm not sure anything could come close.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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Have you tried gold band oysters? by blixco (2.00 / 0) #26 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 05:52:01 PM EST
I'm not sure if they're available everywhere, but they're farmed oysters that are sterilized with steam (and a tight gold band is wrapped around 'em) to prevent poisoning.

They taste as good as fresh, with less risk of dying from a bad one.

http://www.theperfectoyster.com/
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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin

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I never have, no... by toxicfur (4.00 / 1) #27 Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 04:21:32 AM EST
but I've always lived close enough to coasts that produce oysters that I don't much worry. I think if I didn't have a place or two I trusted for oysters I'd certainly look into alternatives.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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Cooking your own ? by sasquatchan (4.00 / 1) #13 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 08:10:35 AM EST
That might be considered lethal in most cases. Best to pull a Lecter,and find someone elses'.

;)

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Nah, by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #19 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:23:21 AM EST
Just excise a bit, and it'll regrow.

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Detective by duxup (4.00 / 1) #3 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:06:54 AM EST
That sounds awesome, except for that horrible screaming WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! CSI intro each time you say something mildly witty on the job.  I would much rather the Law and Order music but I hear you can't get that anymore :(
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My brother *hates* CSI, by toxicfur (4.00 / 1) #6 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:10:42 AM EST
though he likes Law and Order. J took a course on the sorts of laboratory forensic stuff that's supposedly portrayed on CSI, and learned how much of the stuff they show is just utter BS, and the writers (at least according to the instructor of this course) are much more concerned with the "plot" than with representing police work more accurately. On top of that, juries expect the forensic evidence to be completely airtight because of shows like that. Still, I find the show pretty entertaining if there's nothing else on.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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Me 2 by duxup (4.00 / 1) #10 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:22:41 AM EST
Although I mostly can only tolerate even the old Law and Orders.  They're all so involved in drama with the investigators.  OMG serial killer on the loose and he's got one of the detectives!  WTF?

I miss the old more realistic shows.  Although with CSI that probably wouldn't work much.

We've got DNA from the internetz serial killer!  Can you identify him?!?!?

Yeah maybe when we get around to it.  We're back logged six months at the lab.  You're number 2831G, don't call us, we'll call you.
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i don't cook liver by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:13:37 AM EST
Though I do like to eat it, including ethically unsound calf's liver. The trick is not to overcook it or it turns into something horrid and grainy in your mouth. One fairly common way here is to chop it up, fry with finely diced onion and herbs and serve it with rösti.

calf's liver by iGrrrl (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:28:27 AM EST

Slice liver long ways if it's thick to make two pieces around 1/2 inch thick.

Heat pan with sufficient oil to prevent sticking. Sear liver on one side, about 2 minutes or so. Turn over. Cook about 2 minutes, cover cooked side with blue cheese, cover skillet long enough for cheese to melt. Eat. Liver should be barely cooked through.

"Beautiful wine, talking of scattered everythings"
(and thanks to Scrymarch)

oooh, blue cheese. by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:36:34 AM EST
That really sounds delicious. Thank you.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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Livers? by Pasofol (4.00 / 1) #14 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:02:20 AM EST
Said never as a child. 
And now I'll say never as an adult!
But I do act more as a kid then an adult.

I love liver by Herring (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:08:10 AM EST
But it's on the banned foods list. Along with anchovies. Boo.

christ, we're all old now - StackyMcRacky
Bummer. by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:17:57 AM EST
Anchovies are another thing I feel like I need to use in cooking more often. My grandfather had problems with gout for much of his adult life. It's a bitch.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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There must be... by ana (4.00 / 3) #17 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:19:31 AM EST
50 ways to love your liver.

/me runs away.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin

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Makes a change from staying in for drinks by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #18 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:20:00 AM EST
Well, the other night I got invited to a party, but I stayed home instead. Just me and my pal Johnny Walker,and his brothers Blackie and Red.

IIRC, kids have much more sensitive tongues and noses than adults, so that strong tasting foods taste stronger. That said, I still can't stand liver.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

I think you're right about kids' tastebuds by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:27:51 AM EST
My brothers and I have a remarkably wide range of stuff we like, though, and we're all pretty adventurous eaters (especially P, who when in school, ate a variety of insect life for money).

"In for drinks," just to clarify is me, dinner, and a couple of beers. Of course, I'd probably start to lose some of my ex-smoker weight gain if I cut out the beer.... Seems a drastic step, though. ;)
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM

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Liver. by blixco (4.00 / 1) #21 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:35:05 AM EST
Whatever liver you get, soak it in milk for a few hours.  That will cut down on the bile flavor, mellow it out a lot.

Beef liver: I'm happy with classic breaded fried liver and onions, with tobasco available.  Nothing fancy there.

Chicken liver: oh man.  Battered and deep fried with tobasco, or there's this recipe which I have made only once, and I loved it.

Right now I have two tins of goose liver pate that I'm going to use in a bison wellington. The tins I get, they go good with crackers or recipes.  Really good stuff.  I'll bring a tin if you are interested.

Here's my favorite foie gras recipe, a foie gras burger:

Take a fresh (not tinned) duck or goose foie gras. Grade A is preferred, and that will cost you a lot in goose, so duck is a good alternative.  Here's a place That I trust: http://frenchselections.com/database/catlist.hts?-Foie%20gras

Now, make a bison burger. Thick, so you'll want to fry it, then slow-cook it to ensure it cooks to medium-rare. At the very end of cooking, place a slice of cheddar...something sharp and fresh.

Slice some of the foie gras to about 1/4", salt and pepper a couple of slices, and sear it in a VERY hot pan until it is golden brown on both sides.

Pull the liver, and put some minced garlic + butter in the pan, and toast your hamburger bun in that.

Assemble the burger with the patty + cheese, then the foie gras, then lettuce, tomato, a splash of balsamic vinegar, some fresh pepper and voila.

Also, Pied de Cochon has a great recipe for foie gras poutin.  Fries, cheese curds, foie gras...mmmmm.

Man.  If my back didn't hurt so bad, I'd jump out of bed right now and make that wellington.  Man.  Now I'm hungry.
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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin

All of that sounds good. by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #22 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:43:28 AM EST
I think I'm going to need to add some stuff to this week's grocery list.... If you don't mind bringing a tin of the goose liver, I'd love to give it a try. And I think I'm going to have to try the foie gras burger as well.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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I will totally by blixco (4.00 / 1) #23 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55:30 AM EST
bring a tin or two of the pate. It is made with port wine, carrot, onion, duck meat, and goose liver and it is really, really great. It's also cheap.  Made by a company called Giovanni's, they make a number of pate tins, and they're all natural...no chemicals.
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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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Beef liver recipe and bonus-- chicken livers, too! by reza (4.00 / 1) #24 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 04:39:50 PM EST
Ok, mom always made her beef liver like a goulash...

Onions and meat sautee'd with some butter/oil.
Add some flour, salt, paprika then can of tomato sauce. 
Add 2 cups of water, then simmer, stirring often.

Chicken livers...actually livers and gizzards
Make like spaghetti sauce with whatever variations you like.  Make it thick and use it as an appetizer with crackers.

For specific recipes, I'd have to look through my recipes from my mom.  (I used to follow her around the kitchen and write down her "little of this" and "pinch of that")


" Be who you are and say how you feel, because those who mind do not matter, and those who matter do not mind!" Dr. Seuss

the lady at the farmers' market by persimmon (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 05:02:15 PM EST
told me to slice beef liver extremely thinly, dredge it in salted flour and briefly fry it on each side.

I failed at this so utterly that I gulp down raw chunks of liver like giant pills rather than try to   do it again. Also, rather than take those goddamn ferrous sulfate 235s.
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Simmy! by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #28 Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 04:23:24 AM EST
It's nice to see you! It's unfortunate that you are reduced to gulping down chunks of raw liver, though. Are you anemic? Will dark green leafy vegetables not do the trick? (I presume they won't, since they tend to be much less icky than iron pills or liver....). Good luck with it.
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yes by persimmon (2.00 / 0) #30 Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 06:01:19 PM EST
Iron-deficient anaemic. Also, my acupuncturist says I have "blood deficiency", which is a condition kind of overlapping with our definition of "iron deficiency anaemia".

Also, the desire to....attempt certain things in the not-too-distant future means it behooves me to be quite iron-replete.
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:-) by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #31 Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:17:24 AM EST
Good luck, and do keep in touch.
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To Rollins lesbians are like cuddly pandas: cute, exotic, forest-dwelling, dangerous when riled and unable to produce offspring without assistance.-CRwM
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Leave the title until last by Alan Crowe (4.00 / 1) #29 Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 12:35:15 PM EST
Then pick a statistically improbably phrase from the body. "Collard greens are delicious" or "Eye infection 95% better"

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