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By nightflameblue (Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:52:14 PM EST) (all tags)
The muffin man? The muffin man!

The New Wave of American Thrash. How do we get from here to there?



The New Wave of American Thrash. It's penetrating. And the big-wigs at the record companies have declared it the newest in the above-ground, underground, spotlight on these counter-culture fuckers trend. They're being signed left and right. Are they worth a damn? Any of them?

And with a resounding "fuck no" the call goes out amongst people who listened to thrash the first time it came around. Exodus, Testament, Slayer - thrash. I don't know what the fuck this "New Wave of Thrash" is, but I can tell you, it's not thrash. Just another attempt to subvert a name into something meaningless.

I refuse to name names because damn it, let their lousy bastard asses advertise themselves. If one of them impresses me, THEN I'll drop a name.

SUCKS! Next.

BREAK

So, I casually mention to Mrs. NFB that I'd like to break out that super sweet little ten gallon aquarium she bought me years ago and I just never quite got around to setting up this morning. I ask where she thinks would be a nice place to put it where it's easily visible and yet the dogs can't drink out of the open top.

The next thing I know she's discussing how to completely rearrange the living room and make room for a ninety gallon monster so we can finally get that pet Oscar the family discussed getting years and years ago but I figured we'd pretty much forgotten as a possibility because we're limited in space. Now, I know Pup1 likes the big fish because she hangs out watching the big fish at Petco on the rare occasions they have any in stock that are big. But still, I'm not sure how the conversation went from "I'd like to set up that ten gallon" to "let's get the monster."

But, I had to get out the door soon after that so it was left hanging. We'll discuss it. But I'm thinking at most, a middle-sized tank, like that nice forty-breeder I've seen on clearance, with a mid-sized pet-cichlid. I don't really think a monster tank is the way to go in our home. Either size-wise, or maintenance wise.

Now when in the name of all that's fucked did I become the reasonable one? This can't be right. I need to check my meds. Or hers.

Happy weekend everybody!

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New Wave Thrash by ad hoc (4.00 / 2) #1 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:11:31 PM EST
I don't know. I kind of like some of it.
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Damn it. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 2) #12 Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 11:49:58 AM EST
That's the first time I've actually been Rick Rolled, and I went to all the trouble of emailing myself the link at home to do it.

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I used to have an oscar. by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:12:58 PM EST
An oscar will grow to fit the tank it's in and usually won't outgrow it. Also, oscars usually don't mix well with other fish, as the oscars eat the other fish. Get a 30 gal tank for the oscar, use the 10 gal to store the feeder goldfish.

The 90 gal tank (I've dreamed of them, too) is what you get for marine aquariums.

Rule of thumb: One inch of fish per gallon of tankage.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)



I've been down the aquarium path many times. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:54:07 PM EST
And am fairly comfortable with fish husbandry. Putting an Oscar in a thirty gallon tank is one of those things I've flagged as "not a good idea." Yes, they will grow to the size of their surroundings, but for me, I won't put a fish into a tank where they can't grow to their full size. Stunting them just because you can doesn't seem right to me.

I'm a big cichlid head from way back. Jack Dempsey, Convict, Firemouth, and all sorts of Africans. Even had an Oscar once, but ended up giving him back when he started to look uncomfortable in the 55 I had for him. I decided then I won't buy a fish that has the potential to outgrow his/her tank.

BTW, that rule of thumb? Bunk. I know it's a nice beginner concept, but 12 inches of Oscar is a HELL of a lot different than 12 inches of guppy. I'm also not a big believer that all large tanks should be marine. I like marine and fresh, but my ultimate dream is a really, REALLY big tank, like 300+ gallon, housing a central american large-fish community. Freshwater.

We won't be doing that anytime soon at all. But hey, it's a nice future dream.

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Maybe all large tanks shouldn't be marine by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:56:10 PM EST
But all marine tanks should be large. I had a 30 gal marine and it was almost too small.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Not that myth either. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:07:43 PM EST
There's entire communities built up around the idea of marine tanks from less than half a gallon to thirty gallons. Granted, you have to bust your ass every damn day to make that work, and have fresh water compensation, and test every possible parameter daily, but it's possible.

I personally probably wouldn't do a marine system that totalled less than fifty gallons including sump, but that's because I'm a lazy SOB.

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Wow. Lunatics on patrol by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:10:19 PM EST
A 30 gal marine in the Utah desert required daily maintenance. I don't want to think of the maintenance required for a 10 gal marine tank.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Those people are pretty nuts. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:13:44 PM EST
Some of them spend over three hundred dollars on controllers for fresh water compensation to automagically keep salinity levels within the propper parameters on tanks less than ten gallons. I personally can't imagine investing that much in the entire aquarium setup if it's less than thirty.

But, hey, I'm sure most of them wouldn't spend three hundred bucks on an electric pickup for a violin either.

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We are, each of us, lunatics, in our own way. by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:28:21 PM EST
Especially around this place.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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tw00 dat! by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:35:08 PM EST
We each find our own ways to make it apparent.

I just wish I had a few less ways, if you know what I mean.

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OH YEAAAAAAAAH by joh3n (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 05:27:44 PM EST
HE LIVES ON MUTHAFUKIN DRURY LAAAAAAAYAYAYAYAAAAAN

</metal>

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I just ate about 7 pounds of meat
-theantix


Fairy tale metal r000lz it. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #13 Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 11:51:28 AM EST
Slayer doing Mary had a Little Lamb is teh muthatruckin' bombzerz.

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Huh. by webwench (2.50 / 2) #14 Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 09:33:08 PM EST
Slayer sucked the first time around. It was only useful as a way to shock one's parents, teachers, etc.

Getting more attention than you since 1998. Ya ya!


Whoah. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #16 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 09:35:41 PM EST
I thought we respected other's religious beliefs around here?

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OI Lady by TPD (2.00 / 0) #19 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 05:01:09 AM EST
Stop trolling!

Slayer are responsible for probably the greatest thrash metal album of all time!

Rock Hard Abs are just a sw-sw-swivel away!
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i can't wait by LilFlightTest (2.00 / 0) #15 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 12:16:44 AM EST
we've got a house now...which means we have room for the big tank we want. we have to be able to afford it first, but we have the room and the long term living arrangements. we want something with a lot of surface area, doesn't have to be tall, just fairly long and wide. my loaches are getting a little big for their 36 now (i never thought i'd have loaches bigger than 6 inches!!!), and i'd love to get them something that'd let them grow as much as they can.
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It's all about the depth. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #17 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 09:38:39 PM EST
And by that, I mean back to front, not top to bottom.  If I had the room, my tanks would be square on the bottom, or maybe even deeper front to back than side to side.  I love deep tanks.

But Mrs. NFB has given complete consent that if we ever win the lottery, I get my fish room.  No, not a room of tanks.  A single tank, with a sitting area in the middle.  Insane?  Yes.  It's a good thing our chances of winning the lottery are rather slim, seeing as how we play one set of numbers forever and ever.

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definitely by LilFlightTest (2.00 / 0) #18 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 12:06:34 AM EST
i'm not entirely sure if i'm comfortable with not being able to reach the back of my tank...but i think i'd live. they make long nets and other arm extending devices. but i want mister pleco to have enough room, too. he's the coolest pleco i've ever had (a pleco that doesn't struggle when you take him out of water to move him because he knows you'll put him back? a pleco that comes up to receive flakes with everyone else?) and i want to keep him instead of having to get rid of him if he's too big.
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if de-virgination results in me being able to birth hammerhead sharks, SIGN ME UP!!! --misslake
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Coolest tank I ever saw. . . by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #22 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 09:40:47 AM EST
was a 4' square bottom that was two foot tall. You could walk all the way around the outside of it, so you were never more than two feet from the center. The overflow was built into the middle of the tank, and the return jets kept all water flowing in the same direction making a gentle but noticeable flow around the tank. It was set up as an amazonian biotope.

If you have a big enough room, stick the tank in the center. Easy access on all sides. If not, make heavy-duty supports above you can lay on. I've seen it done both ways, but absolutely fell in love with the center-of-room tank.

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technically by LilFlightTest (2.00 / 0) #23 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:47:28 PM EST
you'd be more than 2 feet from center if you stood at the corner...and i don't know why that's the first thing i thought of.

i like the 40 i have now, and want another like it, only on a larger scale. i have sword plants aplenty in there, and i want another breeding pair of angels.
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if de-virgination results in me being able to birth hammerhead sharks, SIGN ME UP!!! --misslake
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I'm not clear headed enough. . . by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #24 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:52:03 PM EST
to piece together the geometry, but top corner to bottom inside middle would be the furthest you'd have to reach.  Meh.  Not that I'll ever have the room for that anyway.


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hex tanks by houser2112 (2.00 / 0) #20 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 08:48:07 AM EST
I've never seen a square-bottomed tank, but my father had a 45gal hexagonal tank that was pretty nice.  They're a good way to have a big tank if you don't have much wall available to put a rectangular tank against.

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The corners and the rounds. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #21 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 09:38:28 AM EST
I really like the newer corner tanks and the large cylinder tanks they're making now. Best volume to area ratio of any tanks available. And all you need is a little corner somewhere to put them.

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