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By blixco (Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 01:41:48 PM EST) (all tags)
Bad movies, and bad ass movies.


This worst movie poll brings to mind a recent afternoon where I managed to see three favorite Bruce Willis movies.

Now, mind you, I am not a cinema snob.  Nor do I glory in the pap that most movies turn out to be.  I'm sort of in between: I'm aware of what a good movie should look like, and I'm very happy with the really bad-for-the-sake-of-bad movies that normally feature Action, Car Chases, and Weapons.

So, I'm at home, right?  And I'm parked on the couch, finishing breakfast, when The Last Boy Scout comes on.

Now, if you have seen this movie, you probably think it was terrible.  Or just, meh.  But it deserves a serious second look.  First off, it's Bruce Willis playing the part of Bruce Willis, except the beaten-up old drunk wasted life ex-supercop version.  He plays a private eye called by his co-PI friend (who happens to be sleeping with his wife) to help in a protection / babysitting case.  The subject is Halle Berry, before she was Halle Berry And Her Boobs In: Halle Berry.  She dies (in a rather protracted and darkly violent gun and car fight, where both guns and cars are used to great effect), and her boyfriend (played by Damon Wayans at the height of his career), an ex-star QB ex-junkie ex-celeb is caught up with Bruce in a fight to find out why everyone involved in this case is dying.  Turns out the owner of the NFL has bribed a senator to pass legislation to legalize gambling, and the senator (who Bruce Willis used to protect as a Secret Service agent, I shit you not) didn't take the bribe (it wasn't enough cash), so the owner of the NFL gets Mylo (an excellent psychopath) to kill the senator while framing Bruce.

See?  Easy and possibly the best story of the year, action-movie-with-Bruce-Willis-wise.  Best moments: Bruce finding his friend hiding in his closet after coming home early.  Bruce using jokes to distract "a big pimp-looking motherfucker with a hat" who has a pistol to his head in order to stab him in the neck with a broken bottle.  Bruce dancing a jig after getting stabbed in the femoral artery, after killing Mylo by throwing him into the blades of a helicopter.  Too many one-liners to mention, this movie has it all.

Next, directly after that and well before I could properly prepare, was "Hudson Hawk," which is possibly the greatest bad Bruce Willis movie ever.  This was Bruce in thin, young, just-post-Moonlighting form.  He was a wiseacre ex-con catburglar who timed his jobs by singing songs whose track length was memorized by he and his cohort, at their correct tempo.  I guess it was easier to sing along to, say, "Singing in the Rain" (4:05) than to, say, use watches.

Anyhow, Bruce spends the movie trying to get a proper espresso, which is the one thing in jail that he most missed.  Which implies prison was pretty nice, or that he liked getting raped.

So, Bruce manages (while trying to get an espresso at his favorite neighborhood yuppie cafe) to get involved in an international plot involving The Vatican, The CIA, and a power-couple of bad guys (with their bad-ass butler and yappie dog).  The goal is to make gold from lead using secret DaVinci technology, stolen by Bruce from various Vatican interests.  The real goal is for this power couple to make money useless by flooding the market with cheap gold, and then somehow ruling the world.  Logical, given that we're all still on the gold standard.

In the end, Bruce gets the espresso, and gets to kill the dog.  His partner, after falling off a three hundred foot cliff into the ocean while trapped in an exploding limo, shows up at the end of the movie ("Airbags!  Can you fucking believe it!") along with the erstwhile nun / girlfriend (who speaks Dolphin) at a small Italian village to join Bruce for the cup of espresso.

Seriously.  I didn't make that up.  Someone spent millions of dollars on it, and it is fucking gloriously righteous.

Finally, The Fifth Element came on.  I was firmly camped at this point.  As we all know, the Fifth Element was whats-his-name's only good directorial attempt.  It stars Tricky as a henchman.  Milla as the hero, and Bruce as a beaten-up old drunk wasted life ex-supersoldier turned cabbie who saves the world via Milla Jovovich.  The movie explains the moon's presence in our sky.  It shows Milla's ability to act the coquette.  It stars more than a few fashion models.  Chris Tucker plays a cross dressing galactic DJ who has an awareness of 1980s songs.  And the president of the universe is James "Tiny" Lister.

Any movie with Gary Oldman is good.

Any movie with Bruce Willis that involves blowing shit up, and doesn't involve his ex-wife or any other Charlie's Angel, is good.

Anything with Milla is at least watchable.

Combined?  It's the best scifi movie with supermodels ever.

Later that night one of the cable networks was playing Die Hard 2 (the bad one).  I didn't have it in me, though; I was spent.

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one of my favorite movies ever by iGrrrl (4.00 / 3) #1 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 01:47:52 PM EST
Seriously. Fifth Element.

"I don't have time for martial law, I have to get to the gym!" zarathus


It is a damn fine movie. by blixco (4.00 / 1) #3 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 01:59:28 PM EST
I like some of the musical touches in it (with the exception of when the Diva starts popping and locking).  They'll have a heavy scene, and the music  slows down, flows surrealistically for while.  None of this over-the-top John Williams versus the Sousaphone crap.
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Fifth element by Pasofol (4.00 / 2) #5 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:03:13 PM EST
is a great movie. 

(How often do you see the main actress running around half naked, NM.)

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The scene in his apartment by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 2) #8 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:36:37 PM EST
where he's hiding different people in different places is absolute comic genius.


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What Judge Dredd should have been like by Rogerborg (4.00 / 5) #15 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:54:42 PM EST
Seriously, I think they just masturbated over a huge stash of 2000ADs until they passed out, then made sets from whatever didn't stick to the floor.

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Who knew boron would save the world? n/t by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 2) #2 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 01:56:41 PM EST


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Boron: by blixco (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:01:03 PM EST
Optical characteristics include transmitting portions of the infrared. Boron is a poor conductor of electricity at room temperature but a good conductor at high temperature.

And Milla was smoking hot my man, smoking hot.
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You say that like it's a surprise. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 03:07:47 PM EST
Milla is ALWAYS smokin' hot.

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Fifth Element by muchagecko (4.00 / 3) #6 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:09:47 PM EST
tastes like it came from a can.

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin


It did! by blixco (4.00 / 4) #9 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:42:22 PM EST
A can....of righteousness!
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Nothing good ever came by muchagecko (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:43:23 PM EST
from a can.

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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Don't lie. by blixco (4.00 / 2) #13 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:47:21 PM EST
Many good things come from cans.

Oil!

Whipped cream!

Beer!

Tuna!

Olives!

Italian tomatos!
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Salsa by muchagecko (4.00 / 1) #20 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 03:16:52 PM EST
spinach

beer

tuna

bread

spam

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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Meh by Driusan (4.00 / 1) #29 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 06:36:25 PM EST
Oil will be the death of us all. It's not very good.

Good whipped cream doesn't really come from a can, it comes from a blender or egg beater and mixture of ingredients.

Good beer comes from a tap, passable beer sometimes comes from a bottle, but good beer never comes from a can.

Tuna from a can is best referred to as "cat food."

Olives aren't very good. What are you, Greek?

I've never heard of Italian tomatos. The good ones probably don't come from a can, though. They probably come from, like, Italy. In crates or something.

Now peaches, on the other hand.. peaches come from a can.

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Just what bottled beer by wumpus (2.00 / 0) #32 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 07:09:12 PM EST
beats Guinness + gimmick fizzy thing?

Wumpus

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Blanche De Chambly. by Driusan (2.00 / 0) #33 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 07:14:12 PM EST
Maudite.


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beers that are actually good. nt. by gzt (4.00 / 1) #34 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 07:22:25 PM EST
nt

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olives? by R343L (4.00 / 1) #36 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 09:11:48 PM EST
What are you? Inhuman?

Also, regarding canned tomatoes, it turns out they aren't in season all year. And even when they are it can be difficult to get decent ones. So some Italians (and truthfully others) hit upon this idea of tinning really, really good ones when ripe. That's probably what they meant by Italian tomatoes. Still, if they didn't, useful thing to know, right?

Oh, and you're wrong about peaches.

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Dude. by blixco (2.00 / 0) #37 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 11:22:18 PM EST
The best tomato sauces are made from canned tomatoes.  Canned tomatoes from Italy.

Good whipped cream comes from a can, with happy propellants.

Beer is beer.

Tuna from a can is also tasty.

Olives are GREAT.

Peaches come from trees in the Hill Country just west of here.
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I'm with you, kiddo. by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 2) #23 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 04:42:30 PM EST
I don't hate Fifth, but I don't get all the love. It wouldn't even make my top 20 of that year. I think its even debatable if its the best Willis movie of that year.

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I could have slept through it. by muchagecko (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 05:21:50 PM EST
Predictable, pedestrian and pretentious.

Why don't we see what they see?

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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its funny? by alprazolam (2.00 / 0) #28 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 05:38:30 PM EST
there's a plot that you can even sorta follow if you want to bother. the colors are bright. gary oldman. pretentious...huh? compared to what? and milla is kinda pretty. oh and tricky...come on tricky and cross dressing chris tucker?

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All the pretty colors by muchagecko (2.00 / 0) #40 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 02:22:49 AM EST
couldn't hide the ridiculous plot. You just can't add enough flash.

I'll take the bare bones funny of Clerks over crap covered with glitter.

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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hmmm by alprazolam (4.00 / 1) #48 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 05:40:55 PM EST
i never once during the entire movie thought that the plot was at all important to the story.

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Style without substance. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #30 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 06:56:57 PM EST
Sometimes you have to eat the entire dessert cart.

This coomenat has be n soidnsord by hurricanbe ice malt liqur
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I've got nothing against style. by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 3) #43 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 09:16:26 AM EST
I'll pay good money to see somebody with skill and talent give me the ol' razzle dazzle.

For example, I liked The Fifth the first time Jean-Jacques Beineix made it as Diva, sans the Blade Runner meets Willy Wonka sci-fi trappings.

And, mostly, I like what Besson used to do. We'll be generous and ignore his weird free-diving epic. Otherwise, his early stuff was slick, smart pop with a nice and sharp little edge to it.

Subway and Le Femme Nikita haven't aged well, but I still find them pretty nifty. Whatever title you want to give it, Leon: The Professional remains, despite the creepy loli overtones, one of the best action flicks ever made.

But after that flick, Besson's just bloated. It's like he suffers from some law of diminishing cinematic returns. The more time, thought, and budget that goes into his flicks, the less he gets for his efforts.

Fifth is probably the best effort to get the French-stuff that used to show up in the pages of Heavy Metal on to the big screen, but it seems like it showed up to the party late and over-dressed. Besson doesn't have Lucas' touch with the childishly-fun stuff or Scott's grasp of the dark stuff - so we get this film that does both only kinda sorta well. Plus, it lacks its source material's bracing nastiness - we get all the Flash Gordon goofiness without the dash of Gallic bitterness and too-easy sexuality that prevented the bubble gum sci-fi from becoming so sweet it rotted your teeth. The result is a kit-bashed sample platter of sci-fi props that holds the interest, but looks pretty lame next to the films it too obviously cribs from.

The Messenger gives us the post-Armageddon treatment of the life of Joan of Arc that we'd all been clamoring for. Giving us the hip, "sexy," action-hero Joan that the stodgy Dreyer and chatty Bresson (what a difference an "R" makes) couldn't give us is an admirable goal, I guess. But Besson's brilliant strategy of stripping away all the intelligence and internal life for the title character - making her Buffy the Godless Foreigner Slayer, just another cookie-cutter version of that great late '90s icon of sciffy-dom: the hottie woman warrior - ends up producing something as flat and meaningful as Roland Emmerich's later effort to make that dull old Revolutionary War finally kick some ass in The Patriot. All the POV of the flaming-arrow shots in the world don't save it.

Do we need to go into AngelA? The only thing weirder than somebody thinking "We should make a better version of A Life Less Ordinary" is that fact that they couldn't pull it off.

Besson had the magic touch and lost it. Besson always made eye-candy: it's just that he used to make dark chocolate with a hint of pepper and now it's all strictly factory-grade milk chocolate.

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I love Blade Runner. I love Willy Wonka. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #44 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 12:46:36 PM EST
WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

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That's the kind of thinking that cost us . . . by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 2) #46 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 02:30:49 PM EST
Not one, but TWO Alien versus Predator movies.

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My main problem with the film by spacejack (4.00 / 4) #27 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 05:36:57 PM EST
It had the cool factor of the Muppet Movie mixed with the child-like humour of Blade Runner.

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Now that you've put it that way, by muchagecko (4.00 / 1) #41 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 02:26:07 AM EST
I want to see it again.

Or maybe I'm just drooling over the idea of PKD done with Muppets. ooh baby

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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Damn. We are too similar. by wiredog (4.00 / 3) #7 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:12:11 PM EST
I thought I was the only guy in the world who liked "Hudson Hawk." Great cast. Danny Aiello as the sidekick, James Coburn as one of the heavies, Andie MacDowell as the nun...

I loved Moonlighting when it was on, but it didn't age well. The Shakespeare episode is hilarious if you're familiar with the Moonlighting characters.

The Fifth Element is righteous. But Luc Besson did some other good movies: La Femme Nikita, Leon (The Professional) (Natalie Portman in pre-Star Wars form) and, ummm, The Joan of Arc movie was OK.

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Dude. by blixco (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:43:48 PM EST
Gabe was the one who convinced me that Hudson Hawk was as good as I wished it was.

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Check out Le Dernier Combat by LinDze (4.00 / 1) #42 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 05:00:54 AM EST
I think netflix has it now. Sure, its a black and white french movie with no dialogue but its Jean fucking Reno going all crazy mad max style to find the last treasure in the world.

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Best Bruce Willis movie by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #12 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:44:07 PM EST
Planet Terror.

It's a small part, but it's quality.

That, or Sin City.
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He is awesome in Sin City. by blixco (4.00 / 2) #14 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:47:47 PM EST
Damn fine part.
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I just saw "12 Monkeys" by LoppEar (4.00 / 2) #16 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 02:57:59 PM EST
for the first time last week. That there, that's a good movie. With Bruce Willis. Maybe not enough blowing-shit-up though.




Keep in mind, by blixco (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 03:07:24 PM EST
a  Bruce Willis movie is different than a movie with Bruce Willis.  Twelve Monkeys was a Terry Gilliam movie.  Hudson Hawk, Die Hard, etc are Bruce Willis movies.
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I figured I wasn't in deep enough yet by LoppEar (4.00 / 1) #45 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 01:32:19 PM EST
My education continues... Hudson Hawk is on its way.

Happy Belated Birthday!


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Bruce Willis by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #19 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 03:12:47 PM EST
I'm amazed to this day at the number of people who claimed Fifth Element was suck at its most suckiest when I've yet to actually see anything wrong with it. Especially when compared with any other movie of the time.

Strangely enough, I don't consider myself a Bruce Willis fan, but I can't remember ever seeing anything with him in it that I didn't basically like.

We saw that one where he's Mac's protector from the Mac & PC commercials at the drive-in this year and that was popcorn flick action at its finest. Especially as in-jokey as some of the scenes became for anybody involved in computer geekdom. Kevin Smith really doesn't fit the computer geek stereotype well enough to play his part perfectly, but outside of that the movie was grand fun.

Love for supposed bad movies is all over my house. We love some of the supposed worst movies of all time.



Ack! by spacejack (4.00 / 5) #21 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 04:03:09 PM EST
I must take exception: Luc Besson's Femme Nikita is one of the greatest action/suspense films ever made.

Bonus: For fans of movies featuring weapons: link.



Yeah. by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #26 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 05:29:53 PM EST

and even Leon, while not as good, is still miles better than Fifth.


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5th Element Costumes by J.P. Gaultier by zarathus (4.00 / 3) #22 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 04:08:30 PM EST
The costumes in this film were, in my opinion the sweet icing on a delectable cinematic cake. 

Another film with Gaultier costumes is "The Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover" which I recommend, but only to those seeking odd and potentially disturbing experiences.


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Gary Oldman by me0w (4.00 / 1) #24 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 05:20:19 PM EST
Is my second pretend boyfriend.


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WiPo by dev trash (4.00 / 1) #31 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 07:03:32 PM EST
Gleaming the Cube

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That wasn't Bruce Willis. by blixco (2.00 / 0) #35 Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 08:58:53 PM EST

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I coulda swore. by dev trash (2.00 / 0) #47 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 02:55:30 PM EST
man.

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Sierra's Music by littlestar (4.00 / 2) #38 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 12:22:49 AM EST
is awesome in the Fifth Element. I loved the Aria the blue lady sings (sung by an amazing Chzech opera singer) so I got it and sing it. It's Coloratura so it aint easy, but I soooooo love singing it. It makes me feel beautiful. The music is great in that movie.

I also just really like that movie. Not only does it have Bruce Willis in it, but it's good Sci Fi. All it's missing is Robots.
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Yup. by vorheesleatherface (4.00 / 1) #39 Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 12:59:55 AM EST
Love those three movies.

Bruce was also an excellent assassin in The Jackal. For having few spoken lines, he was awesome.

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