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By Tonatiuh (Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 07:50:30 PM EST) (all tags)
Unemployed (for 6 months now). Check.

Icesave bank. Check.

Could not withdraw money from Icelandic wreckage watining to happen last week because I was sick. Check.




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OK, I am still unemployed, but this was my plan all along, so no biggie there.

Of course now that the situation is panning out to be the biggest Financial Armageddon since, well, ever, my plan for a bit of a break before going back to work may backfire, in the sense of being completely bankrupt in one year's time.

I only need to make sure I have enough money to go back to Mexico and hide from my British creditors in the deepest of the Oaxacan jungle. Lots of nice towns there, I reckon the extradition of a poor sod that owns a bit of money here in the UK would not be a priority in country were  we are having people beheaded on the street almost every week. The wonders of worldwide mobility! (all this said in jest mind you, I don't want that this is pulled out of the Intarweb in the future like if I was serious!).

I invested in Icesave. From Iceland. And now my account is frozen (pun intended).

It looked like a safe enough investment one year ago. Now, is all gone, engulfed like if fallen in a big Icelandic volcano's lava river (now that the government of Iceland owns the bank they should offer a trip to Iceland in exchange for writting off the money of the bank's costumers, I would take the offer).

I did my homework, but of course I could not count with the lack of regulation in the CDS market (that is Credit Default Swaps I believe). for which one has to thank the fine politicians of the Republican party. And I am sure people in the other party as well.

I have always known that the corrupt political system in the US would eventually come back to bite with a vengeance in some big way. A country that has lost complete sight of what democracy is all about would have to suffer eventually, the problem is that  lots of countries are chained to the big fish, either by choice (UK) or by force (Mexico), and they will all be dragged with the good ol US of A.

Well folks, that day has arrived and it is today, when the relentless lobbying by special groups of all colours (here lets pause and  honour banks, financial institutions and perhaps even equal rights movements)  have finally driven to the ground the economy of the most powerful country in the world.

When Mr McCain (oh the irony!) was campaigning for political campaigning reform (more irony there) US people and politicians must have listened (but the later couldn't, the lobbyists were keeping the politicians's ears firmly shut).

Death by lobbying. That is what is happening today. As late as last week, Wall Street still had the verb to lobby for the plan that best suited their needs, and they got what they wanted (the government taking from their hands a load of crap). At least here in the UK the treasure will be partially owner of the banks, so the most successful they are the more the taxpayer will recover. This seems like the sanest of plans, no sorry, the least mad one, but unsurprisingly has not been the one chosen by the politicians in the land of the free, whom when under pressure by both lobbyists and the electorate decided to listen to the former.

USians: when are you going to fix your political system? Today that nonchalant attitude to the power of lobbies is costing you (and us) real money and a real decreasing in our living standards.

The first step is to kick the Republicans out of the White House. Big time. Humiliatingly. They were happy facilitating the killing of innocent people in a country that had no track record of terrorism while ignoring the necessary regulation of their cronnies in the financial system, action by which they lost the goodwill of most people in their righteous attack of Afghanistan and its abhorrent regime, safe harbour of authentic terrorists.

But kicking Bush & Co  is not enough. The system is sick and needs a complete revamp, which I am afraid will not happen. The only hope is that the powerful groups that "wag the dog" realize that it is not a good idea to piss off most of the population in order to accumulate a bit of money and power. There have been people out there that lost their heads for less, like offering cake to paliate the hunger.

But I would prefer to be offered cake rather than £2500 of crap shares in a shitty bank. Which I will not see anyway, but I will pay for them!

The joy, oh the joy!

Wait, there is an idea, send me my shares once they are bought. We the people will trade them and will restart the economy this way. But we need voting powers, otherwise they shares are worthless.
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It has to burn all the way down. by blixco (2.00 / 0) #1 Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 09:56:27 PM EST
The system is just starting to smolder.

It needs to get all the way unhinged before it can be fixed. Flesh out the greedheads and the loss leaders, fix the broken with our hands.

It will take a lot longer than we have time for.

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IAWTP by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #2 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:41:07 AM EST
That, and I want to see what Americans are really capable of, is why I've voting McCain/Palin this fall.

This coomenat has be n soidnsord by hurricanbe ice malt liqur
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Not totally suprised by Iceland by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #3 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 05:00:09 AM EST
The writings was on the wall for some time as the currency was sinking and there was huge external deficit. Suprised that so many savers were in Icesave and that the govt allowed a non-EU bank to market itself to UK savers without joining the UK deposit insurance scheme.



Heh. by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #4 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 06:28:03 AM EST
surprised the govt allowed a non-EU bank to market itself to UK savers without joining the UK deposit insurance scheme.

In the scheme of things, this fuckup is minor compared to selling gold low and announcing you're liquidating your holdings in advance, pulling the BoE's oversight of banks and giving it to a toothless FSA, massaging the country's books so that inflation was misreported in order to hold interest rates down and profit from fiscal drag on stamp duty, and pissing away over a trillion quid on pony projects that have delivered little benefit.


...Aaaaand breathe.


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Dear Breaker, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #13 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:51:10 PM EST
Please summarise all the cockups that I've made since May 5th 1997 in a similarly cogent manner, and I'll know a lot better what the fuck it is that I keep doing wrong.

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Off the top of my head I can think of only one by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #14 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 02:56:36 PM EST
* Not attending sufficient LHuSi beers!


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Last night's would have been great, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #15 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 04:46:30 PM EST
But, you know, fiances. Oh wait, I meant finances.

And come to think of it, energy. I did go up to Nottingham for a party at the weekend, so 300 miles in the car took a bit out of me.

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Heh by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #16 Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 05:26:55 AM EST
Just twisting your tail.


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Seems a bit like by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #5 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 08:07:25 AM EST
The BCCI collapse: I would have been a bit careful about putting my money in a dodgy international bank offering suspiciously high interest rates.

However, that's because I'm stupid, since it seems if do hand over your money to some wacky Icelanders who drop it all in a fjord, the British taxpayer will just reimburse you anyway.

I'm pretty sure some people somewhere lost money on the 3:15 at Newmarket yesterday. I hope Alastair Darling steps in to compensate them...

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Totally agree by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #6 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 08:28:56 AM EST
I feel that  if you wanna invest in a dodgy offshore bank to get a higher interest rate than what the UK banks and building societies (who are at least got their deposits guaranteed by the UK state upto £35,000) offer then you don't deserve to get bailed out but as the govt is bailing out everyone deserving and undeserving alike then I'm not suprised.

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Depends on your definition of dodgy by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #7 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 08:50:09 AM EST
Until the Irish govt. did their thing, the online bank Rabo Direct actually offered better guarantees as the Dutch central bank deposit  protection scheme was better than the Irish one. Irish banks were phoning the customers begging them not to move to Rabo. The difference is, you would be more likely to have an in-EU bank forced to honour committments in another EU country than a non-EU one.


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It goes like this in terms of dodginess by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #8 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 09:39:20 AM EST
Icelandic bank>Irish Banks>UK Banks>Dutch Banks>German Banks

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See my first comment by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 09:43:53 AM EST
As I think there is a big diference between you ease of getting your money out of an EU bank than a non EU one but even so I wouldn't rush to put my money in a Greek bank, EU or non-EU.

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Also by R Mutt (4.00 / 1) #10 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 10:23:20 AM EST
Iceland is a tiny nation. Population of 300,000 which is about the same as Ealing. You don't have to be a financial genius to work out that they might have some trouble guaranteeing their banks...

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The Icelanders didn't drop things in a fjord! by Tonatiuh (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:03:58 PM EST
Gosh, they are comparably well managed.

All goes back to Lehmans Brothers and the fact that they had exposure to both US mortgages and unregulated CDSs. Once they were too exposed to the abominations created around sub prime mortgages they could not cover their CDSs obligations, which they had entered with multiple banks all around the world, drectly, or most likely indirectly.

It is not  a coincidence that pretty much the first CEO in front of a US congressional committee after the bailout was Lehmans Brothers one.


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Icesave is insured allright. by Tonatiuh (4.00 / 1) #11 Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 11:56:42 AM EST
By both Icelandic and UK schemes.

It is just that it is going to be a PITA to get back one's money.

When I made the investment there was no way to know the situation would be this bad (to the point that Iceland, the country, may go bankrupt and may need to be "bailed out" by other governments to cover for the financial commitments it is undertaking  with the nationalization of some of the banks and the protection schemes in place).

I asked around, I listened carefully to some pundits but alas, nobody really knows what they are talking about at this moment....


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