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By misslake (Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 07:32:19 PM EST) (all tags)
my life is like a ripe red tomato


or is it that my life contains a lot of ripe red tomatoes.

i need a good salsa recipe. i have already canned 8 jars plain, and i think i'd like to try my hand at salsa this harvest.

i am terribly sensitive to garlic, it gives me terribly tummy trouble, and i hate cilantro.
so ideally i'd like a salsa recipe that won't be rendered terrible by the omission of garlic and cilantro.

also, i am looking for a salsa that isn't served raw, since i plan on canning the stuff into mason jars.

help me husi, you're my only hope.

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no garlic or cilantro?!?!?! by MillMan (4.00 / 3) #1 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 07:44:05 PM EST
I just...I...words fail me.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?


I mostly agree by R343L (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 08:55:39 PM EST
I can see doing without garlic (onions and/or scallions and/or shallots work), but cilantro is pretty much required.

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot
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i never really liked it, then The Incident by misslake (4.00 / 2) #15 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:12:02 PM EST
i was at the field lab for my vegetable production course. i was in the midst of canada's largest broccoli farm. there were around 300 acres of broccoli. as each field of broccoli was harvested, it was immediately ploughed under and then cilantro planted. in between the broccoli cleaning, harvesting, weeding and packing, 50 migrant farmers, all seikh, all imported from the same village in punjab tended the cilantro. the whole operation smelled of rotting brassica and cilantro. the nauseating sulphurious odours of rotting broccoli were impossible to cover up with the heady fragrance of cilantro, yet the workers kept thier pockets and shoes stuffed with posies of cilantro stems. the fragrance of cilantro was like a physical blow to your face, and yet that terrible scent was the lesser of the two sensory offenses. all you coudl smell was cilantro, followed by a lingering wafting suggestion that although you might not be able to concieve of a worse fate than being smothered by cilantro fumes, you would be thankful for thier overpowering aromatic esters if the alternative was known.

i can't eat it now. it reminds me of indentured farmers and rotting broccoli.

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I guess that is a good reason by R343L (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 12:47:04 AM EST
But you could always try to train out of it. Maybe eat some cilantro-ed salsa in bed with a hot guy? :)

Rachael

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot
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Not for all salsas by theboz (2.00 / 0) #24 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 09:14:48 AM EST
It's required for the normal salsa, but there are plenty of great salsas that don't have them. It's just that they aren't for eating with chips like most salsa is served in the U.S.

For example, there are some great salsas made with chile de arbol that are more of a liquid and have a unique taste. However, I didn't bother posting any of that because I'd be surprised if she can even get her hands on a serrano pepper, much less something even more rare, up in Canada. I think they're probably limited to whatever is imported from Asia, and lame shit like jalapeños and bell peppers.
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Serrano peppers are available by glamorgan (2.00 / 0) #27 Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 12:51:25 PM EST
In almost any chain grocery store in any decent-sized canadian city.  More exotic peppers are harder to find.

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Interesting challenge by gpig (2.00 / 0) #2 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 07:59:13 PM EST
It's not exactly salsa, but if you like basil, you could get a bucketload of that and put it in with the tomatoes and some other seasoning. I made a very gentle basil and tomato sauce a little while ago when I was ill and didn't want to tempt fate with onions or garlic, it was pretty good.

Added a little bit of oregano, salt, black pepper, and soy. If I was feeling better I would have followed that up with chili sauce or fresh red chili, onions, probably a red capsicum or sweet pepper.

Have fun with your tomatoes ....
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Here's one I made with garlic but without cilantro by clover kicker (4.00 / 3) #3 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 08:29:23 PM EST
http://www.americastestkitchen.com/printrecipe.asp?recipeids=3219
(dunno if you can see that without registering, so here's the whole thing...

3     medium jalapeño chiles , halved, seeds and ribs removed (see note above)
1 1/2     pounds plum tomatoes (about 8 medium), cored and halved
1/2     medium yellow onion , cut into 1/2-inch wedges
2     medium cloves garlic , peeled
1     tablespoon tomato paste
    Table salt
3     tablespoons vegetable oil
1/2     teaspoon ground cumin
1/8     teaspoon cayenne pepper
3     tablespoons minced fresh cilantro leaves
    Ground black pepper
1 - 2     tablespoons fresh lime juice from 1 or 2 limes, plus additional lime cut into wedges for serving

Adjust oven rack to middle position; heat oven to 375 degrees. Mince one jalapeño and set aside. In medium bowl, combine tomatoes, remaining jalapeños, onion, garlic, tomato paste, 1 teaspoon salt, 2 tablespoons oil, cumin, and cayenne; toss to mix thoroughly. Place vegetables cut side down on rimmed baking sheet. Roast until tomatoes are tender and skins begin to shrivel and brown, 35 to 45 minutes; cool on baking sheet for 10 minutes. Increase oven heat to 450 degrees. Using tongs, transfer roasted onions, garlic, and jalapeños to bowl of food processor. Process until almost completely broken down, about 10 seconds, pausing halfway through to scrape sides of bowl with rubber spatula. Add tomatoes and process until salsa is slightly chunky, about 10 seconds more. Add 2 tablespoons cilantro, reserved minced jalapeño, salt, pepper, and lime juice to taste.


Roasting the veggies gives nice flavour, and adding lime juice makes it not taste like spaghetti sauce.

I didn't have any cilantro on hand when I tried this, but I still liked the result.



Pepper: by ti dave (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 04:02:55 AM EST
Cracked, not ground. Sweet Jesus, ground black pepper is so fucking boring.
In any other event, I Approve Of This Recipe.

I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. --W.S. Burroughs

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blixco needs to see this diary. by toxicfur (4.00 / 2) #4 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 08:32:51 PM EST
Because I'll bet he can come up with something amazing. I think you can probably go with tomatoes, jalapenos (or other spicy pepper, chopped fairly fine), onions (carmelized or roasted onions might be good), and a bit of lime juice. In fact, you might try roasting the tomatoes, onions and chilis on a charcoal grill before canning, and/or using chipotles. That might make an interesting combination, but I'd try it before putting it into cans.
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Why don't you like garlic? by komet (4.00 / 2) #5 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 08:39:09 PM EST
I know he gives out low ratings, but he is consistent about it. I'm pretty certain he isn't a troll, either.

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*n*o waistcoa*t*. by misslake (4.00 / 1) #10 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 09:55:53 PM EST


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the joke that keeps on giving. by garlic (3.00 / 2) #22 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 08:45:24 AM EST


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'..terribly sensitive to garlic..i hate cilantro.' by greyrat (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 09:40:12 PM EST
#WHIMPER# #SOB#

i... i don't love you anymore...

/me curls up into a little ball and rocks back and forth, crying.



but i've got TITTIES!!!PONIES!!11!!! by misslake (4.00 / 4) #9 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 09:55:04 PM EST
is a garlic alergy all that it takes for you to disregard my youth, great tits and the junk in my trunk? can an unfortunately flatulent reaction to allacin really be all that it takes to sour your affection and delicious sexual harasment?

wow. i'm surprised that was all it took.

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OK. I changed my mind. by greyrat (4.00 / 2) #13 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:08:41 PM EST
I'll be there in...

/me calculates mileage.

Two days. In the meantime, please see here.

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Cilantro can be by blixco (4.00 / 4) #8 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 09:49:11 PM EST
done without.  No biggie.  Garlic is a bit of a requirement, but no biggie.

Onion, tomato, vinegar, jalapeno, cumin (do you like cumin?), dry pequin peppers, dry pico peppers, red chili powder, and lime.  Plenty of lime.

Simmer everything.  Adjust to taste.  Avoid salt, use lime and / or vinegar.  You should have a relatively high Ph.  Like 4 or so.

Equal parts tomato to onion, since you're not using garlic.  It'd be nice to have some anaheim or new mexico chili, something more than bell but less than jalapeno.  But maybe add in some bell, some hungarian or wax peppers.  The dried red peppers, go nuts.  Pequin are very hot, Pico are pretty warm, and both have a bitter bite to them.  If you can get dried pablano, scorch it first then add it.

Include some seeds.

Like a pot of chili, salsa should be made to taste.  This will get you started, so far as tomato based versions go.
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Oh and by blixco (4.00 / 4) #11 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 09:59:20 PM EST
if you like smokey flavors,

4 Chipolte chiles, dry
1 C Boiling water
1 tablespoon Oil
¾ C Diced onion
¾ C Bell pepper
2 C Fresh tomato, peeled and diced
½ teaspoon dry oregano

Combine chiles and boiling water. Let soak 30 min. Remove stems and seeds and chop.

In non-aluminum saucepan (and using wooden utensils), heat the oil until shimmery, then sauté the onion, sweet pepper, and chipoltes until onion is slightly tender. Add the chili, soaking water, tomatoes and oregano and simmer for three or so minutes.  Remove from heat and process briefly in blender until ingredients are well mixed but still chunky.

Not ideal for canning because the Ph is too low, so experiment with adding lime juice or cider vinegar, tweaking the oregano and chipolte as needed.
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"You bring the weasel, I'll bring the whiskey." - kellnerin
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Canning by ni (4.00 / 1) #14 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:10:04 PM EST
Not ideal for canning because the Ph is too low

I think you mean too high. But it's moot anyway: I have a pressure cooker, and can can (can-can!) without much regard for pH.


"What woman wouldn't love a guy in WW2 aviator glasses eating their ass?" -- dest
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i love cumin, but not as much as i love you. by misslake (4.00 / 2) #12 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:01:15 PM EST
what sort of vinegar(s)?
i've got white, cider, red wine, white wine, rice wine, and umeboshi plum.
as for chili, there are jalapeno, several unripe and unknown in my garden, serious smokey hungarian paprika, red korean 'chili pepper powder' and non-descript grocery store 'red pepper flakes'

i miss the beautiful salsa verde and salsa rojo from my winter in mexico. if there are tomatillos at the market this weekend i'll be soon hitting you up for a salsa verde recipe.

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Apple cider or red wine. by blixco (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 07:03:18 AM EST
Cider is probably the best bet.

Use whatever fresh peppers you have, but definitely include some jalapeno.
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Oh, and, by blixco (2.00 / 0) #21 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 07:07:43 AM EST
I have this aversion to tomatillo salsas, mainly because you see tomatillo sauce substituted for green chili sauce here in Texas, and that's just sacrilege.  But I do have two recipes for tomatillo.

And, I love you too.
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Could this help? by CountSpatula (2.00 / 0) #16 Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 11:44:32 PM EST
Instead of cilantro, check out tarragon, fresh crushed basil leaves, dill and increase the oregano input.

Garlic is a toughie to get past, but you might want to instead finely dice some shallots.  They'll impart an interesting taste.  Still won't match the garlic taste, but I assume you're looking for something somewhat unique.

Let me know how it turns out, and don't worry if you use too much.  Salsa is a lot like spaghetti or chili.  Since it's mainly tomato based, you can pretty much dick around with anything else and make it palatable.

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cultural differences by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #18 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 02:35:41 AM EST
I don't have any recipes to hand, but it sounds like  some chutney recipes might suit what you are trying to do re. bottling and preserving.

You could try to make some homemade ketchup too.



Here you go by theboz (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 09:07:21 AM EST
Ingredients: Instructions:
Cut tomatoes in quarters and puree them in food processor. Strain puree through a coarse sieve to remove skins and seeds. (You can dump the puree into a colander and work it through with your hands until there is nothing left in the colander but a dryish pulp of skins and seeds.) Now pour into a large stainless steel or enameled kettle. Cook and stir occasionally over low heat until it is reduced by about a third and is considerably thicker.

Pour the vinegar into the tomato puree and add salt and sugar while you stir it. Adjust the ingredients for taste.

Now you've made ketchup, because salsa is supposed to be made fresh. It is not to be put in jars or canned, or it tastes horrible. What you're asking for is the equivalent of canned sushi.
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Do your 'leet M3x1can cont@cts by ni (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 04:26:24 PM EST
know of any cannable uses for tomatoes that are more appealing?


"What woman wouldn't love a guy in WW2 aviator glasses eating their ass?" -- dest
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Canning is for northerners by theboz (4.00 / 1) #26 Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 08:30:06 PM EST
Here in the south there is no need for such concepts because we don't have six months of arctic hellishness every year.
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