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By georgeha (Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 05:59:37 AM EST) gaming, tweens, carbonated sugary goodness, black panthers (all tags)
and you probably watched it on Friday. Yeap, High School Musical 2 now holds the crown.

Plus, the sweet taste of illegal soda/pop and sweet sweetback's badasss metamovie, Memoir '44 and other gaming, preschool party, the trouble with multidimensional friends, Wyrms, one week in and less.

Poll: Favorite soda flavor?



This weekend was the world premiere of High School Musical 2 on the Disney channel, which approached HP7 in the hype department for tweens and teens. Strangely, eleven year old barely cares, while six year old is all over it. She's watched it three times this weekend. Wikipedia says it is now the most watched cable/dish telecast evar.

While I haven't seen the original High School Musical, most reviewers are saying the original was better. It's in the genre where kids from opposite cliques interact and discover everyone is really the same, sort of a G rated Breakfast club I guess. There are role models for just about everyone in the movie, geeks and jocks and even the stylish show tune loving well dressed hat wearing sensitive young man.

The other movie this weekend was Baadasssss!, a movie about the making of Sweet Sweetback's Badasssss Song, the first blacksploitation flick. I'd give it a 7, it was okay and watchable, but not worth watching again.

When you get married with kids, it gets exponentially harder to find mutually acceptable friends, where each spouse gets along with the corresponding other spouse, and the kids get along. I'm not even going to think about where spouses get along well with the opposite spouses, save that for the freaks in California. We do have a few families like that in our circle, one or two.

Saturday was a full day. In the morning preschool mom was having a birthday party for her son, who is entering kindergarten at our school. We dropped the girls off and went estate and garage saling, getting a few deals but nothing spectacular. We picked the girls up later, and met a couple where the dad works at my $corp, in yet another Rochester is a small city moment.

Since Saturday was the third Saturday of the month, it was time for the gaming club to meet, and I got a chance to go. I played my first games of Memoir '44, the Pegasus Bridge scenario, splitting the wins with the other player. it's in my meh category, I can live with the card play since that's essential to the game, but I disliked being unable to reinforce my troops. I also played the starter game of Advanced Tobruk, and Sunday eleven year old and I played Carc Hunters and Gatherers.

The last book I finished was Orson Scott Card's Wyrms, which was okay, and full of classic Card themes. You got the wacky alien DNA mixing with terrestial, the ass kicking juvenile who has to save humanity, and some religion. It goes for a buck or two on Amazon, I should sell my copy.

Mrs. Ha has had one week in her new job at the florist, and she's liking it. It's much less than the Red Cross, but the hours are much less, and there's no day care to worry about. The stress is far less, too, so this may be a keeper.

I'm sure it's been mentioned here before, but I live near one of the significant linguistic divides in America, the line between calling a carbonated soft drink soda versus pop. The line runs right down the middle of Pennsylvania, with Philly sorts calling it soda, and Pittsburgh sorts calling it pop, which made for a brief discussion at school.

In the interests of Eucumenicalism, I'll call them both (if you're one of those southerners who call everything coke, you need to change). This weekend we had a sweet tasting illegal soda/pop, Coconut soda/pop. It was good, and I saw no refund value for New York on the can, so it was probably illegal. I like to live dangerous. Anyhow, what's your favorite soda/pop flavor?

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I don't know that 10 year old even knows about it by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #1 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:13:27 AM EST
She's too busy watching Enterprise and Kolchak -  I'm doing terrible things to my childrens' minds.


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Don't for get Mannix and Hawaii Five-oh by greyrat (2.00 / 0) #2 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:19:28 AM EST


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Damn you by Phage (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:30:24 AM EST
Now I have the Hawaii 5 Oh theme tune in my head..

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bupa BUPA buh buh bupa bupa baaaaahhh... by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #4 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:32:52 AM EST
I loved all those detective shows when I was a kid.

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Book him Dan-O by Phage (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:01:52 AM EST
Yup. Many happy memories of Kojak, Starsky & Hutch, H 5-O, Rockford Files, Colombo...

(How come it was always 'Murder 1' never Drugs 2, or Extortion 8 ?)

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The Mystery Movie of the Week by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #28 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:01:38 AM EST
McCloud. Bannachek (sp?). Police Story - with the blonde bombshell... what was her name.... Angie Dickenson.

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And what was the one with by greyrat (2.00 / 0) #37 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:32:52 AM EST
Rock Hudson and Jill St. James?...

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Oh, feh. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #40 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:38:45 AM EST
Not Hart to Hart, that came later with Stephanie Powers and Robert Wagner. But it was the same basic idea....

MacMillian and Wife - and it was Susan St. James.

Jill St. John was a Bond girl in Diamonds are Forever

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#SIGH# My brain is mush. by greyrat (2.00 / 0) #45 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:55:21 AM EST
I blame all the hashish when I was sixteen.

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I know what you mean. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 2) #46 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:03:13 AM EST
I found some of those special lick-on teddy bear stickers when I was 5 and I was never quite right after that.

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I loved all those old detective shows by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #5 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:35:09 AM EST
those were some of the best times of my life, sitting on the couch next to my mom watching H-50, Barnaby Jones, Columbo, Mannix, Streets of San Francisco....

Not to overlook the 6 Million Dollar Man, the Invisible Man, the Man from Atlantis and all those other near-sci-fi shows.

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Don't forget Ironsides and The Rockford Files by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #6 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:44:47 AM EST



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Ironsides I can do with out but... by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #7 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:52:41 AM EST
the Rockford files? I forgot Rockfish? I feel ashamed.

I could probably rattle off half the ongoing sub-plots in that series. Angel the stoolie, Dennis the cop, Rocky working under the table to supplement his Social Security...

Ah, good times, good times...

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Don't forget Cannon. by greyrat (2.00 / 0) #8 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 06:55:55 AM EST
Remember his fancy (for the time) car phone? What was the name of the woman he was always talking to on it?

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Rockford Tie In by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #25 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:57:47 AM EST
Do you remember Tom Selleck playing a perfect, good-looking, playboy PI who occasionally crossed paths with Rockford - he had a white convertible, a watch that beeped the hour and a "mobile phone" - not a cell phone, you had to call the mobile operator to place a call...

Then he got Magnum, PI playing almost the same character.

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He played "Lance White" in by Horatio Hellpop (4.00 / 1) #33 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:26:38 AM EST
White on White and Nearly Perfect (1978) & Nice Guys Finish Dead (1979)

"You can't really know something until you ruin it for everyone." -some guy who used to have an account here

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Don't forget Quincy by Phage (2.00 / 0) #60 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 01:04:57 AM EST
Wasn't the invisible man called The Omega Man ? I never liked Wonder Woman though. Just OTT.

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There *was* a Gemini Man by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #62 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 02:58:19 AM EST
There was an invisible man series every couple of years, I think.

The Omega Man was an alien who fell to earth, IIRC.

And Quincy was great - "He didn't have to die, Sam!"


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The invisible bloke by Phage (4.00 / 1) #64 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:11:10 AM EST
With a digital watch that allowed him to turn it on and off ? That may be the gemini man.
Quincy was a legend. How many series copied that format ? They're still doing it - CSI is just Quincy with cooler actors and a bigger budget.

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Yeah - that was him. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #67 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 06:27:51 AM EST
And if he didn't turn it off fast enough, he'd die - and the watch was always getting broken

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Funny how that happened. by Phage (4.00 / 1) #68 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 06:35:55 AM EST
It was never just the battery.
Good memories indeed.

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Oh, and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE by greyrat (4.00 / 2) #11 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:11:12 AM EST
The real ones with Mr. Phelps.

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The Mod Squad. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #26 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:59:03 AM EST
Which was MI with younger people.

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And bigger hair. And cooler shades. by greyrat (4.00 / 1) #36 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:31:12 AM EST
Was the black guy in the Mod Squad the same guy as in the Matrix? I can't Google it right now, but I think that's right...

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That would be insanely cool, but no. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #42 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:42:48 AM EST
Mod Squad was Clarence Williams, Matrix was Lawrence Fishburn. They do kind of look alike.

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PEGGY LIPTON!!! by Horatio Hellpop (4.00 / 2) #39 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:38:39 AM EST
One of my first Retro Crushes, also ended up marrying Quincy Jones and playing waitress Norma Jennings on television's Twin Peaks.

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Write in Poll Option... by atreides (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:10:14 AM EST
Mexican Coke. I don't know if they're available everywhere but Coke with real sugar instead of corn syrup takes me back to my childhood everytime I drink it...

He sails from world to world in a flying tomb, serving gods who eat hope.

Cecil Adams claims kosher Coke by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #13 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:16:33 AM EST
uses real sugar. The Coconut soda we had didn't use corn syrup.


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Is that anything like by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #47 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:03:51 AM EST
Colombian coke?

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Not so much... by atreides (2.00 / 0) #48 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:09:55 AM EST
Favorite soder by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #12 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:15:44 AM EST
  1. Vernor's (it has to be Vernor's. "Ginger Ale" is insufficient)
  2. Birch beer
  3. Good root beer (pre-Coke Barq's, IBC)
Alas, now that I'm doomed to diet sodas, it's all crap.

aside: this is a big area for one of the "other" words: tonic
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Saranac makes a good root beer, too by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:18:00 AM EST
and you could always brew your own very low sugar root beer.


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I've thought about it by ad hoc (2.00 / 0) #15 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:21:54 AM EST
but I've had some very bad homemade root beers which makes me think it's hard to do.
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I'm 1 for 1 by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #16 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:24:17 AM EST
they probably didn't use enough bleach to sanitize their stuff.


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ditto on the Vernor's by lm (2.00 / 0) #21 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:51:32 AM EST
Although the local Sri Lankan place used to make a home brewed ginger beer that was to die for.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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WIPO by bob6 (2.00 / 0) #17 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:25:57 AM EST
Guaranà.
But it is said that gringos don't like it.

Cheers.
I love the stuff by LoppEar (2.00 / 0) #44 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:52:05 AM EST
Somewhat hard to come by here though, I don't know what their importer's situation is like but I tend to find one order of it at local minimarts and then it is gone.  I'm down to my last two liter, I used to order it through sendex, and word is it's usually in stock at this one place across town, but criminy, enough complaining.

Deliciousness. Every neighbor here I've shared it with likes it, on the other hand as far as I can tell I'm the only person buying it near here.


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I saw some Gurana flavored soda at the by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #69 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 06:37:46 AM EST
grocery store last night, but I didn't feel like getting it.


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Don't know where you live... by bob6 (2.00 / 0) #72 Wed Aug 22, 2007 at 03:01:48 AM EST
but expatriate Brazilians usually get strongly homesick and guarana soda is a typical palliative for homesickness. So any place where there are enough Brazilians (any major EU/US city > 200.000h), there's a market for Guarana. Look for a Brazilian shop, even if it is supposed to sell clothing, Hawaïanas or travels, it will probably have some Guarana in the back shop.
Well, the General Consulate of Brazil in Paris sells Guarana...

Cheers.
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Just to annoy you by sgt york (2.00 / 0) #18 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:32:41 AM EST
My favorite coke is root beer. IBC root beer, to be exact. That's what you get for asking Southerners to change.

"Change" is what you get after you buy something. It's something to do just before (or just after) going swimming. The only time we change is when we're going somewhere nice for dinner.

I am so glad my kids don't know about High School Musical. My eldest is 6, and  she'd probably go nuts for it. One more week is all I get, though. School is starting. Oh well, at least we don't have cable.

"No, honey, it's too new. It won't be on Netflix yet..no...no...don't search for it...um...well....no. No, it's not the same movie. See? No number after it. Hm? Yeah, you bet it makes a difference!"

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks

I'm glad I left the South before I got into herbal by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #19 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:40:03 AM EST
tea, I'd have no idea how to order it without getting sugary sweet iced tea.


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southerners change before swimming? by lm (2.00 / 0) #20 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:50:17 AM EST
I thought they just stripped.

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Not always by sgt york (2.00 / 0) #22 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:52:11 AM EST
Sometimes you just jump in with your clothes on. It's a good way to cool off.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks

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Nah by sgt york (2.00 / 0) #24 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:56:09 AM EST
I've never had a problem. I hate sweet tea, and I grew up in the deep south. Just ask for it unsweet.

I think if you just ask for tea anywhere, you're unlikely to get herbal.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks

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IBC ? by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #43 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:46:34 AM EST
I thought all true southern gentlemen drank Barqs root-beer ?

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Barq's? Nasty stuff by sgt york (2.00 / 0) #49 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:37:20 AM EST
IBC > A&W >>> old pond water >>>> Barq's.

Root beer is for kids, anyway. Men drink RC Cola.

And yes, that means I'm basically a little kid.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks

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I managed to escape HSM II by lm (2.00 / 0) #23 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:53:18 AM EST
I was visiting with my aunt and we sent the wee tykes downstairs to watch. The funny part was that after worrying about possibly missing it, thirteen fourteen year old fell asleep before it was half over.

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Dear Mr. Ha. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #27 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 07:59:44 AM EST
My apologies - I seem to have hijacked your diary entry with an infectious 70's cop show meme.

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That's alright, I still get the comment count by georgeha (4.00 / 1) #29 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:03:07 AM EST
which means I should top the Bob Abooey diary this quarter.


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I know, I know! by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #32 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:26:14 AM EST
Believe me, I've been sitting here, trying to think of ways to link-jack the conversation back to my own diary.

Unfortunately, I don't think my attempt to conflate painting the living room with the war in Iraq was very successful.

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You should have mentioned boobies by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #35 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:28:03 AM EST
masturbation or circumcision, though I don't know how they tie into living room decor.


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Badly placed furniture, maybe? by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 3) #41 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:41:16 AM EST
That would be awkward to explain to the ER nurse.

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pop by spacejack (2.00 / 0) #30 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:03:57 AM EST
I think all of Canada says "pop" rather than soda, but I could be wrong. West-coasters seem to use a lot of USianisms (eg. still using miles.)

WIPO: San Pellegrino. I've pretty much lost my taste for sugar drinks. Something about S.P. "tastes" really good though, despite shipping it over here probably being bad for the environment, making me look like a pretentious urbanite, etc. I wish I could get it on tap at home.

I used to be a VC guy. by Horatio Hellpop (2.00 / 0) #31 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:22:20 AM EST
Currently, I am Diet Pepsi Max's li'l bitch.

"You can't really know something until you ruin it for everyone." -some guy who used to have an account here

I like Diet Pepsi for road trips by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #34 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:26:42 AM EST
it seems a little less likely to ruin your teeth when you don't feel like stopping to brush every hour.


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WIPO... by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #38 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 08:38:20 AM EST
sort of. My favorite soda is a diet vanilla coke made at an ice cream shop/soda fountain. There was a place in my hometown that made the perfect one, and the crap the soda companies are packaging as "vanilla coke" just isn't the same. Fortunately, I was able to get a real one in Madison, WI, at a totally kitschy-cool place that LFT and nstenz took us. Mmm. My everyday soda addiction is Diet Coke, sans flavoring, though - and it has to be Coca-Cola brand.

Oh, and FWIW, in my part of the South, most people referred to them as 'soft drinks.' Occasionally, older people called them 'soda pops,' but nobody referred to them generically as 'cokes.' Lexical variation is really interesting to me....
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we can get real vanilla cokes by StackyMcRacky (2.00 / 0) #54 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:17:41 AM EST
at any Sonic.  also, real cherry cokes as well.

personally, i go for the cherry limeaid.

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We don't have Sonics by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #56 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:22:19 AM EST
but we get the commercials for them, go figure.


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yeah, why is that? by houser2112 (2.00 / 0) #70 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 09:10:08 AM EST
I thought marketroids were more clever than that to waste money advertising to people who can't buy their products.

Although advertisements suck hard in general, they suck even worse when they're irrelevant.

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I've never seen a Sonic around here... by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #57 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 11:48:46 AM EST
but I'll have to try them if I find one. A real vanilla coke or a cherry limeaid sounds excellent. Is their food worthwhile? Thanks for letting me know about them - I know they exist in NCia, at least.
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the food by StackyMcRacky (2.00 / 0) #61 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 02:35:26 AM EST
is better than McDonald's fast food, but that's not saying a whole lot.

they do have tator tots!!

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Mmmm. Tator tots! by toxicfur (2.00 / 0) #66 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:26:54 AM EST
It's a good thing I don't have a fast food restaurant near me, or a deep fryer - my diet would go completely to shit (rather than just moderately to shit). :)
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wipo tiebreak by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #50 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:49:54 AM EST
Ginger ale is roughly equal to tonic for my top preference.

No vodka or gin though, please.

Bitter Lemon ? by Phage (2.00 / 0) #59 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 01:01:08 AM EST


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also nice by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #65 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:19:58 AM EST
But a bit too sweet.

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trouble with multidimensional friends by Arbeit Macht Pie (4.00 / 1) #51 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:51:14 AM EST
I can't say that I have the same experience.
I've an old Army buddy on Earth-43 and once a month, we go hot-tubbing with a couple we know from the Dark Vortex.

Yeah but do their kids get along with yours? by georgeha (4.00 / 1) #52 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:53:49 AM EST
Even the ones from the evil parallel universe?


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We leave the kids at home. by Arbeit Macht Pie (2.00 / 0) #53 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:07:36 AM EST
You know, we usually bring some wine with us and things get a little crazy if you know what I mean, but we always practice safe zszxyeawgeaz.

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in these here parts by StackyMcRacky (2.00 / 0) #55 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:18:59 AM EST
we call carbonated beverages "cokes"

similar to how people call all cotton swabs q-tips and all tissues kleenex.

"what kind of coke do you want?"  "Dr Pepper"

I rarely drink soda anymore by aethucyn (2.00 / 0) #58 Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 04:56:17 PM EST
but I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Polar soda company, particularly their Orange Dry and Raspberry Lime sodas.

I should, as a New Englander, also give a shout out to Moxie, but ugh, Moxie.

Ginger Beer by vorheesleatherface (2.00 / 0) #63 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 03:09:24 AM EST
has grown on me lately.


Henry Weinhard's root beer or cream soda by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #71 Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 11:05:47 AM EST
During prohibition Weinhard's survived by making soda pop. Best Ever.

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