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By aphrael (Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:15:42 PM EST) (all tags)

The audience was tense, an the emcee's jokes fell flat; a more tentative and nervous mood I had never encountered in a classroom before. A screen descended from the ceiling to cover the chalkboard, and a fuzzy powerpoint slide struggled to come into focus. I yawned, and wished I were asleep; sleep had mostly failed me the night before, and my body had been complaining on and off all day.


I had reached the limits of my caffiene tolerance, and orientation had begun.




The first day of orientation for night program participants at $CITY_SCHOOL consisted of two events: an hour long "program overview" placed in a ninety-minute long time slot, and a dinner, replete with guest speaker and forced socializing. (An event I have as of this writing not yet experienced, and have a surprisingly small desire to experience; guest speakers and forced socializing would thrill few people I know. Even without the lack of sleep). The program overview was done by a soft-smoken man with a cautious and somewhat soporific voice; it was amazing that it carried across the room. (Did they spend a fortune on acoustics, I wonder?)

He began with a rhetorical question: "what are you here for?" - that is to say, what do you hope to get out of this experience - and he continued with the note that the two most common answers to that are "to get a JD degree" and "to prepare for the practice of law". (Neither of these would be my answer; degrees are less important to me than knowledge, and I have no clue if I will end up wanting to practice law. What I want is to understnad the law, and through that understanding, to enable myself to be a better citizen; an idealistic answer I suspect would find few takers in a profession reputed to be as lacking in idealism as the law). He continued with an ancillary question: what do you expect law school to be like? Are you excited, or do you expect it to be a long, difficult hurdle? (I'm somewhat excited, and i'm afraid it will be a long, difficult hurdle --- not because of the classroom experience per se, but because of the demands it places on my time, and the stresses it places on the rest of my life). He followed these questions up with an unpleasant clip from the Paper Chase, which made the already tense audience even tenser (a feat I would have thought impossible had I not seen it done).

He then assured us that while we would end up getting law degrees, we would not be prepared to practice law -- a concept I had encountered before, but which he did not fully explain. He spent the rest of the time explaining what a legal education is, and what we should get out of it; but how that education is insufficient to prepare us to practice law, he did not explain.

I'm not convinced he was the best man for the job.

Legal education is not about learning the law, he insisted; for, while we will learn some of the law, it is impossible to learn all of it: there's just too much. The key is learning how to find the law, and having the context to understand and apply it once we've found it. Ok, that makes sense -- and is, in fact, somewhat banal. Of course knowing how to find information is more important than having the information itself; of coure there is more information to be had than can be remembered by anyone. Perhaps this is because i'm a child of the internet age, but this isn't surprising in the slightest; this is normal life, in my world.

He then went off on what it means to 'think like a lawyer', and how this is different from how everyone else thinks; and, to demonstrate this, he explained that many people think law is sort of like math, with well defined formulas which can be applied to get a concrete result -- but, really, it's not; it's possible to have multiple correct answers, obtained by following the same processes after starting with different assumptions. His example of this, drawn from mathematics, was 1 + 1 = x, where x can be either 2 or 10 depending; I laughed (nobody else did).

This is, based on what i've read and what he was saying, a big problem: people come to law school looking for answers and have a hard time accepting that there can be multiple right answers, or none; this doesn't map onto the world as most people interact with it, and it doesn't map onto the education most people get as an undergrduate. (But, again, I find it somewhat normal: of couree answers are different dependant on your starting presumptions, and of course you can solve a problem in multiple different ways and get, potentially, different results. What is the surprise here?)

He then moved on to a discussion of professionalism. It was clear that the school places a high emphasis on "social responsibility" as an outgrowth of ethics and professionalism; this is all to the good, in my book -- although he gave no examples and quickly moved on to his core point: everyone's professional life begins now, and it is important to begin conducting yourself as a professional now ... followed by a list of things that represent professional conduct:  honesty, punctuality, preparation, engagement.

OK, fair point, but can I be forgiven for feeling like I'm on the receiving end of a lecture I don't need? I've been conducting myself as a professional for well over a decade -- admittedly in a different profession, but the things he emphasized here really do apply elsewhere. The difference between a change-of-profession student and a student just out of college really shows here: the things he was holding up as professional behavior that we have to start exercising now are things that have long since been trained into me just by trying to keep people happy and conduct myself ethically in a corporate environment.  And i'm not even sure the lecture would be needed by people fresh out of school, except that if they didn't have experience with people needing it, they wouldn't include it.

He followed the lecture with a reminder that "respect everyone" includes respecting yourself, too, and a reassurance that everyone has something to contribute and not to be too hard on ourselves when we fuck up. (My words, not his). And he reminded us of a point I think is too easily forgotten: at the end of the day, we are responsible for our education, not our professors.

Now, I guess, it's off to dinner.

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serious post-grad education, yes. by iGrrrl (2.00 / 0) #1 Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 10:54:49 PM EST
He spent the rest of the time explaining what a legal education is, and what we should get out of it; but how that education is insufficient to prepare us to practice law, he did not explain.

Hah. That sounds like the reason I never read Dianetics. In the intro, L. Ron tells you that you won't really understand it even after reading the book, so I thought, "Why bother to plow through three hundred pages if the intro is already annnoying?"

A very good friend is going into his second year of law school, having left a tenured medical school professorship. We've had some interesting talks about the differences between thinking like a lawyer and like a scientist.  My first year of grad school was a serious case of learning how to think in an entirely different way.

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hmm. by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:40:35 AM EST
if you've time, i'd be interested in a more detailed summation of those talks. :)

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this is interesting by R343L (2.00 / 0) #2 Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 11:07:13 PM EST
Makes me want to go back to school ... sort of. :)

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot


also, congratulations by R343L (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 11:07:45 PM EST
And I think you'll do well, for what it's worth. :)

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot
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"hundreds of correct answers" by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 11:12:23 PM EST
are law students honestly surprised by that? If law weren't more than math application, the legal field would have died with the advent of computers, or more precisely, have been reduced to a clerical job.

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i have no clue. by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:40:00 AM EST
but a lot of the "how to do well in law school" literature i've read focuses on this point, which suggests that it's a more common problem than you or i might think.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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you weren't the target audience by clover kicker (4.00 / 1) #5 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:45:22 AM EST
He's trying to wake up a bunch of guys who haven't done anything tougher than an undergrad degree.




i suspect that's some of it. by aphrael (4.00 / 1) #8 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:39:17 AM EST
i also suspect that there's a degree to which the night program gets the sloppy seconds, so to speak: the orientation is designed with the FT people in mind and then just rapidly altered and shrunk down for the PT people.

which is not surprising, but a bit disappointing.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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this makes me want to reread to kill a mockingbird by fleece (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 05:24:19 AM EST




education responsibility by garlic (2.00 / 0) #7 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 09:05:12 AM EST
I really saw that in my Master's degree program -- In undergrad engineering, what you'll be learning is planned out for you. You get to choose maybe what 3 of your electives are, and the rest of your classes are requirements. In my grad degree, there was none of this structure.



Colour me a cynic. by theantix (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 03:51:11 PM EST
The concept of "professionalism" (not just in law) always struck me as a way of convincing new folks to act like they deserve the money they'll make so the little people won't resent paying obscene amounts for the profession's services. 
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well by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #12 Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 02:02:37 AM EST
there's also a bit about looking to members of the profession like you belong --- fitting into the club, so to speak.

but there are certain things that you really shouldn't do. lying, for one, is very, very bad, particularly in the legal system.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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