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Nagios - open-sores hobbyist rubbish? or Enterprise ready?

By dmg (Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 04:55:29 PM EST) troll, trollerising, trolling, trollerizing, trolled, troller, trollee (all tags)

It's been a long time since I visted the stinking cesspit that is slashdot.

But its good to know that AC trolling is still possible if you get in early and reply to a "funny" comment...

Not as much fun as in the good old days, and not too many responses, but I could sense I had triggered the cognitive dissonance in a couple of posters.

Anyone else still waste their energy on this somewhat ridiculous pastime?

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(Comment Deleted) by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 05:07:03 PM EST

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Where the fuck did that come from? by Captain Tenille (3.00 / 4) #4 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:10:48 PM EST

You managed to go from talking about programming to your diseased rants about Democrats and left wingers yet again. I'd ask what's wrong with you, but then again we already know what's wrong with you. You left Husi once. Kindly go away again. Take your bullshit elsewhere, asshole.

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Know this by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 3) #5 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:18:17 PM EST

I only leave and come back on my own terms. Not because of totalitarian dictators like you who want to censor my freedom of speech.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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maroon. by garlic (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:24:51 PM EST

signatures are for assholes.
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Is that the best you can do? by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 2) #10 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:04:33 PM EST

I spoke the truth of what happened to me, and how it related to my experience. If you cannot handle the truth, then don't read my comments.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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then I'd have to disable viewing hidden comments. by garlic (4.00 / 1) #17 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:21:05 PM EST

and only yours suck.
signatures are for assholes.
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: That is your option by Orion Blastar (3.00 / 1) #27 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:52:32 PM EST

and I don't care if you take it or not.
"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Unsubstantiated by Cloaked User (3.00 / 1) #29 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:23:01 PM EST

They put mercury and eye drops in my drinking cup in an attempt to make me sicker so I'd leave.

Prove it and I'll believe you.

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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It is part by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #31 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:35:30 PM EST

of my medical history. I got sick and ended up on disability. I cannot prove who poisoned me, but they know that I was poisoned.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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So you can't prove it by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #35 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:57:06 PM EST

So why should I believe you? That's not entirely academic - you mention it, so you clearly want a reaction, or at least for people to take it into account.

No offence, but I'm feeling particularly truculent at the moment. (Assume I add that disclaimer to any comment I make for the next 48 hours or so)

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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: I can only prove it by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #38 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 09:18:09 PM EST

by making my medical record public.
"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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What is there to "censor"? by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:25:18 PM EST

You only ever make one comment:
Blah blah blah I hate Democrats blah blah blah I'm mentally ill blah blah blah the Democrats are to blame for all my problems blah blah blah it's the Democrats fault I'm sick and can't work blah blah blah.
That pretty much sums up everything you've ever said.

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So you say by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 3) #11 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:05:24 PM EST

that I don't have the freedom of speech or rights to talk about how I got this way?

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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You misunderstand how freedom of speech works. by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 3) #16 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:18:33 PM EST

You can spew your conspiracy theories and ranting all you want. Others are under no obligation to listen or to provide you a place to speak. Hope that helped.

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Oh it helped by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 2) #20 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:25:13 PM EST

because I have a place to speak here. I have the freedoms and rights to communicate what happened to me and how it ruined my career and my life.

You and others are under no obligation to listen to me or provide me a place to speak, as I am not speaking to you and I am not posting on your property. Husi is a public place to post, and if you are not an editor or admin, you cannot deny me a place to speak here. Get used to it.

If my comments bother you that much, just ignore them. If I am accused of being a troll, the best thing to do with a troll is to ignore them. You are under no obligations to reply to any of my posts or diaries.

Basically I don't care what you think, and what you say is no more important to me than dust in the wind. Yet you have a right to say it and the freedom to express yourself, and unlike you I'd never take that away from you as you seem to what to take it away from me with threats to drive me off of this web site.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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No. by Cloaked User (4.00 / 2) #30 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:31:39 PM EST

Husi is a public place to post

No, it belongs to Hulver, there's nothing public about it. You (and I) post only at his discretion.

if you are not an editor or admin, you cannot deny me a place to speak here.

No, but we can zero you if we feel like it, and can certainly tell you to fuck off if that's our desire. "Get used to it" - freedom of speech works both ways.

Ditto.

I'd never take that away from you as you seem to what to take it away from me with threats to drive me off of this web site

How exactly can "we" do that? Genuine question - if you don't want to leave, how can any of us make you?

I have no quarrel with you, other than that a lot of what you post appears to me to be a waste of bandwidth (but then I'm sure that many would say the same of me), but you do seem to have something of a chip on your shoulder.

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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Yes by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 2) #33 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:37:51 PM EST

you can force me off Husi by constantly attacking me until the stress makes my mental illnesses act up and I end up doing something that lands me in a hospital again, or dead. Is that what you really want?

How many people who had their careers and lives ruined do you personally know? Would you blame such a person for having a chip on their shoulder?

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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: so you're threatening us by garlic (4.00 / 1) #53 Sat Apr 14, 2007 at 10:48:22 AM EST

by threatening yourself. maroon.
signatures are for assholes.
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: Rhetorical hint by leviramsey (2.00 / 0) #56 Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 03:03:08 AM EST

Beware of the ultimatum...

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Could I be the next Lee Abrams?
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So tell me by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 2) #14 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:12:29 PM EST

how that is different from you and others blaming the Republicans for everything that happened to you people?

Suddenly if the other party is blamed for something, hey let's all attack the victim and call him an asshole and a troll!

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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When exactly by Captain Tenille (2.00 / 1) #19 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:23:24 PM EST

Have I blamed Republicans for everything bad that's ever happened?

No, you're an asshole and a troll because you're a bad person. You may or may not be mentally ill; if you are, then that's too bad, and it doesn't make you a bad person. One of my best friends from high school is schizophrenic. Mocking someone's suicide, however, does make you a bad person (don't think I haven't heard about that). Good day.

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Acutally I am mentally ill by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #21 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:27:45 PM EST

and I have proof of that in real life. All you are doing is discriminating against a mentally ill person like my former employer and coworkers did to me.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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I repeat: by Captain Tenille (2.00 / 1) #23 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:39:53 PM EST

I am not discriminating against you because you claim to be mentally ill; I think you are not a good person for entirely different reasons. You, of course, are free to think otherwise all you want. I won't be able to stop you.

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You think I am not a good person by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #25 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:44:01 PM EST

and you don't even know the real me and my story. Yet I've tried to tell you and you continue to discriminate against me. Every time I tell my true story, I get called an asshole or a troll and get discriminated against yet again.

I am not a good person because I am mentally ill, that is what you are trying to say.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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I'm mentally ill and he buys me drinks. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #41 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 10:03:12 PM EST

HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW, BIATCH?

General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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Tell me your secret by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #42 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 11:14:22 PM EST

on controlling your mental illness to the point that others like you. I seem to be missing how to do that.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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: Wellfuckingbutrin and long drives in the country. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #45 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 12:54:07 AM EST

Try it.
General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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: listen, by garlic (4.00 / 1) #54 Sat Apr 14, 2007 at 10:49:15 AM EST

timonical may be a motherfucker, but he's our motherfucker. You are somebody elses motherfucker.
signatures are for assholes.
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Mocking suicide by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #24 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:41:08 PM EST

the only thing I did was mock my own suicide attempt.

I had gotten a lot of people on Kuro5hin, IWETHEY, Husi, etc telling me to go kill myself. I suffer from schizo affective disorder and depression and was fighting off suicidal thoughts due to all the stress I was under.

So the best way to get those suicidal thoughts out of my system was to do a cyber suicide. The only person I really mocked as myself. It fooled nobody, but it avoided me killing myself for real or going into a hospital.

I am so ill that I am on disability and cannot work. The online communities have no idea of the sort of stress and things they have done to me, which by your definition makes them the bad people for forcing me into suicidal thoughts and doing a mock suicide of myself. I suffer a lot of mental cruelty from people who call themselves so called humanitarians.

I once had a good career and I once made a whole lot of money in that career. Now everything I ever hoped for is gone and there are just very few reasons left for me to live.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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We stress you out we encourage thoughts of suicide by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #32 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:37:07 PM EST

Yet you come back.

Why?

I once had a good career and I once made a whole lot of money in that career. Now everything I ever hoped for is gone and there are just very few reasons left for me to live.

Your career is irrelevant. To live is to experience, to learn, and to influence others (preferably for the good). So, go do that.

No one goes to their death bed thinking "I wish I spent more time in the office".

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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Why? by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #34 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:49:37 PM EST

Because I am trying to learn to adapt, and see if I can go back to the places that have harmed me and start over again. It is hard for me to try to change my own behavior when my illness has control.

Perhaps I thought people here had wizened up and learned from their past mistakes. Yet it doesn't seem to be the case.

What I have learned is to not put value on what negative people like yourself say about me. If I can do that, then it does not hurt as much.

Alas I cannot live and experience and learn and influence others due to the mental illnesses that I have. I am able to learn and experience, and I do want to influence others for the greater good. But I keep being discriminated against because of my mental illnesses, and it keeps me down.

When I did work, I helped others learn how to program, as many were hired with a Comp Sci degree but had problems learning how to program. I trained them and tutored them until they had a better understanding. When I was in college I tutored other students in programming and debugged their programs. Those were happier times for me, but those days are over.

It is hard for me to adjust to this world that discriminates against the mentally ill. Because I am mentally ill and it causes behavior in me, I often get the wrong ideas people make about me. There is a stigmata against the mentally ill in that we are the type to be assholes, or trolls, or bad people, because he have behavior that the mental illness creates that we have a hard time controlling. It is noticeable even on the Internet.

If I could be free of these mental illnesses I would be happier. But there is no cure. No hope. Just people who discriminate against me and confuse my mental illness for sanity. Yet I've been out of work since 2002 and my family have suffered for that too. Very few here have even bothered to try to see things from my point of view, and most don't and accuse me of being an asshole or troll without ever seeing things from my point of view or walking a mile in my shoes.

I don't even know why I considered giving Husi a second chance, or that I wouldn't be discriminated against again. I thought Husi had matured and grown up, guess I was wrong?

I had hoped to see Michael Crawford still posting on here, but like me he seems to have left due to discrimination against his mental illnesses. Which establishes a pattern with certain Husi members.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Negative people like me? by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #36 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 09:02:27 PM EST

You have me all wrong. I have my demons, and I have mostly caged them. Mostly. I would help, yet you wear your supposed illness like a badge, using it as a reason to act as you do.

These few messages are the first time I remember ever responding to you, yet already you write me off as an enemy. So be it.

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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You wrote to me before by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #37 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 09:17:11 PM EST

last time I was here, but you've forgotten.

I am not writing you off as an enemy, just someone who doesn't understand me yet. Your few posts currently do have a negative effect on me, so that is why I thought you were a negative person. I guess with all the others attacking me in this thread I sort of get used to the idea of everyone here ganging up on me. Sorry about that, it is my paranoia talking.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Obssessive by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #39 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 09:29:35 PM EST

If even I have forgotten, then you are obsessing more than is even remotely reasonable.

We're not ganging up on you, we just have highly tuned bullshit detectors, and right now mine is off the scale; I've known genuinely ill people, and you just don't feel right.

Oh, and I most certainly am a negative person, but I haven't even begun to be negative towards you yet (ok, apart from maybe that last sentence). I simply don't believe you - schizo affective disorder I'll take on trust, but your employer poisoning you and you not suing? Bullshit.

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This is not a psychotic episode. It is a cleansing moment of clarity.
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: My employer was a law firm by Orion Blastar (2.00 / 1) #43 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 11:31:01 PM EST

with the best lawyers in town. I have schizo affective disorder and that discredits anything I have to say about them, because the illness create delusions. My poisoning belief might be one of the delusions that my illness creates. Since it can be proven in court that schizo affective people suffer from delusions, they cannot take anything I say even if I can back it up.
"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Also by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 1) #8 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:26:33 PM EST

I am not an administrator or editor here. I will not be "censoring" your precious "speech".

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Good for that by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 3) #12 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:06:16 PM EST

only ethical and fair people should be editors and admins here anyway. You obviously are not qualified.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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again I say: maroon. by garlic (4.00 / 1) #18 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:22:57 PM EST

signatures are for assholes.
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: Which is a term used to by Orion Blastar (1.00 / 3) #22 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:29:46 PM EST

discriminate against a mentally ill person.
"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Classic by Bob Abooey (4.00 / 4) #2 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 05:07:39 PM EST

The good ol "Senior Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company" troll!

Next to the "former lead for the BSD kernel dev team" troll that was my favourite.

Warmest regards,
--Your best pal Bob

How's my blogging: Call me at 209.867.5309 to complain.

The thing is by jump the ladder (4.00 / 3) #47 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 04:30:39 AM EST

dmg is actually senior vice president of a major financial institution. That bit wasn't a troll...

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: Now now. by dmg (4.00 / 1) #51 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 03:34:01 PM EST

Don't go "outing"me :-)
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Ain't no time for crossing over, from the PM to the dawn!
Maggotron is gonna rock them, Maggotron has got the bomb!
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I still troll at k5 by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #3 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 05:34:57 PM EST

but somedays I suspect I'm being trolled, or they're all Egil. Slashdot I read, and post occasionally.

K5? by Bob Abooey (4.00 / 3) #9 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 06:40:17 PM EST

Yeah - I used to troll over there - but, well, you know, those are some odd guys over there - have you seen them, heh, those are a bunch of bald headed crackers over there at K5.

Warmest regards,
--Your best pal Bob

How's my blogging: Call me at 209.867.5309 to complain.
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: Every once in a while by wiredog (4.00 / 2) #50 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 08:24:51 AM EST

One of them comes here. That guy who's claiming mental illness (his username is "Urinal Blaster" or something like that) as a good reason to be a dick over here, for instance. His troll-fu is weak.
My latest k5 troll is still hanging on in the queue, and getting some nice bites.

Earth First!
_{(We can strip mine the rest later.)}
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I'm very disappointed in you by clover kicker (4.00 / 2) #13 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:07:15 PM EST

I noticed that post and assumed it was some amateur recycling old trolls.

Nothing like classic trolls by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 2) #15 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:17:15 PM EST

recycle reuse renew, because the new trolls use way too much CO2. Gotta save the planet you know. :)

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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I admit by dmg (4.00 / 1) #26 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 07:48:07 PM EST

That was no "is your son a computer hacker" or "oh how I envy american students" but in a sense that's the great thing about it. One can spend 30 seconds on an inferior troll and waste whole minutes of other people's time.

Slashbots don't deserve quality trolling...
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Ain't no time for crossing over, from the PM to the dawn!
Maggotron is gonna rock them, Maggotron has got the bomb!
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Sometimes a troll can be created by Orion Blastar (3.00 / 3) #28 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:00:07 PM EST

without even meaning to create a troll. Anything that talks about commercial verses open source programming is going to be a lightning rod for trolls and trolling.

Why just try to compare right-wing people with left-wing people, instant troll. Politics is a good lightning rod for trolls and trolling as well.

My good friend, Michael Crawford, who suffers from schizo affective disorder like I do, just writes his diaries on Kuro5hin and posts his thoughts like I do, and we both get accused of being trolls and trolling because we both have mental illnesses and it makes people think we are bad people or assholes or trolls, but really it is the schizo affective disorder that has us post that way. I've tried to not post that way, and it is very hard. But the schizo affective disorder distorts reality, causes paranoia, and sometimes conspiracy theories, etc. Michael and I agree that a thought police exists. I can show by the number of people that attack me recently on Husi because I mentioned what left-wingers and Democrats did to me, that there is a conspiracy here against people who speak out against left-wingers and Democrats. Yet if someone speaks out against right-wingers and Republicans, they are not treated the way I am treated.

Anyway it is very hard not to create a troll on various subjects.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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I read Mike's stuff on another site. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #40 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 09:43:19 PM EST

He seems pretty fucking normal there, so don't drag his name into this shit.

General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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Mike begs to differ by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #44 Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 11:36:50 PM EST

and claims that he had had hardships with his illness as I have had with mine.

If you don't believe Mike or myself that this sort of behavior happens with schizoaffective people, you can read more about it at WebMD with their article on schizoaffective disorder.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Yeah, whatever. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #46 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 12:58:01 AM EST

Read this and then get back to me about how he's crazy.

General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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: That is not him by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #49 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 08:14:17 AM EST

that is not one of his web sites. That is a different Michael Crawford.
This is the Michael Crawford I am talking about Michael D. Crawford, not Michael W. Crawford. Writer of the Vancouver Diaries developer of Ogg Frog Artist of Geometric Visions and sufferer of schizoaffective disorder that found a way to not let it get him down.
Ask yourself why he isn't posting on here anymore, he was supposed to post his Vancouver Diaries here and on K5, but stopped posting them here. What did you guys do to him?
"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium
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Son, by gazbo (4.00 / 1) #48 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 04:47:55 AM EST

I think Onion Blaster has one-upped you. Or possibly ten-upped you.

"Engarde!" cried the larvae, huskily. - Scrymarch

: What are you saying? by dmg (4.00 / 1) #52 Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 05:54:08 PM EST

Orion Blastar has mental health issues - is that so hard to understand?
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Ain't no time for crossing over, from the PM to the dawn!
Maggotron is gonna rock them, Maggotron has got the bomb!
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Open source software by Orion Blastar (4.00 / 1) #55 Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 10:56:03 PM EST

depends on the people writing the software, the same for commercial software. I've seen bad examples of both and I've seen good examples of both.

It is all in who you hired to write the code and how good they are. If they are sloppy and don't do garbage collection or watch pointers or objects to see if they are closed out or freed up the memory they use after they used them, then that can sink any software commercial or open source.

Trust me I worked with commercial programmers like that and I had to keep putting out the fires they created and the fires that management created because they didn't understand how technology and programming really works. I had to clean up their code and I worked so hard that it put a lot of stress on me. I was abused that way by management and been forced into fixing other people's mistakes to the point that it was mostly what I was doing all day and not have enough time left to write my own projects. Naturally after they fired me, for getting too sick due to the mental and physical abuse I was under that caused mental and physical illnesses, all of their projects suffered and crashed their servers and workstations because they did nothing but sloppy code and nobody was left to clean up their messes and fight those fires for them. They begged me to go back to work, but I was not medically cleared to work anymore.

"I drank what?" - Socrates after drinking the Conium

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