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By Kellnerin (Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 05:58:31 PM EST) WFC, WFC Book, WFC Anthology, killing trees on demand fun challenge (all tags)
The long-promised post about collecting WFCs One through Five into book form.

Within, some thoughts, questions, and opinions sought from both writers and potential readers. Read and vote in our exciting publishing-oriented poll!


I'M GOING TO DO THIS in FAQ form, even if the only person who's been asking these questions frequently is me. The answers below are a proposal, an outline, a gameplan, a whatever -- nothing is set in stone.

What will be in the WFC book?
For each WFC:

  1. The original challenge post
  2. selected stories (see below)
  3. no postmortems, though possibly a list of URLs to them, with the permission of the author(s)

Which stories will be included?
There are a few options for deciding which stories go in the book (see poll):

  1. In the spirit of "the more the merrier" and creating a historical record of the challenges themselves, anyone who wants their story in the book, gets it in the book. I'll PM the authors with a list of their WFC entries, and the writers can give the yay or nay for each story they've submitted. If, within a reasonable period (say, a month), I haven't heard anything from an author, his/her stories will be omitted by default. By this system (or actually any system), if a story was submitted anonymously and the author hasn't owned up to it, it's also out by default.
  2. The other choices are all meant to produce some subjective version of the "Best of the WFCs." The "People's Choice" option would include the top N entries according to the official poll (or alternately, all but the bottom M stories).
  3. Stories are chosen by an editorial board consisting of the winners (assuming they want to participate). For the first five WFCs, these were: Christopher Robin was Murdered, fleece, 2 plus 3 equals 5, persimmon, me, and 256.
  4. Someone mentioned in an earlier discussion on the topic, just having one editor decide which stories are in or out, and then ask permission from the selected authors. They called this editor-person "Kellnerin," for some reason.
All options are subject to the writer giving permission to use it in the book. I know I've asked WFC1 and WFC2 authors about this already, but I'll poll again before finalizing this, just in case.

I wrote a story that's being included in the book. What happens next?
I (Kellnerin) will go through all the stories and edit for typos, grammar, and formatting only. Otherwise, all stories will be printed exactly as you submitted them to the Writing Fun Challenge. I'll also do the page layout.

Before printing, you'll have a chance to review your stor[y|ies] (probably at the layout stage, via PDF) in order to make sure I haven't accidentally introduced an error, or missed something. You can also pull your story at this point, for whatever reason ("I can't believe you set my prose in fucking Bembo!")

What about copyright and all that legal stuff?
I'm all for intellectual property in theory, but on the other hand I feel pretty weird copyrighting something in the name of "Kellnerin." So, I propose that the stories be published under a Creative Commons Attribution, Noncommercial, No Derivatives license.

Or we could use traditional copyright under the appropriate pseudonyms (no real author names will be used), but it should all be one or the other. Authors please see poll, and/or the PM asking whether you want to be included.

Are there going to be illustrations?
Yes -- spacejack has offered to create a (black-and-white) illustration for the winning story from each round, at the author's option. These'll appear in the book (again with the author's permission), either as an opening illustration or embedded somewhere within the story. If you've won a WFC, either post here or contact spacejack directly to redeem your coupon, and let him know if you have any thoughts about what you'd like (or wouldn't like) to see in the illustration.

Will the cover entries be used?
Since the cover designs were submitted for each round, they don't really work for the anthology as a whole (also, every cover submitted had different dimensions, most of which will probably not fit the actual book). I'll see how well they work in black-and-white so we can reproduce them inside the book, maybe as thumbnails. Or maybe on the back cover or something. All is uncertainty in this area of the WFCs. Click some poll boxes, please.

Meanwhile, spacejack'll work up something new for the book's actual cover -- stay tuned.

How will it be produced?
Right now, I'm looking at using Lulu, unless anyone has a compelling alternative. It'll (most likely) be a 6" x 9" paperback. Color cover, black-and-white interior.

You left out the most important part -- $$money$$
The book will be made available at cost (plus whatever Lulu charges for shipping) so that anyone who wants one should be able to get one. In the event that you're desperate to get a copy and can't afford one, we'll appeal to the community to make that happen; it can also be made available by download in digital form -- but you can already read all the stories online, so I don't know if that has very much appeal.

Since the main audience for the book will probably be the contributors, it doesn't make much sense to charge any markup. Also, I think if the profit should go anywhere, it should be to hulver, but once Lulu and Paypal have taken their cut, I don't know that there'd be enough left over to make it worthwhile. So unfortunately, no one will be making any money from this (though if you have a couple bucks to spare, I'd encourage people to give hulver some Paypal love for making all this possible).

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- postmortem URLs should be listed in the book 0%
- leave the postmortem wankery out altogether 64%
- -- 0%
- anyone who wants their story to be included should be in 41%
- inclusion to be decided by the WFC poll 23%
- committee of WFC winners decides 17%
- Kellnerin decides 23%
- I thought of another option ... 5%
- -- 0%
- covers should be printed in the book, in black and white 11%
- thumbnails of the winning covers should be on the back cover, in color 64%
- leave the covers out 11%
- -- 0%
- a digital version would be cool 35%
- a digital version would be pointless 35%
- a digital version would be downright bad 0%
- -- (WFC contributors only, please) -- 0%
- Creative Commons copyright is OK by me 64%
- I want my "All Rights Reserved" 5%

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I think a book is a great idea, by toxicfur (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 06:19:35 PM EST
and I've voted in the poll for all but the post-mortem link thingie. I don't really have a preference on that, though if pushed, I'd probably say no. Even though the post-mortems are often as entertaining as the stories, I have a bias against "authorial intent" type writing, and I probably wouldn't punch in the urls from a written text anyway.

I do rather strongly feel (and not just because my stories haven't gotten a huge number of votes) that, with the author's permission, any story submitted to the WFC should go into the book. Part of what I like about the *FCs is seeing how a diverse group of people respond to a particular theme in incredibly diverse ways. That would be lost if only a subset (based on any logical criteria) were included.

I like the idea of including covers on the back, though I don't think that's crucial. I also like the notion of Creative Commons for something like this, though once again, I don't have a strong feeling. If more people wanted to have traditional copyrights on their stories, I wouldn't be opposed to that.

This is a pretty big project, and kudos to you for organizing it/being willing to put it together.
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yeah, by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #5 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:09:42 PM EST
I agree on the postmortems -- they're a big part of the experience, for me, of actually doing the WFCs and following the various stories ... but they'd feel out of place in a printed volume. Especially since they vary a lot in format, and many of them are mainly responses to the comments made while the authors were anonymous. I do like the occasional short blurbs that are included in anthologies that give a hint of what an author thinks about a piece, or where it came from -- but in the end a good story stands on its own (and a weak one isn't saved by explanations outside of the story ...) You're right that printed URLs are probably not very useful (though books have 'em anyway). I guess the poll option is me wimping out on my decision to exclude them altogether.

I also always enjoy the diversity of entries to any one WFC, though the point was made in an earlier diary that it might be interesting to make the book something other than a hard copy of the WFCs (which are still available, unedited, for anyone to peruse). Possibly a "best of" volume would appeal to people who haven't taken the time to read all of the entries and vote. I find myself wavering between the different visions of what the book could be, myself.

I really like the idea of a CC license myself, but I think if there's even a significant minority wanting traditional copyrights, that'd win. But since this was all for fun in the first place (says so right on the label!) I hope a looser copyright will win out.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Maybe... by ana (4.00 / 2) #8 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:16:19 PM EST
hulver would spring for a file in "special" or wherever linking to all the post-mortems. That way, one relatively simple url, almost human-readable.

Regular, or decaf abomination? --Kellnerin
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Yep by hulver (4.00 / 1) #34 Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 05:19:58 PM EST
That's no problem. Can do better than that. A short url (hulver.com/wfcbook) that re-directs to a page.
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yay, a FAQ by BlueOregon (4.00 / 1) #2 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 06:20:05 PM EST

Or something FAQ-like. FAQesque.

You'll PM people or a cabal or such will choose entries. That's fine. Assuming the first option (they all get in -- "the more the merrier"), I would say, include mine from WFC2-WFC5 (since I didn't do WFC1). You've said you'd do the editorial work; I've already proofed some of my entries post-WFC and would submit those copies for you to edit / typeset as you see fit.

A 6"x9" paperback sounds nice. I'd probably buy one. The Creative Commons bit sounds fine at this point.

To conclude: Yay, book project!

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"The german quoting guy is a little bit out there." (fleece)


The book of Kell's! by yicky yacky (4.00 / 4) #3 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 06:47:53 PM EST

I have very little to contribute to this subject, but just wanted to use that title for a comment.


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I don't know by Kellnerin (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:10:56 PM EST
whether to 4 you or 1 you ...

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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More seriously by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #15 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 08:28:02 AM EST

I'm generally with the mighty Merekat on this: I've only entered two of the challenges, but have a fairly "do (or don't) what you like" attitude to those two pieces.


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Comments by spacejack (4.00 / 1) #4 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:01:15 PM EST
Regarding the license - if everyone's good with CC, that's cool (I'm fine with releasing the artwork under whichever license the book winds up under.) If not, you might find it easier to release it copyrighted by each story's author - then each author has the option to license their story elsewhere however they choose.

Once I found out what size the book was being printed at, I started thinking that a very simple style of line art (simpler and more graphic than the kind of stuff I've been doing lately) might work best. Perhaps intertwined with the story title, using a consistent style and typeface throughout - like you might see in old fashioned books.

I'll be very careful not to be too spoilery. I'm also leaning away from depicting specific scenes from the stories. But I could be swayed in various directions, nothing is decided yet.



Stuff. by ana (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:14:27 PM EST
[1] Yay!

[2] I'm fine with the CC license.

[3] You may use any of my stories. I kind of like the "more the merrier" scenario, and not just because my stories didn't go over all that well with the voting public.

[4] Pictures! Yay!

[5] Did I mention Yay? Also, comma, thanks for the heavy lifting part of this project.

[6] I also like including the challenge. Toasted Cheese, to name one example, posts their contest winners without posting the prompt, which is fine, I suppose, but leaves one wondering why all the stories involve a play within a play on the shortest night of the year or whatever.

[7] Yay!

Regular, or decaf abomination? --Kellnerin


and things! by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #9 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 07:48:05 PM EST
It doesn't make sense to me to publish the stories without the context in which they were created. One story on its own, yeah, should be judged based on whether it works as a story regardless of the criteria set, but as a collection ... one might think that the entire Husi writing community got bit by some incurable punning disease. Besides, some of the challenge posts were pretty creative, themselves.

Re: "more the merrier" vs. more filtered -- there's only one option that's based on the polls! I'm hoping the poll-based option doesn't win, but mainly because that would require setting values of N (or M, or some other threshold). I've languished in the voting cellar myself, but I'd be OK with my less-popular entries being cut.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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thoughts on the subject by 256 (4.00 / 2) #10 Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 09:48:31 PM EST
What will be in the WFC book?

i've always liked when short story collections included some sort of editorial material particular to each story. maybe the post mortems aren't a good fit, but there is a lot of information there for an editor to mine for good forewords.

Which stories will be included?

frankly, at the risk of sounding like a dick, i think that options two through four are superior to the "the more the merrier" approach. there have been good wfc stories and there have been bad wfc stories. in most cases, people who have entered the contest have submitted stories that fit into both categories (excepting CRwM). i think that if you are going to the trouble of collecting them in a book it should, at least in some sense, be a "best of".

personally, i like the idea of editorial selection (by one editor or several). but another idea that occured to me that would be nice and inclusive would be to take the top N stories from each WFC and then, for any author that had submitted but not had at least one story qualify by that means, select their highest voted piece (or have the editor select their best piece).

I wrote a story that's being included in the book. What happens next?

i demand the ability to perform a moderate to heavy revision on any story of mine that may get selected.

What about copyright and all that legal stuff?

is there a big problem with the idea of using human names instead of nicks? furthermore, well i'm with the idea of CC, it might make more sense to instead ask the authors to grant you First Print Rights in the standard manner, so that each story can go on to whatever future the author may have in mind for it. of course, the editorial content of the compilations could still be CC.

How will it be produced?

hmm... i'm kind of anti-lulu, but don't have a better suggestion. so unless someone else does, i guess they will do.

"You left out the most important part -- $$money$$"

you mean nobody except lulu will be making any money off of it. i for one am in favor of setting the cover price such that at least a couple of books from each printing can go to the old beer and strippers fund. we all owe hulver rather a lot.

my two pesos.
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Hmmm by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #14 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 08:22:54 AM EST

i demand the ability to perform a moderate to heavy revision on any story of mine that may get selected.

I can't agree with that; it doesn't strike me as either being "in the spirit of" the WFCs, or having much point to it; otherwise, what exactly is this a collection of? "My patched-up story ideas".

No: I say they go in exactly "as-is" with minor third-party tidy-ups, or they don't go in at all.


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I have to agree with yy by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:33:15 AM EST
At first (waaaay back with the first WFC) I thought, "Yeah, it's these people's work, and they should have a chance to 'fix' it before it's committed to print" but I soon came to think that it made a lot more sense to preserve the stories as they were posted, with only minor corrections. I mean, it's understood that this was a "fun challenge" and we were all working under limitations. If you don't like the story "as is," then pull it from the collection.

If you think there's a brilliant story lurking in that raw material, given extensive revisions, I say submit the new version to a real lit mag, one that might even pay.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Forewards by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #16 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 09:34:20 AM EST
Perhaps the anonymous and inevitably deprecating self-reviews of stories could be used as forwards. They are fairly punchy and cryptic if you haven't read the story. Fleece suggested something like this.

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo
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interesting idea, by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:41:05 AM EST
though not everyone who wrote stories did self-reviews. I do think fleece had a cool idea with putting them all together for our collective amusement, but it seems to fall more into the meta-wankery that's best kept on the site rather than in the book. (i.e., I feel it loses something outside of the context of participating in/following the WFC as it unfolds, and would become a sort of in-joke that'd be sort of opaque to a non-WFCer reading the book.)

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Probably right. by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #21 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:45:34 AM EST


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thoughts on the thoughts by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #22 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:42:58 AM EST
Forewords
I'd thought of having either a summary of each round of WFC as a whole or something short about each story. I like forewords in anthologies, or short writer's statements that go with a particular story, but the postmortems aren't quite right for it. It would (or could, depending on execution) be a "value-add," but who's going to create this editorial content?

I don't want to ask all the writers to come up with a pithy blurb for each story that'll be included -- that strikes me as more punishment than reward. I could take a shot at putting together something brief drawn from postmortems, but not all entries have been postmorted. As far as writing stuff from scratch, I don't feel entirely comfortable doing that (and I'm not sure that anyone wants to read my blather anyway). I suspect the only people likely to step up for this task (if there are any) will be WFC participants themselves, and thus have the same issues of (lack of) objectivity.

Actually, despite titling this section "Foreword," if there were editorial comments on the stories I'd be inclined to put them in the back, so that a reader can enjoy the story by itself first, then read more about it if they wish.

Selection
The "everyone gets in at least one" (however the "best of" is decided) idea is good; I wish I'd thought of it myself (or maybe I had, and forgotten it). Thanks for suggesting it.

Revision
See my reply to yicky yacky.

Copyright
Well, I know at least one person expressed a concern early on that his/her real name not be used. Others may feel the same way, but the idea of not using a nick might not have occured to them. I think it's quite common (and understandable) for people want to keep their RL and online personas separate at least to some extent, and not have the identities publicly linked. Since we're all connected to our stories pseudonymously already, it seems to make sense to keep it that way.

The "first print" option is basically traditional copyright, yeah. I'll accept that as the default if there's any controversy on this point. CC just seems in the spirit of the WFC, and the files are all online anyway.

Lulu
Well, yeah. I'm open to other options, but Cafepress seems to be more expensive (and I'm not sure if that would answer your objection). I'd actualy love to use a traditional printer for a short run (which might also have the option of a color insert or similar) but I'm wary of committing to maintaining inventory and handling shipping/fulfillment for this operation. And I'm fairly sure that would turn out to be more expensive in the end.

Money
Well, Lulu makes very little if you don't set the price so as to make a profit for yourself. I'm sure they pad what they quote as the "production cost" (not to mention "shipping and handling") so they're not giving this stuff away for free, but I think they're counting on people using their service to want to make money off of it, which is where they take a (20%) cut. Paypal fees are less (I believe), so why not donate to hulver directly? (I know, it is easier to have it be built into a book that people are already buying rather than rely on them to make a separate donation, and Paypal itself is some level of evil, but still).

I was hoping to keep the price as low as possible so as to make it accessible to as many people as possible (many of whom will probably have to pay nontrivial shipping fees), but after the content is finalized, depending on what the cost of the book turns out to be, we could maybe do another poll on how much people are willing to pay for such a thing.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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hmm... by 256 (4.00 / 1) #30 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:28:17 PM EST
maybe the forewords (or afterwords) could be shuffled around the contributors, each person with a story in the book taking it upon themselves to write a blurb for one other story. then again, i don't know if other people would really consider that as much of a value-add as i would.

as per the revision, fine, but i stick my tongue out at you.

my usual writing style is to put down a first draft straight through with very little editing and then come back to it (usually a couple of months later) for a single mother of a revision.

obviously, my wfc entries have always missed out on that revision. but if you want them still covered in their own afterbirth, so be it.
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Think of the trees ! by Phage (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:32:51 AM EST
I read on the train, so a digital download in Plucker format (YMMV) would be my choice. I'd be happy to make a paypal donation in either case.

Founder member Golgafrinchan 'B' Ark


digital by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:48:46 AM EST
I think Lulu will do PDF downloads. I've never found PDF to be a particularly fun format to read (print from, sure; on screen, no). If there's enough demand, and if someone can point me to a good howto or docs, I might undertake pluckerization.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Not done it myself, by Phage (4.00 / 1) #28 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 12:15:33 PM EST
But there are a few converting tools around.

Founder member Golgafrinchan 'B' Ark
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thanks for the link by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #29 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 12:38:13 PM EST
No promises, but I'll keep it in mind.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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opinion by Merekat (4.00 / 2) #12 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 04:35:40 AM EST
If any of mine make the cut, do what you will with them as long as it doesn't substantially change them. Once I've put something on the public internet, I consider it fair game.

I approve of the profit to Hulver idea.



profit by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #24 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:50:00 AM EST
See my reply to 256. Might revisit pricing and the profit question once we've a better idea of what this thing will look like, and more importantly, cost.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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yeah by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #26 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:55:01 AM EST
But it would be nice to have agreement of that in principle, up front. In case, say, an unexpected profit was made by stalkers buying lots of copies;)

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which stories are included.... by fleece (4.00 / 1) #13 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:02:00 AM EST
2), then 3). So husi users will rank the stories, and the ed. board will choose the cut-off point.



another good idea by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:52:01 AM EST
One thing I don't like about the poll-based option is that it'd be hard to fix a threshold that works for all the WFCs. So having the committee decide the cut-off per WFC would work for me, in that scenario.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Great idea by TPD (4.00 / 1) #17 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:20:00 AM EST
I guess I'd favour a best of approach - even if (or maybe because) that automatically rules out my one feeble WFC effort.

Can't wait to see what the ludicrously talented mr Jack comes up with for the illustrations!

Rock Hard Abs are just a sw-sw-swivel away!


How long? by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:21:28 AM EST
Big project ... I've got a feeling you're not going to throw together any sort of punk rock slapdash version either.

The winners should all go in.

Beyond that it's tough. Do you want a showcase, or every child gets a prize? There's a number of entrants I think of as part of the wfc process who haven't set the voting alight. And yeah, I guess my own vanity is one of the things I have in mind.
Seeing as this is a small print run for a small community, rather than the launching point for a new literary magazine, I'd lean towards an inclusivity, probably with a board, if people have the time. I don't have a very good sense of the space constraints - if 60k is a short-sized novel, that should be 20-30+ wfc stories?

Besides which, the voting is always both a small electorate and a massive spread. I tend to interpret that as pretty varied tastes across the readership. I don't think voting is a great metric beyond the top one or two.

I guess I can go with or without pseudonym depending on the whim of the mob.

If you're using Lulu, won't you have to put an electronic version together anyway?

Some of the cover images are on shaky copyright ground. Just from my efforts, I think WFC5 should be excluded, but the photo of St Mary's Axe (the Gherkin) is from wikimedia.

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo


I'm really not punk rock by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #27 Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 12:06:49 PM EST
... however the book turns out.

I agree a Scoop multi-select poll isn't the most scientific of processes, but it's the most objective (or widely subjective) version we have that's practical.

As for space/length ... I think with POD we're pretty flexible as far as page count (moreso than with traditional book printing/binding). Hard to do a page estimate as the stories vary in length and each one starts on a new page, so it's not comparable to most novels. Length is only an issue in regards to cost (but the incremental cost of any one story is so small that it shouldn't enter into editorial decisions).

Yeah, a digital version will exist by default. I just wasn't sure if anyone would actually be interested in it. Seems people are, so it's easy to make it available in at least PDF form, and possibly others, depending on demand and ability to create them.

Covers should be cleared with creators before use, and will. Good point.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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Come now by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #31 Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 12:11:13 AM EST
There's a little Jello Biafra inside each and every one of us, screaming at our imperialist suppression of the mailman, and making sardonic insights about our bosses. Surely.

The polls are probably good starting points. But I think if you follow a raw metric, like the top half of every contest, I'd guess you'll probably need some editorial intervention to keep some aesthetic balance.

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo
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OMG i just thought of something else important by fleece (2.00 / 0) #32 Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 06:58:49 AM EST
the stories would be published under our real name, right?



I don't by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #33 Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 10:41:47 AM EST
know most of your real names ... and I wasn't planning on using them. (See the "Copyright" section of my reply to 256. I know some people are OK with, or would maybe prefer, real names, but if others would rather remain psuedonymous, I think that we should respect that.

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"If a tree is impetuous in the woods, does it make a sound?" -- aethucyn
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