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By duxup (Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 12:39:45 AM EST) (all tags)
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LOTS of info on our house buying adventure.  House all but closed on.
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House Hunting 5

So after my last update the realtor’s daughter (presumably was going to look at our house and possibly buy it from us) never called or showed.  I’m guessing the realtor’s daughter didn’t think too much of the plan an just decided not showing up would tell us something.  Anyway so our last offer on the house sat out there for a week. 

Then someone else made an offer.  11 big smackers more than us.  We lost right? 

Nope.  The new offer buyers made the offer contingent on selling their home first.  The sellers who had accepted SEVERAL such offers and had them all fall thru as other people’s houses turned out to a) not sell quickly  b) not sell quickly for the over estimated price the buyers wanted to sell their own home for.  They’re frustrated, they’ve been out of the home for 6 months, they desperately want their furniture they left in it for showing.  I'm sure are tired of making two payments.

Apparently this frustrated the sellers of the home we were interested in and they called and said “was your last offer still good?”  “yup”   “deal”.   So we got it but without the complicated real-estate deal that would have rid us of our home in the same process.  It is hardly the end of the world as I have saved my pennies and we can carry both homes for a great deal of time.

Also I’m not at all above selling my home at the low market prices right now.  We got an outstanding deal on the new home and I’m not going to pretend that in a market that would allow such a good deal that I’m going to make bucko bucks on my own :P  I’m not going to just dump it of course.  At the same time I’m not going to waste time tossing it on the market at prices that we saw when looking at home and made us think “Is it even worth making an offer if they’re going to ask this much?  What planet are these people from?”

So the inspection of the house was done today.  No issues, like we knew the house has a new roof, new hot water heater, has some stuff we really like such as a built in humidifier and etc.  I know most houses have “good folks” who lived in the house and took care of the home, something like the equivalent of the old lady who drove the car to church only on Sundays, but you get the feeling these people really liked their home and took care of everything.   Heck even if they didn’t I think it is a great deal on the house.

Also the nice folks are letting us dump our crap in the garage before the closing so we can easily show our house without much clutter.  Obviously it is their right to say “no way”.  Some folks might have been miffed that they sold it at such a price but they’re cool with it as long as we’re ok that the big huge rainbow playground set that dominates the back yard might stay until spring because it is HUGE and before they can get it apart the ground might be frozen.  I kinda want to go down the slide anyway…

Mortgage Hunt

In the meantime the mortgage hunt heats up as closing is first week of December.  Need to make the call there soon.

Looking for 30 year fixed rate (I like predictable things) mortgage.

I contacted several banks and a mortgage broker.  Some gave me rates that convinced me they don’t want any new mortgages.  Others who I expected to give bad rates (at least when I checked in the past) surprised me.  I contacted some small local banks as the father in law is involved in a independent bank and although his bank is not doing a lot of mortgages (basically set their rates to not do so) right now he’d be happier if we went with such a bank. 

One local independent bank has beat them all so far not by a ton, but not an irrelevant amount.  They appear to be the front runners and after I go thru the rest of their good faith estimate and get some answers to some Qs (nothing surprising on there, just verification of some stuff).  I think we’ll go with them. 

The small bank reports that their loan folks do have the ability to shop the offer to other banks like a broker.  How loyal to their bank they are is beyond me but so far they’ve beaten the other broker I talked to so there you go.  We’ll see if that offer is with their bank or not before we make the call.  Their rates are not quite as low as some of the rate quoting websites out there, but unlike those rate quoting websites these people are NOT some company I have never heard of and who I can’t find out much about. 

Their rate did tick up a bit this week as he predicted when I spoke to the loan guy last week but it is still lower than the others by a reasonable amount.  Other banks also had their rates tick up a bit as they were hoping the fed was going to lower the long term rate or so they say.

Mortgage Escrow

Many places like to give you a break on your mortgage if you escrow the taxes into your mortgage payment.  I don’t mind it, not that I couldn’t just pay it myself and I’m sure they like keeping my money for me before giving it to the gov but I’m cool with that.

Oddly everyone’s good faith estimate seems to note insurance costs.  That’s fine, it is certainly a consideration.  I’m not going to escrow it but it is good to have it there.

However, the insurance quote from my insurance folks and the one in everyone’s good faith estimate tend to have a great deal of distance between them.  Not sure what is up with that.  Need to find out.

Title Insurance

I understand the concept.  I just need to understand it a bit better so I can apparently shop around for it.  Apparently you can do that… and my house buying for dummies I think says I should.  Like I need MORE to do during this process.

New House Plans

The good news is the new house does NOT need a lot of work.  Really everything is totally functional, it’s just a matter of our (well the wife’s, I could live in a cave…) style not jiving quite with some parts of the house. 

I have convinced the wife that the more ambitious plan waits until the old home is sold.  That thing being putting a door between the master bedroom and the master bath.  Here’s what I mean+

+I hope that works husi's usual system wasn't working for me.

Ok so there’s no door there between the master bedroom and the master bathroom.  Seriously, wtf?  Nobody is allowed to use the toilet until that is fixed damn it.  Seriously, I know I’m newly married and sensate to this stuff, but man….  I mean when he or she is sleeping you’re in there.  Weird.  Granted that img is way scrunched and there’s more space between the closets and the master bath but no door.  Seriously the inspector nor the real estate lady thought it was weird.  WTF! 

We're committed to going down the hall to use the other bathroom damn it!  We're not savages damn it.

The other thing is the basement has this wood paneling.  On inspection it is solid wood paneling that is beveled and all.  Inspector says it is expensive stuff.  Gives the basement a rustic cabin feel with all these walls covered in wood and wood knots.  If it was dark wood like some old English mansion I’d love it.   No, it’s HIGHLY lacquered (or whatever) and has a very GOLD color to it. 

“Dear Minnesotans, I know we all like the cabin feel.  Please keep it out of your dang suburban homes.  It’s the suburbs, give it up, buy a cabin if you want woody stuff, or live in a shack.”  Truth be told I’ll never do anything about the basement walls despite how much I dislike them.  The basement bedroom and bathroom are free of them and I’ll just live with it for quite a while as it is likely to be my domain in the house.

Stress

I’m excited and all, but I also just want it to all end.  This is stressful ####.  They say moving is one of the most stressful times in live.  #### that.  It’s not moving, it’s the #### involved in it damn it.  Particularly the money stuff, not entirely being sure of much at all and of course both the wife and I spazzing about it at various times.  I mean I know the mortgage stuff but I’m one who always asks “do I really know?”

iTunes

So I cleaned up a lot of my MP3s that in terms of tags were a mess.  Anyway does iTunes really think that with the variety of music I have that the “Library” view will EVER be useful to me.  Classical music all scrunched up with various forms of rock and etc.  Heck I don’t even recognize everyone’s names.  Playlists are the way to go.

Speakers

I bought these Bose - Companion® 2 Series II Multimedia Speakers.  Good speakers, but by default they are WAY too bassy.   Once I adjusted them using some software that came with my motherboard they were great but before I don’t know what they were thinking of setting up the speakers like that without a bass dial.  I mean if they were not so bassy then fine no bass dial but this is a PC not some 16 year old kids Honda civic.

Note the headphone jack on the front is way nice.

Ben Folds Five

I don't give a flying #### about people's artistic freedom.  I know they did a few songs and ended it like 1000 years ago but ####'m.  There's not a lot of new (this millennium roughly) music I can stand  and damn it we could sure use some good music these days.  Dear Ben and the Five, look around damn it and put out some stuff.  Hell I don't care if it is original, fine.  Hell just change the worlds in some songs and rerelease'm.  At this rate that would be something.+

+Music pricks who might tell me that there is similar music or better music need not apply and feel comfortable in knowing that I admit I don't know everything about music, thanks anyway.

Yes when duxup is stressed he gets shrill....  way shrill.

CheeseburgerBrown

Oh and where on earth is CheeseburgerBrown? I mean I know the man has kids at the age where they're capable of doing serious harm to themselves (i suppose the boy is intent on it at this point) and require much good parenting but seriously some of us could really use some time living vicariously thru a Canadian artist with a bang'n wife, adorable kids, and all that jazz.

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good music is hard to find by fleece (4.00 / 2) #1 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 05:08:18 AM EST
random songs from my current iTunes playlist that you can't not like

Porcupine Tree - Trains
Operator Please - Song about Ping Pong
Sinead O'Connor - Daddy I'm Fine
The Dukes of Windsor - The others (TV Rock Mix)
Hooverphonic - We all Float
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Gary Jules - Mad World
Bonde do Role - Marina Gasolina
Portishead - Roads
Silverchair - Straight Lines

all these songs are readily borrowable from the internet



TY by duxup (4.00 / 1) #4 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 02:10:06 PM EST
I will give them a try.
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Doors are easy by lm (4.00 / 2) #2 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 08:55:19 AM EST
A pre-hung door will take you an afternoon to put up in the worst case scenario and half an hour in the best. If the space where the door goes happens to be the same size as the frame for a standard sized pre-hung door, all you need to do is slide into place and nail the frame to the walls on either side. If the space isn't a perfect fit, you'll need to build a frame and probably put some sheetrock up. That still won't take all that long. Hopefully your walls aren't textured. If so, then you'll want to make the texture match and that will suck.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic


Oh indeed by duxup (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 02:19:37 PM EST
Our walls are smooth (thank goodness) but the space for the door is not ideal as the ceiling is higher so we'll have to fill in that spot above the door (we're thinking with a window to let the light from the big master bath window in the house).  Also I highly suspect that the width of that space is a slightly odd width. 

This is likely going to be one of those projects we hire someone to do so we don't have to stare at my .... "almost there" handywork ;)
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Mortgage Escrow and Title Insurance by jimgon (4.00 / 2) #3 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:16:01 AM EST
Mortgage Escrow is more about protecting the lender than your interest.  It allows them to  ensure that  you are paying your insurance and taxes, so they don't lose their investment in your property to property damage or tax lien.  All things  considered I've been happy with the approach since  it means that I don't have to worry about either.  Also, at the end of the  year if they've taken more than they needed  they refund the difference.

Title Insurance.  Is pretty cheap regardless of where  you go, and in all due honesty there's a reason.



I'm cool with it by duxup (4.00 / 1) #6 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 02:31:40 PM EST
Yeah the tax escrow makes sense from all kinds of angles.  Most of the mortgage places take some tiny % off your mortgage or outright demand you escrow it.  I thought it was kinda silly in my current home as i could easily pay the tax bill out of my wallet but the new house is taxed higher and it is convenient.  Either way it is no big deal.

There's been all of one owner for the house we are buying and it was built in 98...  Sure there's the land and all but yeah the title insurance seems a bit silly and should be way cheep.  When I finally hear what it is I get the feeling I'll be "yeah just get that thanks."
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Don't count on it! by ad hoc (4.00 / 2) #11 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 07:56:19 PM EST
There's an issue going on here that has the (admittedly remote) potential of billions and billions of dollars in title claims.

Here, it's all tied in with casinos and crooked tribal leaders, but if the Wampanoags revive their land claim, it could reek havoc with the title insurers. (More)

So while there may have been only one owner of the house, there's really no telling what might happen in the future with claims of ancestral ownership.
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Wow that is crazy by duxup (4.00 / 1) #12 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 08:08:33 PM EST
Well I'm sure not planning on going without such insurance either way.
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Congrats! by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #7 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 04:22:46 PM EST
Are you going to have a Husi wide house warming?




Yes by duxup (4.00 / 1) #8 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 05:11:24 PM EST
All Husi folks are welcome to come to the home!  Although like one person learned I tend to kill those internet folk I meet in real life.  Don't say I didn't warn you.
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stuff by LilFlightTest (4.00 / 2) #9 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 07:02:32 PM EST
bF5: ben folds solo isn't good enough?

also, as far as i know CBB is alive, but he's pretty busy with a lot of stuff, including a new Simon-like serial.
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Maybe by duxup (4.00 / 1) #10 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 07:20:33 PM EST
I didn't know he had a solo career.  Or at least I didn't remember.  See that's the problem, the music industry is busy trying to sell stuff to kids who are busy stealing music instead of folks like me with money in hand and don't know there is product to buy!
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it's pretty decent by LilFlightTest (4.00 / 2) #13 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 09:11:53 PM EST
he did pretty much all the backing himself. he has a couple solo albums at this point, i think, and a live one where he does some BF5 songs as well.
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if de-virgination results in me being able to birth hammerhead sharks, SIGN ME UP!!! --misslake
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It's funny how different by muchagecko (4.00 / 1) #14 Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 02:55:49 PM EST
people are about bathroom privacy.

While living with many people (back in those awful shelters), I was amazed at how prudish I seemed compared to others who had no problem using the facilities with others around.

I say hang the door when you can, 'cuz intimacy doesn't mean you have to listen to your partner's bathroom noises.

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin


Amen by duxup (4.00 / 1) #15 Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 04:09:14 PM EST
The door will go up later, just because with owning two homes we'd like to hold off on any expenses.  We've both agreed the toilet is a no fly zone until the door goes up.  There's a bathroom down the hall we can use in the meantime.
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