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I do not listen to all the new cool music like the cool kids do here.  I don't buy or even steal very much music these days, I even let my coveted oink account expire.  But I heard of Radiohead's new pay-what-you-want experiment now that they are off-label, so I figured what the heck and pre-ordered.  I like Radiohead, why not chip in a few bucks to celebrate them being off-label.

I got my download email this morning.  It's good.  It's very good.  It's more than good.  It's so good it hurts.  I can't remember a time I've enjoyed an album so much since I was in high school, and this was my first listen.



Now for the second listen.  Sleep is for sissies.
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mmm thanks for the reminder by yankeehack (4.00 / 1) #1 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 02:09:14 AM EST
Just bought it this morning for my workday...

Is there no album art (or that I can see on iTunes?)
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No art yet by theantix (4.00 / 1) #12 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:35:41 AM EST
The actual discs aren't going to be released for a while yet, and I'm not sure if they will ever be on iTMS or Amazon so the automagic album art thingies may never work.
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The download speed by blixco (4.00 / 1) #2 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 03:04:12 AM EST
was freaking amazing on my connection from home.  It took ten seconds to download.

Gutsy broke my feisty install.  Thankfully it only takes a minute to restore it to feisty.
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I'm going to write an article about that by theantix (4.00 / 2) #13 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:37:44 AM EST
working title "Ubuntu: I hate your guts(y)"

By selectively removing a few packages (evms, xserver-xgl) I got a working desktop again.  But it's by far the worst ubuntu upgrade I've ever seen.
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I ended up by blixco (2.00 / 0) #17 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 07:01:23 AM EST
restoring feisty.  Maybe they'll get the xserver stuff sorted out.  If you use an Intel integrated graphics controller, you're used to this sort of thing.
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I naively thought by theantix (4.00 / 2) #18 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 07:13:30 AM EST
That since I'm using the OSS intel controller I would be front of the pack in support.  I can hear you laugh from here...
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XKCD has to be the best comic evar. by mrgoat (4.00 / 2) #3 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 03:50:30 AM EST
"Instead of office chair, package contained bobcat. Would not buy again."

Re: Radiohead - I wish to see more bands doing this. I wonder exactly how much more of my money they get if I pay them $20 for the album, than they would have on-label.

--top hat--

19.99 [nt] by debacle (4.00 / 1) #4 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:20:44 AM EST


IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRLES THOROWNF MONEY ART SUOCIDE GIRLS STRIPPER HPW CAN YPUS :OSE?!?!?!?(elcevisides).

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Cool, thanks. by mrgoat (4.00 / 1) #5 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:22:46 AM EST
I've always heard vague values like "pennies", "a few cents", or "maybe a dime, if they've paid back the advance".

--top hat--
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Beware by debacle (4.00 / 1) #6 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:26:42 AM EST
Grandparent comment is coated in fecal matter as it was just removed from my ass.

IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRLES THOROWNF MONEY ART SUOCIDE GIRLS STRIPPER HPW CAN YPUS :OSE?!?!?!?(elcevisides).

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It is happening by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #10 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:01:57 AM EST
Nine Inch Nails is going to do it as well now that Reznor is at the end of his contract.

Basically, these guys realized that 10 million sales x $0.25/album is less than 1 million sales times $9/album.
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I heard about that. by mrgoat (4.00 / 1) #16 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:47:35 AM EST
So in that regard, I'm hoping he goes back to putting out good music again, instead of Year Zero. Year Zero was worth, like, five bucks. Here's to hoping he was just running out the album contract.

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MC Hammer by LinDze (4.00 / 2) #31 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 08:59:07 PM EST
was making more selling out of the trunk of his car after concerts than when he was on a "real" label

-Lin Dze
Arbeit Macht Frei
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Funny though by gazbo (4.00 / 1) #33 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 12:52:39 AM EST
That the bands doing it are the hugely rich, extremely famous bands with a huge fanbase and the means to record/mix/master an album with their own money.

Also, you may wish to adjust your equation to take account of residuals.


I recommend always assuming 7th normal form where items in a text column are not allowed to rhyme.

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Bad for the midlist by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #34 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 06:43:46 AM EST
The two groups that can make money doing this are famous artists who don't need marketting/distribution (like Radiohead) and quirky niche artists who would have trouble getting signed at all (like Jonathan Coulton.) (The latter shows that the means to record/mix/master an album is no longer out of the reach of individuals.)

Residuals don't really apply to music. It is all an issue of units sold. (Ignoring concerts and merchandising.)

Of the three broad types of media (movies and TV, books, music) musicians get, by far, the worst deals.
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Well, there are the songwriting royalties by leviramsey (2.00 / 0) #43 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 05:06:12 PM EST

...mostly from radio airplay and so forth, as well as digital performance royalties (which increase markedly if you own the underlying copyright, though there is provision for even the backup singers on the record to get a piece of that action). Those streams are why guys like Liberty DeVitto sue Billy Joel... if you write a song that manages to become a core song for a nostalgia-based radio format you can probably count on at least $30k a year for a couple of decades without having to lift a finger.

The limiting factor for this is, of course, the continued existence and health of said radio format. Given that advertisers have not historically been willing to spend much to court the 55-plus demo and that musical taste tends to get fairly fixed between the ages of 12 and 15 and that interest in active discovery of new artists, etc. peaks around 18 to 20, the nostalgia portion of a station's playlist is thus roughly governed by looking at the end-points of the station's target demographic. Oldies radio, for instance targets 40-54. The bulk of the playlist will thus be newer than 42 years old (because the 54 year-olds were 12 42 years ago) and older than 22 years old (because the 40 year-olds were 18 22 years ago).

When you look at it this way, you see why Oldies radio is in "crisis". The core of the playlist now covers 1965-1985, roughly, and probably the best output of the period is the older stuff which doesn't gel well with the good stuff from the later period. I've maintained for a while that CBS flipped most of their Oldies stations to Jack because Jack skews a little younger (the format is basicaly '70s & '80s hits with stuff from other decades that works within that; a song from 1970 to 1992 or thereabouts only needs to have charted to justify itself in that format) and solves the problem of going from the Beatles to Bon Jovi by abandoning any claim to format consistency. Where the Oldies stations have returned, they've essentially gone to the 1965-1985 playbook; anything pre-British Invasion has been tossed out.

Classic Rock will be dealing with this question next. Hendrix, the Stones, the Who, the Doors, Zeppelin, etc. will probably be spared from the purge, but less well-known classic rock from pre-1975 will be gradually deemphasized over the next few years. The question is whether the format's programmers can find a way to integrate grunge into the mix without pissing off the legacy listeners or whether they'll stick their head in the sand and ride the dinosaurs into the sunset. In that event, we'll probably see a '90s-based classic rock format sweep the country in the coming years... using the 12/18 rule the oldest listeners for that format are now about 35 and the youngest are on the cusp of 18. The question is whether mainstream/active/alternative will contort itself into that format before the classic rock formats do.

However, returning to the original point, those streams earn revenue at a statutory rate, so you're not giving them up by going independent.


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What I was getting at by gazbo (4.00 / 1) #44 Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 06:49:40 AM EST
Was that all of that sweet, sweet airplay doesn't just happen by accident.  A record company works and pays fucking hard to get songs on radio and TV.  It's all publicity to generate sales (to benefit them) but it's also royalties in the pockets of the songwriters.  Big royalties.

I think what I'm trying to get at is that the record industry - in dire need of renovation as it is - is not a useless and defunct leech.  If it  didn't exist, somebody certainly would have to invent it.  Radio stations deal with label publicists, record shops* deal with big distributors.  In a world where every band went independent, it would be days before companies sprang up offering promotion services (in exchange for a cut, of course) and months before radio stations refused to even speak to anyone except these companies, as it's just too much of a waste of their time.

*Okay, I guess it's entirely possible that the concept of a record shop may well become irrelevant in the not too distant future.


I recommend always assuming 7th normal form where items in a text column are not allowed to rhyme.

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Second best after qwantz by theantix (4.00 / 2) #14 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:40:39 AM EST
But I particularly enjoyed today's SQL injection comic featuring little Bobby Tables.

Re: dollars, I don't think debacle is very far off.  And my favourite comment so far is that music prices have been on the honour system for quite some time, but this is the first time it's been openly acknowledged.
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xkcd is teh funny by ShadowNode (4.00 / 2) #26 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 12:26:21 PM EST
Look here and here. The second link is not worksafe.

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No one else, by mrgoat (4.00 / 2) #29 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 02:02:29 PM EST
Could do a stick figure comic, and get pictures of naked people in showers in porno poses with guitars, in response.

Let it be a challenge then: If you think you love your favorite webcomic, send attractive, naked, pictures of people of the sex the writer is attracted to, in the shower, with a guitar.

Anyone who can prove they got more than Randall Munroe, wins.

--top hat--

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Try as they may by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #7 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:31:51 AM EST

They are no Battles.


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She still dances to it by joh3n (4.00 / 2) #8 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:39:02 AM EST
every. damn. time.

Hell, I just have to clap my hands to the drum beat of the intro, and she starts bouncing.

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Kids know what's good by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 2) #9 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:42:43 AM EST

Free from that 4/4 prejudice that years of linear melodic cultural brainwashing breeds...

\m/ BABIES \m/


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Like I said by theantix (4.00 / 1) #15 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:41:36 AM EST
I don't know your cool-kid, new-fangled music type things.  However, I love this.
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I understand that by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #25 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 12:09:19 PM EST
Its just that six people so far today have felt the need to tell me how awesome the new radiohead album is, which pretty much means I can never give it a fair listening. As a result, I will just refuse to listen to it ever.
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As part of my health care platform by Hillary Clinton (4.00 / 2) #27 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 12:47:58 PM EST
I will mandate that everyone in America listen to the new Radiohead album "In Rainbows" at least one time per day or else pay a tax of $7.00 which will go directly to the specific homeless people who bother mns when he's just trying to buy some fucking hot dogs.

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Dude! by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #35 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 06:56:22 AM EST
Download it now! It's totally awesome!
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does this help? by alprazolam (4.00 / 2) #41 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 01:54:36 PM EST
radiohead sucks and this new album is probably going to be the same as their other sucky albums. it's probably great if you're into crying yourself to sleep and stuff.

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It would, but the situation doesn't need help by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 2) #42 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 02:17:31 PM EST

They spent so much time on a major label, it's hard to get excited that their junk finally dropped and the decided to do what countless other musicians have been doing for the last five years. Yet, somehow, Radiohead doing this is "news".


Then there's the hero worship aspect of "big bands" which annoys the shit out of me. Radiohead is where they are because of major label promotion; on their own, they're a mediocre prog-rock band, heavily derivative, and incapable of busting much in the way of new ideas. This is no surprise to me; I expect the same from Radiohead that I do from, say, U2 or Pearl Jam; they will continue to crank out the same product they always crank out, and pimply-faced teenage know-nothings will slurp it all up like hungry whores at a fleshy fountain.


Big, big whatevs. There's plenty of kickass new music out there, and most of the people who are geeked about Radiohead haven't the faintest fucking clue it's out there, because MTV never showed them a video.


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I ended up upgrading to gutsy by Captain Tenille (4.00 / 1) #11 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 06:31:03 AM EST
(after managing to hork my nvidia drivers in feisty somehow) and it worked fine afterwards. Somehow Cedega even started working after the update, which it didn't before.

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thanks for the warning by MillMan (4.00 / 1) #19 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 08:05:57 AM EST
I will avoid the gutsy for a while.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?

Cheese! by ni (4.00 / 1) #20 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 08:25:40 AM EST
Did you know? I ate tillamook cheddar last weekend, and lo, it was delicious.


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is tillamook really that good? by R343L (4.00 / 1) #24 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 09:48:40 AM EST
Clearly I shall have to overcome my aversion to the Safeway and buy some since you all rave about it.

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it really is by theantix (4.00 / 1) #28 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 12:50:05 PM EST
Warm a slice to room temperature and consume without any distractions.  It will make your brain tingle.  (at least, it will if you are me)
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well ... I needed cheese this evening by R343L (4.00 / 1) #30 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 04:02:29 PM EST
So I bought that. Not my usual $7+/lb hippy cheese by any means.

"There will be time, there will be time / To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet." -- Eliot
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It's cheese by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #36 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 06:57:07 AM EST
Of course it's good!
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[nt] by R343L (4.00 / 1) #38 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 08:19:42 AM EST
not true

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Easy access to Tillamook is one of those things by fluffy (4.00 / 1) #39 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 08:42:31 AM EST
that I really miss about Seattle
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.... you can get it at Safeway by R343L (4.00 / 1) #40 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 09:54:17 AM EST
Or are there multiple Tillamook and I have gotten fake cheese?

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to clarify by fluffy (2.00 / 0) #45 Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 03:41:25 PM EST
in Seattle, you have easy access to Tillamook cheese IN FIVE-POUND LOAVES.
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err... are those the ones by R343L (2.00 / 0) #46 Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 05:00:38 PM EST
That are like 8 inches long and then like 2.5x2.5 inches? Seems like those would be about 5 pounds. If so, I could have bought one at the Safeway, but I can never seem to go thru that much cheese in a reasonable time frame ...

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Things must be bigger on the peninsula by fluffy (2.00 / 0) #47 Sat Oct 13, 2007 at 09:19:22 AM EST
In San Francisco proper, grocery stores only seem to sell little bitty things for little bitty urbanites who never cook. (Although I find myself cooking a lot less now, myself...)

It takes me a couple months to go through a 5 pound loaf but I have good cheese preservation-fu.  The trick is to wrap it in wax paper, then secure that with a rubber band, then put that in a large zip-top bag.
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Gutsy by crux (4.00 / 1) #21 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 08:41:52 AM EST
But I neeeed it!

I've got a big fat external monitor that works great under the Gutsy alphas with no reconfiguration at all; and would presumably work great under Feisty were I to spend six months tinkering with xorg.conf ...

Hopefully it's not so bad. :)


I didn't try a fresh install by theantix (4.00 / 1) #22 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 08:51:57 AM EST
My complaint is solely with the upgrade process which left x ridiculously slow until I removed xgl and also some failed mystery process that took 30% of my cpu until I removed evms.
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Fresh install by crux (4.00 / 1) #23 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 09:04:53 AM EST
Seems to be the way to go, maybe?

I always keep my ~ backed up and it didn't seem to take too long to get completely back up and running after Fujitsu support decided that my drive needed a wipe and a WinXP install in order to repair a cracked motherboard.

Certainly no longer than troubleshooting a borked upgrade...

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Ubuntu? by Horatio Hellpop (4.00 / 1) #32 Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 09:06:59 PM EST
Is that a water-type, or a fire-type Pokeman?

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Write In Vote: by duxup (4.00 / 2) #37 Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 08:03:02 AM EST
I am less cool than you.  I don't understand Raidiohead.
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