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By Kwesta Junipo (Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 07:34:03 AM EST) politics (all tags)
As Grigori Perelman was refusing his Fields medal for proving Thurston's geometrization conjecture, the New Yorker released the article "Manifold Destiny". It provides an intriguing perspective into the very human foibles of mathematicians. However, it casts Shing-Tung Yau in the role of a baddie more evil than Dr. Evil himself.


Shing-Tung Yau is most famous for proving Calabi's conjecture about the existence of Ricci-flat metrics on spaces with holonomy contained in SU(n) and zero first Chern class. He also proved the positive energy theorem in general relativity (it is interesting to note that Witten gave a simpler and more physical proof using spin structures soon afterwards), and the Severi conjecture (informally, the complex projective version of Poincare). He is the 'Y' in the SYZ conjecture, one formulation of "mirror symmetry", and has done seminal work in understanding eigenvalues of Laplacian operators, and generally applying difficult analytic methods to concrete geometrical problems. Morally, therefore, he very much set the stage for Donaldson, and is undoubtedly amongst the very cleverest geometers ever.

However, the article goes to considerable effort to delve into his less savoury characteristics. Despite the fact he has done incredible mathematics (and physics) himself, it is alleged that he has a nasty habit of trying to take credit from others (most famously Perelman, but also Givental). This occurs by saying their proofs are incomplete, whereas in reality they are just terse. He has also made some very nasty and very public allegations about his former doctoral student Gang Tian - including plagiarism, and the fact that he is paid by Peking University just to be a big name superstar.

He is now hired a PR firm, built a vanity page, issued a webcast and is threatening to sue the New Yorker. All this makes for interesting gossip at tea-times of mathematics departments around the world, but is perhaps damages the genial image of the subject and distracts from the beauty of the mathematics itself.

So, HuSi, my question is this. Shing-Tung Yau: good or whack?

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needs a picture by martingale (4.00 / 1) #1 Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 08:28:08 AM EST
If you're going to ask us to whack, then I'm sorry but I for one need a picture. Dammit!
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It certainly sounds like by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #2 Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 11:16:33 AM EST
he's a prima donna who can't handle being beaten to the punch.


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except of course by martingale (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 07:26:31 PM EST
that the "journalist" in question is a layperson unqualified to make any kind of judgement about what all the expert comments mean. The need to make a "story" out of a collection of facts (and it appears, non-facts) is strong with the magazine crowd.
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Hmmm... by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #5 Wed Sep 27, 2006 at 10:47:01 AM EST
Well, we (I) can't judge the math, but vanity pages, PR firms and threatening lawsuits don't sound like someone who feels secure about themselves.

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well by martingale (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed Sep 27, 2006 at 08:25:10 PM EST
I *can* judge the math (I'm not familiar with his area though), and I recognize the supposedly damning type of comments from his colleagues about his achievements for what they are: fairly commonly expressed in backroom mathematical contexts about many different people. They are the equivalent of "he's good, but he's not perfect" chitchat.

Like most mathematical statements, one can't understand their meaning if one doesn't understand the jargon and idioms, which this reporter certainly fails to get. That's of course besides the concrete facts that her interviewees have published open letters complaining about selective quoting and having their words twisted, and the fact that some of the quotes are actually from nonexistent people (which of course is most likely a misunderstanding by the reporter or her aides, but does not bode well for the quality of the article).

I think it is eminently sensible for Yau to have hired a PR firm, since the damage to his standing, while easily dismissed as a hatchet job in the mathematical community, does have serious repercussions in terms of funding and university politics.

Just as it is a very bad idea to defend oneself in a court of law without a lawyer, it is a bad idea to defend oneself in the court of public opinion without a PR firm. Even if on the whole, the only good PR people are dead PR people.
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The quality of the article by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:05:24 AM EST
You raise some good points; I forgot a key principle about the press - every time they write an article about something I know about personally, I notice that they've screwed it up. So why should I believe them when they write about things I know nothing about?

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my personal point of view: by martingale (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:02:47 PM EST
The press is always full of crap, but it must still be read to be able to talk to others. Such is the bane of modern man.
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Thank you by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 12:51:24 PM EST

All of this had hitherto flown beneath my radar. Excellent.


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