By ObviousTroll (Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 06:15:54 PM EST) (all tags)
So, I was hunting around for more hamster info for my daughter, because her weirdo hamster doesn't like his hamster ball (although he has figured out how to get the lid off..

Anyway, I ended up at the wikipedia entry on hamsters and I thought I'd be a good joe and add my $0.02 USD on the bit about hamster wheels and tubes, because the current version is illegible. And, so I decided to create an account for myself. Guess what happened 90 seconds later? Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Kungfuadam for the following reason (see our blocking policy): troll Glad to see there's no fooling the big brains at wikipedia! I wonder how many trolls fell into the same pit I did, boldly announcing themselves that way. I thought about trying to create a second account called "anncoultermustdie" but would anyone really trust an obvious left-winger to know anything about hamster wheels? So much for free-hippie-love at wikipedia... | 37 comments (37 topical, 0 hidden) | Trackback Oh, and in other news... by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #1 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 06:58:08 PM EST My employer bought me a spiffy new Core Duo laptop with a gorgeous hi-res screen, amazing performance, a high speed DVD burner, and the ability to boot multiple operating systems. The only downside is that it was made by Dell. The cognitive dissonance is so strong I'm vibrating like a tuning fork. -- Faith, and the possibility of weaponized kissing? Core duo rocks! by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #2 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:19:54 PM EST nt --- [ucblockhead is] useless and subhuman [ Parent ] Yeah, it's a shame they apparently by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:34:59 PM EST tied it to your typical low-speed laptop hard drive. I couldn't figure out why, despite having something like 5 times the CPU power I used to have, some stuff still seemed sluggish. Then I noticed the CPU meter was reading 0, but the HD was whining like a jet engine. -- Faith, and the possibility of weaponized kissing? [ Parent ] Yeah by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #5 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:43:43 PM EST But it's nice that no one app can hog your CPU. --- [ucblockhead is] useless and subhuman [ Parent ] Except multi-threaded ones by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #10 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 10:37:55 PM EST You just need two mad threads now rather than one. Think Outlook 2007. [ Parent ] nope by martingale (2.00 / 0) #16 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:39:21 AM EST That's just windows. The hardware's fine. Heh, for the longest time I had a super duper dell brick (Inspiron 7500). It was so good it kept me from upgrading for years :( --$E(X_t|F_s) = X_s,\quad t > s\$

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I suspected as much. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #18 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:41:52 AM EST
This looks like a job for.... Dual Boot Man!

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Two left boots, or two right ones? by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #27 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:51:14 AM EST
Are they the oversized 20EEEE clown boots?

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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One set are steel-toed work boots. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #32 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 05:14:20 AM EST
The others are mid-thigh pleather boots with stilleto heels...

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What Wikipedia is good for: by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #4 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:40:00 PM EST

Discussing Irish evil, and nothing else. Transformers Alert!

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You can build the most elegant fountain in the world, but eventually a winged rat will be using it as a drinking bowl.
Wikipedia block by gadfium (2.80 / 5) #6 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:51:30 PM EST

"Vandal", "Hacker", "Spammer", "Troll", or other names that may give the impression that you intend to cause trouble.

I've reviewed your request for unblock at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obvioustroll and turned it down. Please find a more appropriate username and contribute to Wikipedia under it.

I suggest by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #7 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 08:10:32 PM EST
ObviousToll
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We used to have a user called ClockworkTroll by gadfium (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 08:32:46 PM EST
He must have adopted his name before the current policy came into effect.

A year or two ago, he was nominated to become an admin at Wikipedia, and met with some opposition due to his name. He agreed to change it should he become an admin, and did so, to ClockworkSoul.

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I like this one by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #11 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 10:43:05 PM EST
How sweet by BadDoggie (4.00 / 5) #13 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 12:25:06 AM EST
Fucking PC twats, unable to see the irony in someone calling himself "ObviousTroll" providing actual content. Ironic too is that the site that anyone can edit will block people with amusing nicknames but let a load of schmucks sit and argue over whether the "article" about GNAA shoiuld be removed.

Am I blocked? If not, why not? My nick states that I'm "Bad". What about if I log in under my actual given name, Oomau_Mei? Would it be acceptable for me to post? Could I edit under that nick? Could I be an admin? What about someone who produces a legitimate birth certificate reading "Pigfucker Jones"? Would you ban him? Would you ban a Finn posting under her real name of "Ulli Trolla"?

What's the policy? "If someone feels a name is offensive, that nick is blackballed"? The reason wikipedia is so easy to torpedo is that you're so busy with the superficial you never take time to look at the minor changes that anyone can slowly and quietly make under a username like "ImSoHappyHelpingAllOfYou".

woof.

OMG WE'RE FUCKED! -- duxup ?

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You're operating under the incorrect assumption by komet (4.00 / 3) #14 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:00:05 AM EST
that Wikipedia is about creating an encyclopedia - a common mistake to make, seeing as they believe it themselves, but of course if you look at this incident and others, and glance at the massive circle-jerk that is the arbitration committee, it becomes clear that Wikipedia serves mainly to provide structure, a sense of belonging and a purpose in life to people who would otherwise hang around at parties being terminal bores and annoying innocent bystanders. The fact that you can sometimes get useful information from the project is just a side effect.

Look at it this way, and everything on Wikipedia makes sense.

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heh by clover kicker (4.00 / 1) #24 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:26:44 AM EST
Those guys wade thru shit every day. The guy looking at OT's edits may not have known anything about hamsters, is he going to carefully research the topic to ensure there isn't subtle sabotage happening, or get out the banhammer?

I know what I'd do.

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I'm not angry that they don't like 'troll' in uids by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #25 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:33:56 AM EST
But I'm quite pissed off that this all happened without any warning that they didn't like my name and that they've now banned my IP address so that I can create all the accounts I like, but none of them are permitted to edit articles.

Do they ban socialists because the word contains "cialis"?

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Faith, and the possibility of weaponized kissing?

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sure by clover kicker (2.00 / 0) #26 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:38:38 AM EST
But I know you, a little, so I have sympathy.

And Husi is a much different culture than wikipedia.

If I spent hours of my free time scrubbing shit from wiki articles, I suppose my patience would be a bit thin.

For every guy like you there are a hundred asshats, the cost/benefit of getting to know each person with troll in their username can't be very good.

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sounds like a fulfilling hobby. by garlic (2.00 / 0) #35 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 06:51:45 AM EST

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I still don't get it by DesiredUsername (2.00 / 0) #22 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:09:21 AM EST
What does the 5 character string 't','r','o','l','l' have to do with contributing to Wikipedia or serving as an admin?

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Well, apparently you aren't going to get many by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #23 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:10:29 AM EST
contributions from porkchop_d_clown, either, since that account is banned for having the sheer gall to share an IP address with the known troll "ObviousT".

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Right. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #15 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:38:49 AM EST
Because you should always judge people before they have a chance to do something.

I particularly like the way
a) no warning is given that a name is in appropriate and
b) no reference to "inappropriate name list" was given by the blocker.

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Faith, and the possibility of weaponized kissing?

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To be fair to them by Bob Abooey (4.00 / 3) #31 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 04:26:13 AM EST
On the Internets they can't tell the colour of your skin so what else do they have to go on except your name?

Warmest regards,

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Couldn't they just put up a sign or something? by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #33 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 05:15:12 AM EST
"Computer geek clowns not allowed" would have been fine...

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Fair enough by gpig (4.00 / 2) #21 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:55:49 AM EST
but the original blocker could have given one sentence instead of one word, and actually explained the reason for blocking. Something like

word 'troll' not allowed in username

would have done the trick.

Just typing 'troll' and expecting the user to figure it out may strictly speaking be ok with Wikipedia policy, but it strikes me as rude (not quite Debian mailing list rude, but getting that way).

Also, if there's a certain list of disallowed words, it strikes me as odd that the signup doesn't grep for these. (I understand that there will be other more subtle things that are also disallowed, but it would serve as a good first pass).

I hasten to add that in general, I think Wikipedia is a good effort -- kudos to you for contributing your time to something useful.
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Debian mailing list rude by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #28 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:54:41 AM EST
"The problem with Debian is Deb and Ian."
IBM guy, to me, at FOSE a couple years back.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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and this is why we love wikipedia. by garlic (4.00 / 2) #34 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 06:45:53 AM EST
Tell the wikitruth!

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oh, that is a travesty by webwench (4.00 / 6) #8 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 08:30:19 PM EST
I think I feel a chorus of 'swing low, sweet chariot' coming on right now.

Getting more attention than you since 1998.

I'm more of an amazing grace fellow. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #17 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:40:33 AM EST
Particular the version where you use the alternate melody that Eric Burden ripped off for House of the Rising Sun.

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Blind Boys of Alabama by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 1) #36 Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 03:07:13 AM EST

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Yes. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #37 Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 03:44:28 AM EST
Yes, that's a great version.

They weren't the first to do it that way, AFAIK, though. I know a guy who claims to have heard Amazing Grace done that way in the early 60s and, looking around, I found several different versions of AG where the melody is similar to HOTRS.

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So you need a more wiki-friendly username by squigs (4.00 / 3) #12 Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 10:53:57 PM EST
Suggestions:

Obvious-T The rapper.
NonObviousLegitimateUser.
ObliviousStroll.
BoivbhfGebyy

I like ObliviousStroll by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #19 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:43:48 AM EST
Another that came to mind:

ObviousProle

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What really gets my goat... by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #20 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 01:47:43 AM EST
is that the whole reason I used the name is because if you google for "ObviousTroll" every hit on the first three pages, except one, is me.

As for the guy who stole my name - Dude. A Nissan? Really. That's just wrong. No self respecting troll would drive a yuppie mobile like that.

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If you google for "wiredog" by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #29 Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 02:58:41 AM EST
The first hit is for an ISP in the Roanoake area.

The second hit is a UserFriendly diary I haven't touched in about 4 years.

This is the 4th hit.