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By CheeseburgerBrown (Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:02:59 AM EST) (all tags)
Below, some notes and thank yous.



As a Canadian and a calm one at that, I frequently have cause to swallow my words in the name of civility. That's why it's so refreshing sometimes to just let 'er rip and debate something. I greatly enjoyed the flamewar about my wife's boobs, and I'd like to thank all of those who participated.

Especially: Blixco, who is a stand-up citizen in my eyes for not only indulging my inquiries, but also suffering through the parts where our dialogue became rambunctious (as is wont to happen when you're typing fast and furious) without losing his cool. True, he called "Feminism!" on me, but re-reading the thread it really does look like I'm accusing him of misogyny so I say we're on even ground for exchanging that kind of shot. Ultimately I found his point of view informative.

LFT: I'm sorry I didn't come to your defense sooner. I was confused by the exchange, and was suspending judgement until I acquired further information for context. I thought there must be something else behind what I was seeing, instead of what it appeared to be, which was just natural female competitiveness. Had I realized the character of the attacks sooner I'd have spoken up more quickly. Apologies.

Persimmon: again, thanks for your candour.

Calla: I've been in general treating this one with kid-gloves for a long time on account of having a crush on her boyfriend, but I feel refreshed and delighted that it now seems appropriate to call 'em as I see 'em with her. Thank you, calla, for revealing your true colours.

rmg: What happened to you, man? Where is your energy going these days, if not here?

We got to touch on some interesting issues, including Germaine Greer's famous Madonna/Whore Dichotomy which I think bears more exploration, but I'll leave that for another time. Plenty to mull over!

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Was that by blixco (4.00 / 2) #1 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:09:16 AM EST
a flame war?  I'd think flame war implies that it was a heated, angry thing.  The only bit that got me was the subtle change in perception from me talking about my wife to me talking about everyone.

And I don't know that I used the phrase feminist.

Otherwise: good show!  Your wife's boobs are now the hottest topic of discussion on HuSi!  Never let it be said we're a bunch of stuffed shirts here!  Heh.
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Taken out of context I must seem so strange - Ani DiFranco

I Meant The Part... by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #3 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:15:46 AM EST
...where you referenced women's sufferage throughout the last century, as a context for understanding objectification.

Um, it's a bit flamey now in parts -- particularly exchanges involving calla, persimmon-FT, and of course the bits with Captain Happy-Pants a.k.a. codemonkey_yuk.

About your cock piece: I asked Littlestar if she wanted me to post an expose on my member, and she said, "No." Good thing, or we'd have looked like penis diary buddies which some camps might misinterpret as homosexual, misandrous, or both.


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da. We are a simple, grease-loving people who enjoy le weekend de ski.
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"camps" by DesiredUsername (2.00 / 0) #9 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:29:17 AM EST
vgood

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Well, by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #10 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:29:49 AM EST
some shirts are more stuffed than others here, anyway.

Although I do seem to have defined pects at the moment, which is nice.

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Go fuck yourself. by Driusan (4.00 / 2) #30 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:43:57 AM EST
Your boring flamewar wasted untold minutes of my life before I realized it wasn't going exciting and gave up, and I want them back.

Asshole.

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Oh, right, yes, that by DullTrev (4.00 / 1) #2 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:12:33 AM EST

I foolishly thought the title of yon diary was a tease, so imagine my consternation when I clicked on the link at work to be confronted with a rather magnificent cleavage.

I would flame you for not warning us, but, well, you did. I just didn't believe you...

Damn you and your double-bluffs, you tricky Canuck!


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DFJ?
No, You're Right. by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #4 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:16:47 AM EST
I'm glad you agree by DullTrev (4.00 / 2) #5 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:20:06 AM EST

The tags were: rack, boobs, breasts, tits, jugs, knockers, bosom, bust, hooters, melons, wife, colic

Way too subtle.

And I'm not going anywhere near the hole diary Blixco has posted.


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Aw, come on. by blixco (4.00 / 4) #12 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:40:40 AM EST
Cock, hole....how could it be bad?
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Taken out of context I must seem so strange - Ani DiFranco
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You posted your cock in the whole. by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #13 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:41:31 AM EST
Attention whore!

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Ah! by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #14 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:42:03 AM EST
That's a terrible typo there.

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Indeed. by blixco (4.00 / 3) #15 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:42:43 AM EST
It'd be tough to do that.

It'd be a page widening problem.
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Taken out of context I must seem so strange - Ani DiFranco

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Does the nice Mr Blixco want some help? by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #37 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 10:58:49 AM EST
I'll turn the macro setting off on your camera if you can't do it yourself.

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Damn by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #6 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:26:04 AM EST
Missed that one.

Keep up the good work, I'll try and be more on the ball next time and get my two pennorth in in a timely fashion.

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It's political correctness gone mad!

Wow... Are you sure... by atreides (4.00 / 1) #7 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:26:22 AM EST
...that wasn't just some time delayed April Fool's thing or something?

Have you seen The Passion yet? Here's a spoiler for you: Jesus dies.
"...compassion is more than a 16 point word in scrabble." - MostlyHarmless


no by MillMan (4.00 / 3) #46 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 02:45:28 PM EST
You were due for another tiff... by superdiva (4.00 / 6) #8 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:28:40 AM EST
The child-beating and "feminists suck" discussions were last summer.  It was only a matter of time.

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For we are many....
I read that as by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #11 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:31:30 AM EST
Graham Greene, not Germaine Greer.

It makes more sense as the latter.

Must be a typo by motty (2.00 / 0) #51 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:31:14 PM EST
Graham Greene makes a lot more sense here.

I amd itn ecaptiaghle of drinking sthis d dar - Dr T
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A shame I was too busy last night by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #16 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 05:18:51 AM EST
I could have flamed someone for projecting America's racial ills unto a Canadian.


this war needs more gasoline by joh3n (4.00 / 4) #17 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 05:24:03 AM EST
I like my wife's rack.

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Fuel to the fire by anonimouse (4.00 / 3) #24 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:33:04 AM EST
I like your wife's rack too.

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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Her response by joh3n (4.00 / 3) #34 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:42:40 AM EST
"I dunno how I feel about that.  I mean, I haven't seen his package yet, so is it even fair to make that statement?"

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OK then, fair is fair: package delivery by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #53 Wed Apr 05, 2006 at 12:47:11 AM EST
Not really.

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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admit it by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #18 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 05:35:04 AM EST
you were trollerizing again, like you pulled on ole rmg a while back...

No by ks1178 (4.00 / 2) #19 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 05:42:54 AM EST
It's just part of CBB's nefarious plot to dominate the front page.

Blixco past couple posts started knocking off his Enemies posts, so he posted a great story about Robots that he's probably been saving, and then a post about his wifes beautiful breasts, that he knew would get voted +1FP. </joke>

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No, No Trolling. by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 2) #20 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 05:54:30 AM EST
I honestly do feel that Feminism is bunk and that codemonkey_uk is tactless. Truly, those are my feelings.


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da. We are a simple, grease-loving people who enjoy le weekend de ski.
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I think it depends on what you mean by feminism. by aphrael (4.00 / 4) #21 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:01:06 AM EST
I mean, "feminism" once meant "women should be allowed to vote" and "men should not have property interests in their wives" and "women should be allowed to have careers if they want them", and I think the world is a better place for all of these memes having succeeded.
If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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You're Right, Of Course. by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 3) #23 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:10:39 AM EST
Whilst I agree by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #31 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:49:03 AM EST

completely with what you wrote, I was wondering: Do you consider feminism to be a valid philosophy (i.e. alongside ontology, epistemology, ethics etc.)?


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It's about as valid as astrology by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #44 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 12:04:53 PM EST
But without the practical application.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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so, ah by sasquatchan (4.00 / 1) #25 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 07:04:36 AM EST
trollerizing others diaries is now OK ?

Granted, humour and being unkind can be hard to distinguish online.. (re: calla's job diary).

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And water is wet? by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #43 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 12:04:13 PM EST
Really, you should start a cult.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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Don't end it here by theboz (4.00 / 5) #22 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 06:01:29 AM EST
Buy your wife a sapphire-studded nipple ring and eat pecan pancakes off of her chest. It'll be fun!
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That's what I always say about you, boz, you have a good memory for random facts about pussy. -- joh3n
I think you mis-understand her position. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #26 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 07:42:06 AM EST
She's a passionate, passionate woman. You just pushed a particular button.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

Hey, You Know Best. by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 3) #27 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:02:27 AM EST
I'm just screwing around on the Internet, and I'm tired of pulling punches with her. When it looks like she's spewing poppycock, I'm calling her on it.

She's a big girl. She can take it.


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da. We are a simple, grease-loving people who enjoy le weekend de ski.
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Harsh. Real harsh. by Rogerborg (2.50 / 2) #42 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 12:01:45 PM EST
It's a thyroid problem.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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hi again by persimmon (4.00 / 4) #28 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:12:05 AM EST
natural female competitiveness

My whole point is that my motivation (or sin, if you like that word) is disliking someone in a heavily antisocial, generally non-tit-related fashion, not being jealous of some aspect of LFT, understood in this case to be her tits, as people keep assuming and stating.

Unless any animosity between females is necessarily a "catfight" and "competitive" and in that case blah blah blah feminist theory until your ears bleed.
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I Believe You. by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #29 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:22:39 AM EST
I thought your wife's boobs were hot. by me0w (4.00 / 3) #32 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 08:49:27 AM EST
Never be ashamed to post pictures of their hotness.


"the only reason we PMS is because our uterus is screaming at our brain to go out, get fucked, and have a baby ... and it makes us angry."

Did anyone by blixco (4.00 / 3) #35 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:56:57 AM EST
....anywhere...in that entire 200-something comments suggest that CBB shouldn't?
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Taken out of context I must seem so strange - Ani DiFranco
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Not necessarily ... by me0w (2.00 / 0) #50 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 03:53:34 PM EST
But the tone of 'those of questionable mental health ' set an anti-littlestar-has-a-hot-rack atmosphere. CBB might not feel comfortable posting more picture's of hot rack.


"the only reason we PMS is because our uterus is screaming at our brain to go out, get fucked, and have a baby ... and it makes us angry."

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*Curtsy* by littlestar (4.00 / 3) #41 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 11:54:58 AM EST
Thank you kind lady!
*twinkle*twinkle*


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Wait - what - you like boobs? by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #33 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 09:41:30 AM EST
How about oxygen?  What's your position on that?

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I Don't Know... by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 2) #36 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 10:03:59 AM EST
Something about respecting oxygen's right by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #38 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 11:15:50 AM EST
To not be inhaled without permission.

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FUCK THAT SHIT! by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #39 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 11:18:35 AM EST
Ah, show a little compassion by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #40 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 11:35:16 AM EST
I think she just got a touch of rack rage.  Apparently she's been letting herself go, and that's on top of her whole daddy-daughter thing.  Charity, dear sir, charity.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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It's a big man by calla (2.66 / 3) #45 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 02:32:06 PM EST
that will foist all his problems on someone he doesn't even know.

You've got no business pretending to know who I am and what I stand for.

Just because I don't have the same opinions as you doesn't mean mine are wrong. Or maybe it's different in Canada.


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Are Being Purposefully Obtuse? by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #47 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 02:52:21 PM EST
Or are you honestly offended? If you're honestly offended, you need to reharmonize your shit.


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da. We are a simple, grease-loving people who enjoy le weekend de ski.
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I'll make this clear to get through your by calla (2.66 / 3) #48 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 03:05:26 PM EST
thick skull.

Stop mentioning my name.


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Why? by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #49 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 03:34:33 PM EST
Make up your own excuse. by calla (2.00 / 2) #52 Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 10:35:56 PM EST
It's your M.O.


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DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT by Gedvondur (2.00 / 0) #54 Tue Apr 11, 2006 at 11:20:04 AM EST
I go out of town for a few days and BAM!

Gigantic tit and flamewar diaries.

And all I get is this pathetic little remnant.

I could have attacked rmg!  I could have mocked superdiva!  But no.  The moment is passed.

Dammit.

Gedvondur
"...it isn't like I dug up her great-grandmother and fucked her in the eye socket." -clock

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