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By jump the ladder (Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:06:29 AM EST) (all tags)
So is this the Black Wednesday moment for Labour? When everything they touch turns to dross and the public really starts despising them. I've certainly reached that point myself, considering even voting Tory just get the fuckers out. Iraq, ID Cards, ciggy ban, high taxes, sleaze, creeping authoritaranism and imcompetence. The only thing in their favour is that they haven't totally fucked the economy up.

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Thankfully the FA hasn't gone for McClaren. With the dearth of decent English managers, it's unsuprising that they have gone for a foreign coach. However as Dein, the boss of Arsenal, is on the selection comitee, the obvious foreign choice is mysteriously unavailable.

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The worse prospect by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:17:39 AM EST
Is Brown surely. Can you imagine that ... can't think of a word ... Fiddler as prime minister. He just loves to fiddle with things too much.

And he's dull. And another bloody Christian.

God. We're all doomed. I suspect that Mr Charisma (he of the wiffle like hair) will do rather well.

And no Nebbish, I won't vote Tory.

But who to vote for ? by Phage (4.00 / 1) #2 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:23:04 AM EST
You what I'd like for Christmas ?
A credible Green candidate. Not that it matters so much living in Kent. I'd have more luck voting Nazi.

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Protest vote by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #4 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:26:58 AM EST
If enough people do it etc etc...

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Sigh by Phage (2.00 / 0) #6 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:29:25 AM EST
But all the candidates are just plain narrow-minded. Unwilling to compromise and lacking a balanced platform I feel....meh..

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Spoil your ballot paper by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #8 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:31:06 AM EST
Spoiled ballot papers are counted as a protest.

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No... by DullTrev (4.00 / 1) #11 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:36:53 AM EST

They're counted as spoilt ballots. Along with those where the person voting has been too stupid to manage to fill it in correctly.

While it would be nice if we had a "None of the above" option, we don't have one, and a spoilt ballot is no substitute.


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Hmm by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #15 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:44:39 AM EST
There is surely some satisfaction to be gained by writing :

"COCKBITE"

on your form. If only to scare the poor counting person.

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New fangled nonsense by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #65 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:07:01 AM EST
I've been folding Daz into my ballots since 2001, and by jingo, I'll keep doing it until they make it illegal.

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You're correct, and I'm wrong by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #20 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:50:34 AM EST
But if there is an increased amount of spoilt ballots, it will be noticed and remarked upon.

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Do you really think so by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #22 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:54:00 AM EST
It might give them pause for reflection for a second but at the end of the day the number of seats in the Commons is what really counts.

I mean do you ever see Labour being worried that they failed to get even 40% of the popular vote in the last election and therefore lack a mandate.

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local impact by Merekat (4.00 / 2) #26 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:21:59 AM EST
I gather the way it works here is that although spoiling your vote has no impact on the results, tallymen observing from the individual parties will be able to read them, and in cases where the hold of a particular party is less than firm, note them as feedback rather than anything official. There's a lot of 'ifs' in that though, especially given the form of voting here.

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Good point by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #27 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:23:01 AM EST
But if millions of people wrote IT'S ALL A LOAD OF SHIT on their ballot papers, it'd be an issue at least.

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Too complex by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #64 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:06:00 AM EST
How about if we all just vote "Jedi"?

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On the other hand, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #53 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:04:06 AM EST
they're read, in case it's a muppet who put a tick instead of a cross, or something.

But still, the candidates will see it if you write 'You're all crap' on it.

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Actually by DullTrev (2.00 / 0) #54 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:13:21 AM EST

They probably won't. The ballots go through at a tremendous speed, and only those without a clear preference tend to be quibbled over, and then only if it's close. Oh, and it'll probably be the agents who see them, not the candidates.


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Don't you people have a spolier party? by MartiniPhilosopher (4.00 / 1) #78 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:14:44 AM EST
It's that the definition of the OMRLP?

Whenever I hear one of those aforementioned douche bags pontificate about how dangerous [...] videogames are I get a little stabby. --Wil Wheaton.

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Unfortunately by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #87 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:57:23 AM EST
They can only afford to field a handful of candidates. I'd probably vote for them if they stood in my constituency, they're ace.

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I saw that in by martingale (4.00 / 1) #21 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:51:02 AM EST
AMERICAN PIE 8, The Voyage To England. And I have to say, ewww, just ewww. What will they think of next?
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Stand by idiot boy (4.00 / 3) #14 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:41:38 AM EST
How's this for a Husi challenge. Pool our resources to get someone to stand somewhere on a 'sensible' and 'nuanced' platform.

Could be fun. Answering questions honestly :

"Yes I've done drugs. In fact I still do. I like them"

"Yes I've had sex with a donkey"

"No I don't go to church and suspect religeous people (all of them) of being slightly dim"

"I really dislike fish and chips and prefer a vodka tonic to a pint of beer"

Using nuanced positions.

Cor. The possibilities are endless. I vote for the 'borg.

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Vote Breaker in 2012 by Breaker (4.00 / 4) #32 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:47:05 AM EST
The Honesty Party Party.

I think I'd do a great job!  Chavscum first to the wall, then on to cancel Nebbish's benefits and put his tax up.


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Vote nebbish! by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #38 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:12:29 AM EST
  • MDMA in the water supply
  • 40% increase in ice cream vans
  • pavements to be painted yellow so dog shit shows up
  • Breaker to be crowned king!

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I see a coalition forming! by Breaker (4.00 / 3) #39 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:15:18 AM EST
What with your socialist tendencies and my fascist tendencies, we could actually form a creditable government where debate on social policy is based on merit rather than political dogma!


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RMG FOR PRESS SECRETARY by idiot boy (4.00 / 2) #40 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:34 AM EST
We could even use the trolls to poison the debate when things weren't going our way.

Actually, Alistair Campbell always gave me that impression anyway.

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Feh! by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #41 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:30:49 AM EST
There was a letter from Norman Tebbit in the Telegraph a while ago saying that the BNP were actually lefties so it might not be that strange anyway.

Actually, he has a point - a dumb one - but he has a point.

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Fascism by nebbish (4.00 / 3) #45 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:53:12 AM EST
Is just communism with added spite.

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Am finally reading Koba the Dread by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #49 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:58:19 AM EST
Very good if maybe a little hysterical and poorly footnoted.

Certainly an eye opener. Even now.

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Great book by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #55 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:25:36 AM EST
It is a bit hysterical, though surprisingly less so than the Gulag Archpelago.

Amis is just a great writer - what you get from the book is the feel of how fucking awful it must have been.

Changed my politics forever.

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Hey? by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #52 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:02:31 AM EST
What about yellow dogshit?

I'd have thought summary execution by Armed Community Wardens for people not collecting their dog's shit was the only solution.

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Excellent idea by Phage (4.00 / 1) #35 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:59:41 AM EST
One that I've propounded to people on at length (usually after a few pints).

Where is the Rational Party when you need them ?

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LIES by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #68 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:12:14 AM EST
Not that kind of ass.

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There's one councillor in Manchester. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #51 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:00:39 AM EST
I'm impressed. Last time I voted Green in Manchester, I was one of 86 voters for that candidate.

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They do better every election by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #61 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:06:26 AM EST
They've got a councillor (might even be two, can't remember) in Lewisham as well and a couple in Oxford. It's not a wasted vote any more. I've been voting for them in most elections since 1997.

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Hippy [nt] by idiot boy (4.00 / 4) #63 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:30:47 AM EST


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I bet you will by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #5 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:27:50 AM EST
It is a secret ballot after all.

Actually, I bet you've been doing it for years

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Secret by hulver (4.00 / 1) #9 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:35:01 AM EST
If you knew the right people, you could find out what he voted.

They don't write your number on the ballet paper for nothing you know.
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The right people by Vulch (4.00 / 1) #29 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:27:53 AM EST

And an awful lot of time. You've got to find the ballot paper in amongst all the others.

Once the number of ballots in each box has been counted and agreed with the polling clerks count they're sorted into heaps for each candidate and amalgamated with the ballots from other ballot boxes. You could land up going through 40,000 ballots for the main parties and eventually find he was one of the 146 who voted OMRLP.

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Hey now by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:38:25 AM EST
I definately remember voting Labour last time round. I wanted to keep that mad racist out of Hammersmith remember. Locally the council in Islington are a bunch of money grubbing gets. They've put controlled parking in at my new place for absolutely no reason.

There wasn't even a problem but now residents have to pay to park. Grrr.

Wouldn't it be great if MPs in general could have term limits. 3 terms tops then they have to find a job. Hah! Of course, that would just mean we'd be run by the civil servants. Aaarrgh!

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Only winding you up by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #16 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:45:04 AM EST
Parking - tell me about it. Sister's coming to stay this weekend, it's costing me 3.50 a day. But then that's what happens when people vote councils in on the basis of low Council Tax...

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Islington by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #17 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:47:32 AM EST
Can't stand 'em. Total wasters by the looks of things.

Doesn't matter anyway as I forgot to send off my postal ballot. Doh!


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Parking by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #50 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:58:49 AM EST
costs money. Why should it be subsidised?

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Good point by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #67 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:11:40 AM EST
I'll just withhold it from next year's Road Tax, shall I?

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Not at all. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #76 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:58:24 AM EST
As Vehicle Excise Duty is independent of the amount of road space used at each time.

I doubt that you pay any parking fees for your car in normal use anyway. Am I correct?

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Cough by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #80 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:19:21 AM EST
Council tax. Cough.

It's a scam dammit.

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Council tax is disproportionate and unfair, yes. by ambrosen (3.50 / 2) #82 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:34:31 AM EST
Still, I think some of the costs of on-street parking should be borne by those who park on the street. Motor vehicles are permitted to be driven on the road, not stored on them; the amount of damage caused to pavements by parking on them is large (and everyone else in this road who parks on street parks on the kerb); the reduction in on-road mobility is large; and the reduction in pavement mobility is large.

I know London bylaws forbid parking on the pavement, but this is not the case in the rest of the country.

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Hum by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #83 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:39:33 AM EST
I just get tetchy having had the joyful experience of having my car towed from outside my house twice.

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Annoying. by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #97 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:01:55 AM EST
Did you know it was liable to towing?

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Yup :) by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #100 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:07:26 AM EST
Well,

The second time I did. Having had the experience of the first. The thing is that there is no parking problem on my street and never has been. There is no good reason to zealously sweep up every car they can bloody well see.

Either way, I was too hung over to drive. Better towed than done for DD or kill some kid I reckon.

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3 is for WRONG by Rogerborg (3.00 / 1) #85 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:54:23 AM EST
You're a cyclist or something, right?  Vehicle Excise Duty is payable if your vehicle is driven or kept on a public road.  When I can dump my car on the road and declare SORN on it, get back to me.

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Yup. by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #90 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:40:51 AM EST
Cyclist.

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Unfortunately, by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #95 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:52:07 AM EST
the word that would insult me is driver.

I think I covered my difficulties with cycling in the hole a few months ago.

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3 is for replying to the WRONG comment. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #91 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:46:06 AM EST
But seeing as we're here, I might as well address it.

VED is something you pay if you have a vehicle for use on the public road. See how long it takes for the authorities to start getting uppity when a fully registered and dutied car that is unroadworthy (e.g. crash damaged) is parked on the road.

The payment of VED does not give the right to leave the vehicle for an arbitrary amount of time in any place on the public road, whereas it does allow an arbitrary amount of driving. Parking may be considered to be obstruction and tickets given as such, even where there are no parking restrictions defined.

I think that makes my position defensible, even if you choose not to agree, presumably because you refuse to admit the existence of most of the external costs, risks and inconveniences involved in your driving.

I drive far more than I'd like, but I do so aware of that.

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I'll read you what you wrote by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #98 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:04:28 AM EST
"Motor vehicles are permitted to be driven on the road, not stored on them"

Don't worry, I read that in a fairly avuncular voice.  It's not your fault that you don't understand that not all birds are sparrows.

I do like how you've just exempted me from paying road tolls though.  Very generous of you!

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Necessary but not sufficient. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #102 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:10:51 AM EST
Sorry I put it in the reply to Cloaked User, though.

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No need to apologise by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #106 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:49:32 AM EST
I blame your parents.  Communists, right?

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Conveyancer and school teacher. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #107 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:51:58 AM EST
Does that say enough for you?

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One taught by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #108 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 09:15:40 AM EST
And one carried things around?  Say no more.

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Wait a second. by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #109 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 09:18:12 AM EST
What happened to your ire at the housing market. That one set you up golden, like.

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The borg is right by Cloaked User (2.00 / 0) #92 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:46:27 AM EST
You have to have paid your current road tax duty in order to keep a motor vehicle parked on the road; if you don't pay up, you have to sign a SORN and get it off the road toot sweet.

Also, I'm not aware of any such by-law, unless it applies only to Central London. Certainly I've been in plenty of parts I'd consider to be London where people park cars partly on the pavement.


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I know that. by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #94 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:51:01 AM EST
It's a necessary but not sufficient condition for being permitted to park your vehicle on the road.

The bylaw forbidding pavement parking covers the whole of London. I can only find oblique references to it, I'm afraid. e.g. The Civic Trust.

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I don't doubt you by Cloaked User (2.00 / 0) #114 Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 01:17:02 AM EST
But I live in London (albeit a part that likes to think it's in Essex; we still have a Tube station and are in a London borough though), and almost all the streets around me have designated parking areas painted on the pavements. I suspect you'd be ticketed if you parked next to one and weren't halfway up on the pavement....


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In Marseille by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #101 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:10:37 AM EST
You get a ticket for NOT parking on the pavement.

And swearing at parking attendents. You get one for that too. Aparently...

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Parking is rent by gpig (4.00 / 1) #62 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:14:32 AM EST
We're stuck by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #3 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:25:56 AM EST
Labour are a pile of shit, but what exactly are the Conservatives offering? Knee-jerk policies, and a wierd sort of watered-down version of Blair.

Most importantly though, when it comes to civil liberties, the NHS, and a lot of other things I don't like about Labour, I don't think the Tories will be any different at all.

Funnily enough, at the local elections I'm going to vote Labour for the first time since 1997. Our Lib Dem-Tory coalition council is corrupt and useless (the head of housing recently defrauded them of twenty million quid and did a runner - they decided not to prosecute), and needs getting rid of.

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Tactical voting by jump the ladder (4.00 / 3) #10 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:36:49 AM EST
I'd vote Lib-Dem if they weren't a distant third in my constituency.

Dunno, I just feel unless you vote govts out from time to time, there's no incentive to improve and they just more and more arrogant and out of touch even if the alternative is not much better.

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Good point by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #18 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:48:03 AM EST
I can see why you'd vote Labour where you live, and you've got a good argument for getting rid of the present government. Food for thought.

Come the general election I'll probably be voting Lib Dem - any party that drinks heavily and sniffs shitty underpant gets my vote!

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They get too cozy by idiot boy (4.00 / 2) #23 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:54:46 AM EST
Both with the cushy job and with the civil servants. I'm always suspected that over time, the CS gets better and better at manipulating the bastards.

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In my experience by Phage (4.00 / 3) #37 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:07:22 AM EST
It's the other way round.
At first they rely on the CS because they don't have a clue, then as the arrogance and creeping realisation of their power creeps in, they start to overule the CS.
CS may be lazy feckless swine, but I would rather be governed by them than the arrogant Orwellian cocksmokers we have in government. The CS couldn't be arsed to make your life a misery, they'd rather be in the pub. Who could argue with that ?

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Pub??? by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #42 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:32:01 AM EST
Last time I looked, the all had drinks cabinets in the office.

You're probably right actually.

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WIPO by yicky yacky (4.00 / 2) #7 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:30:30 AM EST

"I don't see ... any alternative ... at all ... sir."

Scolari is convenient as he comes complete with his own pre-packaged chant.

He's a bit of a strange choice for the FA; but I am glad that they didn't go for McClaren. Curbishley would have a been a disappointing choice (and would have needed grammar lessons, to boot</miaow|snob>), with Sam Allardyce only marginally less so, but they are both better than McClaren, IMO. I'm glad they didn't buckle to the racist nationalist patriotic pressure and am also glad that Trevor Brooking's little West London / FA Tug-fest was vanquished but, by going for a "furriner" again so soon, they've probably inadvertently ruled-out Capello's chances for the next time around - and I'd quite like to have seen that team.

In short: I'd have preferred Hiddink (but he's too much of a maverick for the suits), or maybe O'Neill (nobody seems to know the full story with him, anyway), but Scolari really isn't bad at all. If they get him; well done the FA.


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Martin Jol by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #13 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:40:59 AM EST
Next time around. He's really taking Spurs somewhere, is nuturing a lot of young talent and understands and likes this country, having spent a lot of his playing days over here.

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IAWTJtL by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #34 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:59:00 AM EST
Jol has really done well with the Spuds; built a team fairly cheaply that has performed well for the last couple of seasons.  I can see them getting better again next year if they can get some more cash for players.


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Agreed by yicky yacky (4.00 / 2) #57 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:36:00 AM EST

He's a good manager, and is often interesting when 'handling' the media; perhaps too interesting for the FA's hyper-sensitive PR department, though.

I take great delight in noting that, as opposed to everyone else in this diary, we are at least discussing a political appointment which has the capacity to make a difference.


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They should let us use non-English players too! by dmg (2.00 / 0) #111 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:03:15 PM EST
After all, its no good having a top-quality manager from abroad if all your players are shit!
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Economy by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #19 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:49:30 AM EST
They've been lucky more than anything else. Brown's prediliction for fiddling is likely having a braking effect. I was talking slightly depressedly to some German colleagues last night and suggested that the UK was busy moving to a more GermanFranco economic model on the sly.

Can't be a good thing really.

God please not Brown.

German-Franco model by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #28 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:25:41 AM EST
Explain?

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German-Franco model by DullTrev (4.00 / 4) #30 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:44:46 AM EST

Foreign. Enough said, I feel.


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Surely you meant to type by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #36 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:05:02 AM EST
Nous sommes DOOOOOOOOOOOOOME!


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Government does everything by idiot boy (4.00 / 2) #48 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:56:55 AM EST
Annoys and frustrates you at every turn and guarentees that at any given time ~10% of people aggregate and much larger numbers of young peopleimmigrants are unemployed.

Too much pointless fiddling that achieves nothing.

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You do know by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #56 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:33:02 AM EST
That the only reason our unemployment figures are lower is that we have more people on sickness benefit?

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That's not the figures I saw. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #58 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:53:39 AM EST
50% of French 21-25 year olds are not in paid work. I think it's more like 20% for Britain, and the figures for all ages are similar, IIRC.

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Not in paid work by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #59 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:04:14 AM EST
Also includes people in higher education, of which there are more in France. Benefit figures are the most accurate.

It's all here

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Oi! by Breaker (4.00 / 2) #60 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:05:26 AM EST
Don't get me started, nebbish!


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Hardly by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #31 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:47:00 AM EST
Where's our jobs for life, lavish insurance funded health service, reliable public transport and high dole benefits then?

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Dole benefits, by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #47 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:56:31 AM EST
are perfectly high enough at the moment.

I find public transport and health service fine, too.

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creeping stealth Europeanisation by dmg (2.00 / 0) #112 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 04:07:11 PM EST
I've noticed this a lot. Most of the authoritarian stuff that is being forced down our throats, ID cards, no more trial by jury for certain crimes, removal of the right to silence etc by "happy" coincidence make our legal system more like the European one.

A reasonable protest vote is ukip...
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Voting by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #24 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 12:57:05 AM EST
IIRC, you're a contractor. Voting anything but Conservative is like turkeys voting for Christmas.

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Dunno by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #25 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:06:23 AM EST
I've only ever been a contractor under Labour and I've done alright. I don't mind paying a bit more tax (but certainly less than PAYE :))if I felt we were getting good value for money. Plus I've got other interests apart from my taxation level.

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The economy by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #33 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:57:54 AM EST
Largely is no longer in the hands of the government - about the only decent thing Labour have done in office was handing the reins over to the Bank of England.

I'm concerned with the budget deficit; we banked[1] a fair bit when the dotcom boom was on, but now we're sliding into borrowing again.  I can see Gordon "Texture Like Sun" Brown doing something about that when Blair goes; something like increasing it as he bribes the civil service with wage increases to vote Labour again and keep him in power.

[1] As in paid off a large swathe of debt


Clearly, the next HuSi MFC... by Metatone (4.00 / 2) #43 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:42:37 AM EST
should be an England single...

Good one by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #44 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:46:36 AM EST
Shame I have no musical ability at all but anything would be better than the lame 'official' one.

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World Cup single. by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #46 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 02:55:01 AM EST
Who do you think you are kidding, Jurgen Klinsmann? is a title and song in distinctly horrendous taste.

So what? by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #66 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:09:04 AM EST
Is probably what Blair is saying right now.  ISG bless the Parliamentary Democracy; there's precisely fuck all we can do to get these weasels out before 2k8 or more likely 2k9.  I'd advocate some form of direct action, but they just made that illegal, didn't they?

Blimey, the next fuel strike should be fun and no mistake.

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Speaking of which by Phage (4.00 / 1) #69 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:18:10 AM EST
If a Li-ion battery has a limited lifespan, the Prius doesn't look as attractive.

The next fuel/gas/water/medical care riots are only a few years away.

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The Prius has a NiMh battery by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #73 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:49:54 AM EST
You shouldn't believe everything that you read on Slashdot.

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s/everything/anything by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #75 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:06 AM EST


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s/believe (every|any)thing that you read on/read/ by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #84 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:51:47 AM EST

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I was going to make the traditional response by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #70 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:18:16 AM EST
But then it occurred to me that perhaps jovially throwing the T word around actually isn't a safe thing to do any more, and I stayed my hand...


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We may be living in fear by Rogerborg (4.00 / 2) #74 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:51:03 AM EST
We may have sacrificed our freedoms to obtain an illusion of temporary security, but at least the Te- They haven't won, eh?

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ph34r nott by martingale (2.00 / 0) #110 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 03:54:38 PM EST
There are 600,426,974,379,824,381,952 ways to spell terrorist. I'm safe as long as I don't write in French :)
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The economy isn't fucked up? by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #71 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:20:39 AM EST
Then how come average wages have fallen to under a fifth of average house prices?

What I have told you is true... from a certain point of view.

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But but by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #72 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 05:30:36 AM EST
Demented house prices are surely a sign of a healthy economy. Or maybe just crooked Estate Agents.

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But but by Rogerborg (4.00 / 2) #77 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:08:36 AM EST
Or a demented planning system that insists on building houses where people don't want to live.  Or on building fucking huge factories next to where they already live.

Maybe that's just me though.

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NIMBY by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #81 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:21:52 AM EST
Factories provide jobs you goddam saboteur (SP!)

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NIABY by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #86 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:56:10 AM EST
This thing shouldn't be in anyone's back yard, except perhaps a local councillor's.

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I should never forget by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #89 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:39:54 AM EST
That I am alone in finding oil refineries, nuclear waste dumps and day-release centres to be places of the greatest romance and rural joy.

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I saw a beautiful power station the other day. by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #93 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 07:47:14 AM EST
The colour of the cooling towers at Ironbridge is gorgeous. However, that's coal fired.

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You think that's cool by idiot boy (4.00 / 1) #96 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:01:13 AM EST
Check out the shadow cast by ferrybridge power stations cooling tower cloud :

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=53.718349,-1.296816&spn=0.024278,0.058537&t=k&om=1

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That's nice. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #99 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:07:01 AM EST
The cooling towers at Ironbridge are pink, too.

See here.

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Woah by idiot boy (2.00 / 0) #103 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:11:59 AM EST
OK. Yeah. That is very cool.

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Even better at sunset. by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #105 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:16:29 AM EST
They're in a lovely wooded glade.

Considering how ugly it made the rest of the world, Ironbridge is a stunningly beautiful place.

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Not quite alone [nt] by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #113 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 11:41:17 PM EST

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Amuses me by nebbish (4.00 / 3) #79 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:17:22 AM EST
How a healthy economy somehow makes everything shit.

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I just get a little concerned by Rogerborg (4.00 / 3) #88 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 06:58:52 AM EST
When regular working Joes just like me and thee pump billions into bricks and mortar, which will inevitably crash at some point.  It's not investment in any sense, unless you call causing banks to burst at the seams to be the start of a trickle-down waterfall.

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Well by idiot boy (4.00 / 2) #104 Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 08:13:37 AM EST
It's always been more the case of "Pissing up" rather than "trickling down".

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