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By nstenz (Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 07:35:27 PM EST) you're it (all tags)
In case anybody missed it like I almost did-

5 assholes are trying to repeal the 22nd amendment. That's the one that says the President of the United States is limited to 2 terms in office. (link) One of the sponsors is my good friend from down the road, Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner.



Besides all of the other stupid things he's voted for, you just can't trust a guy that won't use his first name.

Seriously though. FDR shouldn't have been in office more than 2 terms (at all, really), and neither should anybody else.

Maybe we should have a term limit for congressmen so Sensenbrenner can get the hell out of office too. Too bad he's out of my district by something like 20 miles; I can't even vote against him (or run against him, for that matter).

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that's crazy by martingale (4.00 / 2) #1 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:02:30 PM EST
Why do you people need 22 amendments? 21 ought to be enough for anybody.

But seriously, if people like Bush so much, they should be allowed to change the constitution to give him another go. That's the essence of democracy. It's not real democracy if people are limited by a 200 year old "constitution". That's like Ford's you-can-have-any-colour-as-long-as-it's-black.

Can't they do a proper referendum to ask the people directly if Bush deserves another term in office?
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right by theantix (2.00 / 0) #5 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:39:14 PM EST
It's not a real democracy unless the racial underclass is constantly rioting and burning cars in the streets, right?

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definitely not by martingale (4.00 / 1) #6 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:59:52 PM EST
If it were up to the docile god fearing middle classes, many of the western so-called democracies would still be monarchies. Oh wait, they are.
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in other news by theantix (2.00 / 0) #8 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 09:45:30 PM EST
How's that youth unemployment rate doing?  I figure that a bright lad such as yourself ought to start a factory making riot gear for both the oppressed racial underclass and the majoritarian police force keeping them down.  Of course, if you actually employed any of those French youths you'd have to pay them ridiculous wages until long after they are dead no matter how shitty they work, but I figure that's got to be worth the investment anyhow.  That's the brilliance that keeps your economy Number One right dude!

Oh, and I hear Le Pen is gaining a lot of support these days.  Prime Minister Le Pen, that has such a nice ring to it don't you think?

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economy? by martingale (2.00 / 0) #10 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:14:17 PM EST
Look man, don't worry your pretty little head about the economies of other countries. Many have been around a long time and aren't in danger of disappearing forthwith.

Some of them will also be around to help you people out again when you grow tired of orderly queueing for taxation without representation.
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"you people" by theantix (2.00 / 0) #13 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:30:26 PM EST
Methinks you assume too much, fine sir.  It's not just Americans who think that annoying french assholes who think they are superior such as yourself need to be taken down a peg or two.  In the case of a truly smug ignoramous like yourself though, perhaps two pegs isn't quite enough.

Seriously, take some pictures next time your racial and/or economic underclass starts to riot uncontrollably in the streets for weeks on end, I'd love to see your photodocumentary proving how wonderful your culture really is.  I'm sure we won't have to wait long...

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canada by martingale (4.00 / 1) #14 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 11:46:34 PM EST
is a monarchy, right? And its legal system is based on British common law, right? So not only are its people subjects of a little old lady, but the laws of the land have been fundamentally worked out by, and for the benefit of, squabbling inbred landlords and landladies. Sure, it was state of the art a hudred and fifty years ago.

Seriously, take some pictures next time your racial and/or economic underclass starts to riot uncontrollably in the streets for weeks on end,
Don't you have television in your part of the world? Rioting and demonstrating is common as dirt in France. (I think the government secretly likes the whip, but maybe I'm antropomorphising :).
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Is Le Pen still around? by lm (2.00 / 0) #20 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 03:48:02 AM EST
He's been the bugaboo of French politics since I was just a wee tyke. He must be pushing like 150 or something.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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yes, still around by theantix (2.00 / 0) #29 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 01:04:53 PM EST
And thanks to the frequent racially motivated riots in France these days, his popularity is very high -- polling higher then de Villepin last I heard.  He won't likely win, but it's still a good way to remind annoyingly haughty frenchies such as martingale that Americans don't have a monopoly on bad behaviour.

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Hypocrites by Weapon of Pack Destruction (2.00 / 0) #2 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:07:38 PM EST
But that goes without saying.  Term limits were one of the big issues in the Contract On America.

Why would you oust a War-time President? by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #3 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:21:39 PM EST
Bush has run this war longer than FDR prosecuted WW II, so if Americans could let FDR finish the job then, let's give GWB the chance to do the same now.

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

Excuse me sir, by BadDoggie (2.00 / 0) #7 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 09:04:35 PM EST
But you seem to have missed the news.

woof.

OMG WE'RE FUCKED! -- duxup ?

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Roosevelt quit by ad hoc (2.00 / 0) #21 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 03:55:38 AM EST
before the job was done. He left it to Truman to nuke the Japs.
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Well, all I know... by Vertical Frankenstein (2.00 / 0) #22 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 04:59:27 AM EST
...you don't change horses in the middle of the stream.

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I Would Rather by Improbus (2.00 / 0) #28 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 08:58:03 AM EST
GWB expire in office just like FDR except GWB should do it in his second term.



If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, the meal was cooked a long time ago. --- Oma Desala
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Double-U Tee Eff, over by FlightTest (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 08:27:05 PM EST
Sponsor: Steny Hoyer; House Democratic Whip

Co-sponsors:

Howard Berman: Ranking Democrat on the House Ethics Committee

Frank Pallone, Jr.: Serves as Communications Chair of the Democratic Policy Committee and is responsible for developing the party's message on the issues before Congress.

Martin Sabo: Also a Democrat, ironically retiring at the end of this year after 28 years in the House, and 18 years before that in the Minnesota legislature.

Sensenbrenner is the only Republican co-sponsoring this bill.

Is this some shot at embarrasing Bush and Sensenbrenner is too dumb to realize it? What's really going on here?



Polls by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #23 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 06:43:37 AM EST
If you look at Bush's numbers, it's pretty clear that he'd lose another election. Whichever Republican runs in 2008 will probably attempt to repudiate much of what he's done.

The Democrats would love to run another campaign against Bush. Look how close the election was when Bush had a 55% approval rating. Currently, it's at 32%.
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If I were cynical by FlightTest (2.00 / 0) #25 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 08:05:08 AM EST

I might suggest it's a pre-emptive strike to allow Hillary to serve more than 2 terms.

Yeah, this election will be interesting. Will the dems manage to field someone who has a hope of winning (which is a larger and larger number of candidates every day to be sure, but will not likely ever include for instance Cynthia McKinney), and who will the reps run? Cheney has I think said he won't run, as has Jeb, though I don't really follow politics closely, so I could be wrong.



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There is an argument by yicky yacky (4.00 / 2) #9 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:05:45 PM EST

in favour of unlimited-term leaders, which is that limited-term leadership may incline the incumbent to short-termist policy and public spending on the basis that they aren't going to have to be around to deal with the mess that they make. Limited-term leadership allows leeway for the incumbent to make knee-jerk and populist decisions which are neither responsible nor sustainable in the long term. Sneaking out of the door before the chickens come home to roost then becomes a more analyzed activity as it becomes something outside the scope of the 'normal' rules.


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you don't need unlimited terms for that by martingale (2.00 / 0) #11 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:22:36 PM EST
You can achieve the same end by having limited terms together with relaxed legal immunity while in office and afterwards.

One substantial advantage that limited terms offer is that it forces the office holders to act out their best ideas immediately, since they won't get a chance to do so later, and it kills the dead wood that builds up with people who used up all their best ideas and now have nothing more to contribute.


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And why would a liberal object to this? by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #12 Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:23:56 PM EST
Think Clinton (no, not the femdyke one) again in 2k8.  You got a better candidate hiding somewhere?

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That's what I was going to say by lm (4.00 / 1) #16 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 02:11:27 AM EST
If the GOP wants to run W again, let them, especially if he's going up against Big Dog.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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shrub would win (nt) by alprazolam (2.00 / 0) #17 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 03:11:26 AM EST
nt

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Only if he bonked an intern by lm (4.00 / 1) #18 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 03:43:24 AM EST
I think you overestimate the US public. Politics for the average USian has been a rather boring affair since the affairs in the oval office came to an end along with Clinton's final term.

Tabloid realities aside, did you know that WJC is the most popular president of the modern era? He's more popular than both JFK and Ronald Reagan. I don't think the GOP has anyone that could best Clinton in a head to head match up.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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No by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #24 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 06:52:38 AM EST
Clinton would mop the floor with Bush, especially the current 32% approval rating Bush.

A lot of Democrats like to pretend that Bush won two terms because of masterful politics, cheating, and dirty tricks. The truth is that Bush won two elections because the Democrats ran poor candidates and hideous campaigns.
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we'll never know but by alprazolam (2.00 / 0) #26 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 08:15:53 AM EST
i'd predict clinton would get negative votes in texas. somehow.

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I nearly lost control of the car yesterday, by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #15 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 02:06:54 AM EST
listening to NPR.

Some senator, I think it was Schumer was demanding that Bush "tell Congress what to do about immigration reform".

I know why he was saying this (he wants the Republicans to commit to a plan so the Democrats can attack it) but the idea of a Congressman demanding that the president tell Congress what to do - I was just floored.

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That's an [incorrect] colloquial term. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #19 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 03:45:09 AM EST
Many people mean "House of Representatives" when they say "Congress".

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Just so you know by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #27 Wed Apr 26, 2006 at 08:30:42 AM EST
Something similar was introduced both at the end of Clinton's second term and at the end of Reagan's second term. Those are the only two presidents to make two terms since Eisenhower, under whom the 22nd was passed.
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