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By ni (Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 07:11:26 PM EST) (all tags)
Additional velocipedary within!


Thanks to everyone who commented in my last diary. Your comments were extremely helpful, and definitely changed my mind about what I should be looking for.

It turns out that the store mentioned in the previous diary has a surprisingly detailed website. With this in mind, we enter round 2: Which specific bike do you recommend?

  1. It seems clear that I want either a mountain bike with slicks or a cyclo-cross.
  2. I think 256 is being very wise when he suggests losing the straight bars. The only bike trip I've done in something like 8 years was last year. It was only 100km or so, but it was on a mountain bike and my wrists (and, to be fair, ass and legs) were on fire by the end of it.
  3. I really, really need a way to carry stuff. Ad hoc paints a grim picture of carrying large amounts of stuff on your back, and gives several helpful suggestions for alternatives. It seems that while I could work around a lack of attachment points on the frame, the more built in carrying capacity I have the better.
  4. I'm 6'1"ish. The website mentions when they only have the bike in miniscual sizes, so those can be safely ruled out.
I'm still feeling pretty fucking overwhelmed with options here. I'll take any advice offered here pretty seriously, so if anyone wants to spend a few seconds window shopping and helpfully pointing out any particularly alluring options, I'd be most grateful.
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you may be 6'1" by persimmon (4.00 / 3) #1 Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 08:05:11 PM EST
But you're a champion-level slumper.

Configurations for carrying stuff vary with the stuff you're carrying and the manner of your terrain. My dad, for example, bikes to practice with his tuba. He uses a trailer.

Bear in mind that suspension doohickies limit load-carrying capacity; piling shit on top of can make 'em sit too low and defeat their entire purpose. And oh lordy, does carrying shit on one's back suck, especially if one needs to stand up for part of one's commute. Get a frame with freaking eyelets, ni, and install a rack.
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Slouched height: 5'7 or so. by ni (4.00 / 1) #3 Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 08:20:53 PM EST
Yeah, I can slump like nobodies business.

256 advises strongly against fancy suspension whatnots too. I think I agree with you -- the weight/inevitable breakage doesn't seem worth the small gain in riding comfort, particularly where I will mainly be on roads. It seems incredibly difficult to find a mountain bike without them, though -- at least locally.

This one lacks them, as well as having some eyeletish things. I'm not sure what to make of it, though. As mentioned above, it seems unusually cheap. It also has the disadvantage of being ugly as hell, although I guess this is a comparatively minor consideration.


Think metahistorically, act locally. -- CheeseburgerBrown
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Dude, you put Quasimodo to *shame*. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 3) #5 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 01:16:58 AM EST
If you're 6'1", I'm Meadowlark Fucking Lemon.

General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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Quasimodo, eldest of my proteges. by ni (4.00 / 1) #6 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 01:31:35 AM EST
It's true, he learned well, but not near well enough. Unable to learn the secret of slouching so severely as to fold space within yourself, he inevitably perished. The dark secrets of slouchdom were not meant for his control.

It's somewhere between 6'0" and 6'1". This is universally regarded with some suspicion, so you'll either have to take my word on the matter or wait until I make it to West Coastia.


Think metahistorically, act locally. -- CheeseburgerBrown
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DUDE YOU PHYSICLY ACCOSTED ME IRL. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #7 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 01:45:27 AM EST
YUO FAIL IT.

General rules are: All skirts no lower then [sic] two inches below the knee (unless it's for Church) --Travis Frey
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Shit. by ni (2.00 / 0) #10 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 04:46:51 PM EST
Last time this happened I ended up paying child support.

While I was utterly loaded for the duration of my stay in your presence, I do not recall you defending yourself from my accosting with a tape measure, thus rendering this data point invalid. If this is another of the many details from that weekend that "got lost to the haze", I sincerely apologise for this unwarranted slander.


Think metahistorically, act locally. -- CheeseburgerBrown
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Kinda like this by calla (4.00 / 2) #9 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 02:22:47 AM EST
NiBurns


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Excellent /nt by Dest (2.00 / 0) #11 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 08:44:10 PM EST
NO TEXT MUTHAFUCKA!
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Hello Meadowlark Fucking Lemon by Dest (2.00 / 0) #12 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 08:45:41 PM EST
How are you today?
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Addenda: by ni (2.00 / 0) #2 Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 08:10:05 PM EST
Having spent the past hour groping through their website, I'm more confused than ever. Many of the options that look appropriate are drastically less expensive than I'd expected. Others that are closer to what I'd expected to pay seem much more off-roady than I want. I'm completely baffled. Help!


Think metahistorically, act locally. -- CheeseburgerBrown


Your custom reply by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #4 Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 09:15:27 PM EST
You need to find someone at the bike shop you can trust and whose opinions you value. There can be a bewildering array of options, as you are finding out.

But I would say two things.

First, a very large percentage of the cost of a bike is in the components, all of which can be (and will have to be) replaced over time. Concentrate on a good frame, first and foremost, as a good one will never die. "What is good" is the tough question. Your bike shop should be able to help you with that. 

That "Altus" is pretty low end Shimano and I note that it's "24-speed drive train" (i.e. 3 front x 8 rear) which is also on the old side (top end is now 30-speed or 3 front x 10 rear). Don't forget, there's nothing wrong with old. When it wears out, or you feel the need to step up, you can always replace it with a 105, Ultregra, or even Dura-Ace level component. (My stuff is all Ultegra, I've found no need to go to the Professional level Dura-Ace.) Or even change manufacturers and go for SRAM or something.

But the main thing to remember is, everything can be replaced except the frame.

Second thing: find a shop and salescritter you trust. If you have any, and I mean any, heebie jeebies about them wanting to sell you something they want to sell you rather than something you want to buy, walk away. You'd be better off getting it online. Trust the vibe.

You're also not locked into what's on the bike. Most shops will swap out or upgrade components for the cost of the component (without charging a labor fee) when you buy the bike. So if you find a little extra cash, you can always upgrade something right then and there. I went through two sets of pedals and four saddles before I found one I liked.

Of the ones you linked to, I kind of like the look of either the Norco Rideau or the DaVinci St Tropez. The components are all pretty low end, and probably heavy. But there's really no way to know without taking it for a test ride. I also don't see any eyelets, but that could be the photo.

But I don't know either of those brands. I'd be more tempted to stick to the Giant (maybe the OCR3. At 6'1, you'd probably take a large, or maybe even XL (you'd have to go in person to get sized).

But, it's a really presonal decision.
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6 foot 1? seriously? by 256 (4.00 / 1) #8 Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 01:57:29 AM EST
i would have sworn you were a few inches shorter than me. you should see a doctor about that slouch.

seatpost-clamped carry racks do top out at about 12 or 13 kilos, but that should be plenty. how much do you really need to carry anyway? a decent tent and sleeping bag should weigh in at about 6 or 7 kilos. toss in a change of clothes and you've still got room for at least 4 litres of rum.

i'm not a big fan of any of the brands that store carries. the best bike for your purposes of the ones they carry is the Devinci Copenhagen. if that is out of your price range, the next best is probably the St-Tropez, though you get what you pay for with bikes.

either way you would definitely want drop or trial bars on it, and see if you could get them to put a proper (STI) set of shifters.
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I don't think anyone's ever really died from smoking. --ni


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