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By johnny (Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 02:13:53 PM EST) (all tags)
Longtime readers of these chronicles may recall that I studied Agricutural Economics as a graduate student at Purdue University in the late 1970's.

Truly obsessive readers of these chronicles may recall that for reasons technical and personal I never actually was awarded the master's degree, although I took all the necessary courses, wrote a draft thesis, and passed the thesis defense. I came within  virtual nanometers of getting the degree (Master of Science in Agricultural Economics), but never got it.

Persons who are me or my wife, or who are insanely perverse and perhaps psychotic readers of these chronicles, may recall that for more than 25 years I have daydreamed, sleepdreamed and otherwise wasted countless hours imagining an alternate life for me, the one I had intended for myself as a younger man, the life the degree was intended to create -- travelling around the world working with the hungering billions, figuring out ways to do things better.

I guess you might say that not getting that degree has really bugged me. I'm happy with my life; I really am. But I often feel that I'm a computer geek by total accident. I was supposed to be an ag-ec geek. So imagine my reaction when, two days ago the following email showed up in my inbox (here reprinted with permission):




Dear John,

I came across your article "Axl Rose Stole My Guitar" while doing a web
search about Earl Butz.   I really enjoyed your story and some of your
other diary entries.  I would very much like to find out more about you
and how you got where you are after your stint as a grad student.  I
learned some more about you at your Wetmachine website, but still can't
connect the dots between Purdue and where you are now.  Please indulge
me and some of my colleagues with more information.   We'd love to
feature you on the alumni area of our website, or maybe you could even
come back to Purdue for a visit.

Best wishes,

Sally

Sarahelen "Sally" Thompson
Professor and Department Head
Purdue University, Agricultural Economics
Krannert Building Room 653
403 W State Street
West Lafayette, IN  47907-2056

Thus began, two days ago, a remarkable exhange which is ongoing still, which has expanded to email conversations with several other professors in the department, including an invitation to me and Dear Wife to go back to Purdue to speak about some of our volunteer work, and most extraordinarily, offers to see if my 25 year old thesis might be resurrected, revivified and completed and resubmitted.

Now about the thesis: I have a draft of it around someplace, I think.  But what I don't have is the raw data that went into it, so there's no way in hell that I could actually complete the degree.  But it was so much fun to think about it!  As I said to the professor who volunteered to help me debug the old gremlin that derailed me:


Without the data, of course, we cannot ressurrect my bug. But just to imagine that we could ressurrect it and fix it!  It would be like one of those love stories where a pair of high-school sweethearts torn from each other by cruel fate improbably find each other again after decades apart and finally consumate their  love!

I cannot write the whole story yet, as there are lots of things happening.  I may not write much more about this for a few months, until after Betty and I have made our triumphal return to Purdue. There's a high probability that this story  will interest nobody but me, but I'll write it up anyway; it just may take a while.

Recently I wrote here about meeting Douglas Hofstadter.  That was a great thrill.  Life-validation wise, this development is of the same significance.

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heh by 256 (2.00 / 0) #1 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 02:39:02 PM EST
i myslef came within virtual centimeters of completing my undergraduate degree, but 'twas only three short years ago. also, i find at this stage that when i daydream about alternate-world-256 who actually received that degree in artificial intelligence and then went on to do graduate studies or work on neural network mutual fund solutions... well, i kind of think he's a chump.

anyway, the reason that i'm actually posting this comment has nothing to do with school and everything to do with much-belated kudos on "Axl Rose Stole My Guitar." Well done chap.

any chance of seeing you at husistock? i seem to recall once indicating that i would mail you a copy of my book in exchange for one of yours and then never following through like the undependable bastard i am. i could be better counted on to actually follow through in person.
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Probably not HuSiStock by johnny (2.00 / 0) #9 Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 02:25:09 PM EST
Because I have first-time-in-30-years reunion with my Peace Corps buddies that same weekend.

But send me a note at wetmachine & we can work out the swap.

She has effectively checked out. She's an un-person of her own making. So it falls to me.--ad hoc (in the hole)
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Karma Karma by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 3) #2 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 02:59:52 PM EST
You be rockin' it, johnny -- hang ten!


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I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da. We are a simple, grease-loving people who enjoy le weekend de ski.


For shame ... by lm (2.00 / 0) #3 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 04:46:31 PM EST
Too bad you didn't turn into a computer geek earlier. If you had, you'd have about seventeen gazillion backups of your data to choose some. You're biggest difficulty would be finding a copy stored on a medium that (1) didn't suffer from excessive bit rot and (2) can be connected to a modern machine.

But if you have the draft and the spare time, you can recreate the data, right?


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic


Fabricating data to support a thesis by mikepence (2.00 / 0) #4 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 06:49:33 PM EST
is what accounting majors do.

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I didn't suggest fabrication by lm (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 11:37:51 PM EST
The good sir Johnny's data had to come from somewhere. The draft of his thesis almost certainly explains where the data came from. Given enough free time, and the inclination, he can probably recreate those conditions and get new data.

Shame on you for thinking I was suggesting he falsify the data!


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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It was hollerith cards by johnny (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 02:17:55 PM EST


She has effectively checked out. She's an un-person of her own making. So it falls to me.--ad hoc (in the hole)
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So what are you saying? by lm (4.00 / 1) #10 Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 04:16:06 PM EST
No backup required?

You know better than that. I threw thousands of those damn things away when we cleared out my dad's house after his passing. They weren't as much fun to toss into the dumpster as the hard disk packs in the 12" plastic cases.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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Information Technology by mikepence (4.00 / 1) #5 Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 06:52:41 PM EST
puts too many of us in golden handcuffs. Keep writing johnny, your day will come...and when it does, can I shack up in your garage so I can write too?



redemption at the hands of Google, by Kellnerin (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 02:18:17 AM EST
and serendipitous linkifying. Axl's theft shows up on page 6 of a search on "earl butz purdue" (a few links below the State Street church napping story, but no link attached to the mention of Dr. Butz). Your other tale is MIA for the next several pages of results (and I'm not linking it now -- don't want to mess with the Google).

Great story. The case of the missing data and the elusive bug. I'm keeping "Ag Econ Redemption" on my "remind johnny list", for a few months hence.

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