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I have just switched back from firefox.

By priestess (Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:18:23 AM EST) (all tags)

It finally got too much for me, I missed my handy little tools/cookie-manager/Allow-Cookies-From-This-Site function too much.

It was also annoying that even with the popup blocker turned on, clicking a "href target=" link would pop up a window. I told you NOT to pop up any windows unless I ask by pressing the middle mouse button you fuckers! And even then I'll want a new TAB not a new window.

Lordy.

So back to Mozilla 1.7.5 for me. The only things Firefox did that this doesn't is that little search textbox in the top-right corner, and I never used that anyway. Why would I with my homepage set as a local copy of this page?

Still using Safari on my new apple powerbook though. It's loaded with hella lots of plugins to make it useable. I missed type-ahead search SO MUCH when it wasn't there.

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New Apple? by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #1 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:26:12 AM EST

I thought you were skint?

I am skint by priestess (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:27:22 AM EST

When I say my new apple, what I mean it works new apple that I'm looking after for them for as long as I work for them.

Heh.

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So it is insanely great by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:33:48 AM EST

Or just another 'puter. Never used a mac myself.

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: Well, with a bit of fiddling it's unix by priestess (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:04:04 AM EST

Which is insanely great of course, but kinda accustomed to it being that way. Lots of annoying things with keyboard-shortcuts being not quite the way I'm used to them, stuff like that, but once you get accustomed it'll be fine.
The filesystem is arranged differently, but I've set up lots of symlinks :)
I like the way it seemlessly changes from wired-net to airport to blue-tooth.
OS X is better than the windows OSes that I've spent time with, but then I haven't really used XP much. I grabbed me a 3-button mouse pretty quickly too. Why do they insist on that one button thing? Weirdness.
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Erm, by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:27:07 AM EST

ahem.

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And also by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:41:23 AM EST

The cookie tool's still there. It's under (Tools|Edit)* -> (Options|Preferences)* -> Privacy -> Cookies -> Exceptions.

Those config options linked-to above can be entered by using 'about:config' in the menu bar - you don't have to hack the .js file, as they claim.

Annoyed me too until I found out.

[* - OS-dependent]

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That's no good. by priestess (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:57:39 AM EST

So I'm browsing some shop, with cookies blocked as usual. And I click "Buy" and it complains I need a cookie. Fair enough. With 1.7.5 I click tools, then cookie-manager, then enable and it's done.

With that crazy dialog I have that many click before I get to the exeptions list (which takes ages to load) and THEN I have to TYPE the name of the site into the exceptions box (no "this site"? Why not?)

Much better the moz way

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: I guess it depends on the 'use cases' by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:07:01 AM EST

In my case I tend to 'allow from originating server only' and then have a (reasonably long) list of ones which should always be blocked in the 'Exceptions'. For my way of doing things, Firefox works just as well. You can set the combination of options up to as a kind of 'map' which covers most popular browsing modes, with the least favourable being your particular choice. In short: I can see why they did it but, you're right, it doesn't help that much in your case.

Honestly don't know why they left the extra tab prefs hidden. UI space? Not as thoroughly tested? I agree, though, they should be on by default, or at least visible.

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Ahha by priestess (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:58:48 AM EST

Well that might be useful, if it were more commonly known. I wonder why they hid the options like that? I searched everywhere in the menus.

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: Lots of hidden options by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:16:36 AM EST

Presumably because they can be Dangerous in the Wrong Hands or something. The speedup stuff described in this comment can, theoretically, hammer a server.

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Switched from moz by Merekat

(2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:55:39 AM EST

Switched to Firefox and Thunderbird and won't be going back for the simple reason that a crash while browsing doesn't kill my mail any more and a crash while searching mail doesn't pull down my browser.

These may not be the reasons of ringing endorsement that the respective projects would like though.

: Mutt by priestess (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 12:59:51 AM EST

I use mutt for mail anyway, so I can shell in and check it from anywhere mostly.
I haven't met a graphical-email-client I liked. They're all woefully short on keyboard shortcuts.
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Missed opportunity. by random (4.00 / 1) #13 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:25:37 AM EST

The comments to your diary would have been much more amusing if you'd said you'd switched back to Internet Explorer.

Actually I may go and post a diary of my own saying just that to see what happens.

Heh by priestess (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:48:20 AM EST

Trouble is, of course, I don't think IE does the things I missed either. Does it? Haven't used it in years, becasue it definately doesn't run on my 'nix machines even if I wanted it to.

So my lie would be exposed in no time.

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Use crossover plugin on Linux by wiredog

(2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:57:21 AM EST

if you want to run IE on Linux.

Earth First!
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Is it by random (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 01:59:26 AM EST

security-hole for security-hole compatible?

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: Unfortunately, no by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 02:20:15 AM EST

Or so I've heard. I've not actually used it myself. A review of it is here.

Earth First!
_{(We can strip mine the rest later.)}
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I have Firefox installed on my work and home PCs by gazbo

(2.00 / 0) #18 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 04:02:32 AM EST

Yet I prefer to use IE for day-to-day browsing, and almost never use Firefox.

So there you go.

And no, I've not been haxx0red or w0rm3d once. Because I'm not a moron.

"Engarde!" cried the larvae, huskily. - Scrymarch

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: Yes, by random (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 04:21:36 AM EST

But it's a sorry state of affairs when a moron can't use a browser without their computer being 0wned.

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I have just switched back from firefox. | 19 comments (19 topical, 0 hidden) | Trackback

-	Yes, and I'm still using it	80%
-	Yes, and I switched back to IE	5%
-	Yes, and I switched back to Moz	5%
-	Yes, and I switched back to Opera	10%
-	Yes, and i switched back to Safari	0%
-	No, haven't got around to it	0%
-	No, what's a firefox?	0%


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