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By yicky yacky (Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:22:34 AM EST) (all tags)

But I know a bus is gonna come
Oh, yes it will ..."

Inside: The new rapper on the block, Stuffah Nonsenz. Plus a Radio-4-style poll.

Footie-o-meter: Yeah, a little bit, probably ...



Not much to say today. Just a few random blips.

Geek: I've been looking at random build tools. As a longtime Loonix sympathizer, I'm well familiar with the ./configure -> make -> make install procedure and have written config.m4 scripts for buildconfig before, but have never taken that much intense interest in the systems as a whole, usually just rolling with whatever was being used for any given project. I've got to look at initiating a project where I've a lot more autonomy than usual, and have to decide on various mechanisms to use, one of of which is the build toolchain.

Aside from make, I'm also familiar with jam and its variants (as used by perforce, boost, and the freetype projects). To be honest, I'm more familiar with the intricacies of jam than make, even though I've 'used' make far more as an end-user / worker-monkey. Are there any alternatives to these two? Why has make become the dominant methodology? GNU presence? History? I'm tempted just to roll with jam, but am wondering why make is ubiquitous, and if this ubiquity offers any advantage to using jam.

Swiss Army Chainsaws == Utter fucking time tarpits ...

Books: I'm roughly two-thirds of the way through 'Quicksilver' by Neal Stephenson. Besides wanking off about the amount of research he's done and performing the cheap post-modern authorial trick of connoting a character's genius by ascribing thought processes from later times, does anything actually happen?

I've also been reading 'The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat' by Oliver Sacks. Very interesting, especially when read after Vilayanur Ramachandran's 'Phantoms in the Brain'. Are you really in control of your mind?

Svengate: I see Faria Alam has contracted Max Clifford (in both senses). If the F.A. thought this was behind them, boy are they wrong. That guy could incite a violent uprising in a buddhist temple ...

Footie: ... Actually, nah, can't be bothered today - lots of little tidbits - nothing that inspiring ...

Have a funky weekend.

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Books by Phage (6.00 / 1) #1 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:30:23 AM EST
Just finished Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.
A good read, probably his best since Neuromancer.
Recommended.

Founder member Golgafrinchan 'B' Ark


Cheers. by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #2 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:37:16 AM EST

I keep being reminded about that, but somehow I manage to forget every time I'm actually in the bookshop.


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Poll by herbert (6.00 / 1) #3 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:41:32 AM EST
Ocean-going yacht, and copy of "Ocean-going yachting for beginners".

No doubt you will say this is also "cheating".

I don't know my proper answers really.  Solar powered indestructible laptop, or failing that a lot of paper and pens.  Complete works of Saki for the book possibly.




Hmmm. Poll Technical Corrigendum v. 3.07 by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #6 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:54:03 AM EST

Subsection 4, Paragraph 8d:

The island in question is surrounded by all manner of grizzled mean mothers with low patience thresholds who will shoot down, scuttle, destroy, revert, whatever, any form of escape attempt. You're staying there, bub. HAND.

Nice attempt, though. :)


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they haven't spotted my tunnel yet though by Dr H0ffm4n (6.00 / 1) #9 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 06:12:42 AM EST


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But what are you digging with? by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #12 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 07:50:04 AM EST

Besides, it's six thousand miles to the nearest land, and that's a nuclear testing atoll.


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My luxury item is a teaspoon by Dr H0ffm4n (3.00 / 0) #14 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 07:55:20 AM EST
A magic teaspoon.

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Now, now. by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #17 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 08:24:44 AM EST

That stuff'll kill you. A Doctor should know better.


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Please make sure you have read the faq by snugglebunny (6.00 / 1) #4 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:44:11 AM EST
John Brunner - A Stand on Zanzibar

A .22 Air Rifle and a lot of pellets, target shooting is so much fun.


-- Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it - Black Box Recorder : Child Psychology


WIPO by fritz the cat (6.00 / 1) #5 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:47:21 AM EST
Luxury Item: G4 laptop with speakers + 500Gb external hard disk stuffed with tunes.

Book: a specially commisioned edition of Patanjali's Yogasutra with the original text, an English translatio, all the major commentaries, and a teach-yourself Sanskrit appendix.

That should keep me busy for years.

[Ed.: currently a dormant account - posting on behalf of extremely tedious HuSer]


That's commitment. [nt] by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #7 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:55:44 AM EST

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Assuming... by Metatone (6.00 / 1) #8 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 04:59:49 AM EST
no power sources available...

lots of pencil and paper would be my luxury...

hm.. book... probably Essays by Montaigne



make by ENOENT (6.00 / 1) #10 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 07:27:57 AM EST
make is nice because it has so few features.

Really, how much time do YOU want to spend learning the language and feature set for a build tool?

With make, if you know how to declare dependencies, how to recognize a suffix rule (though not necessarily to write one), and the rudiments of Bourne shell programming, you're golden.


Life is just one damned thing after another.
Love is just two damned things after each other.




make by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #16 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 08:23:35 AM EST

Yeah - make is clearly the way of doing things. I have no real complaints about putting the time into any learning experience necessary - sometimes I even quite enjoy it - but one of the things which slightly puts me off make is that it's just one component of a much larger system, all of which is interlinked in some way. Every time I try to look into it I get this nagging feeling that I'll end up marching down a trail that never ends: autoconf, automake, libtool, M4, make itself etc.

As an application, Jam is much more complicated than make, but is more "standalone" and I'm more used to it. I can't help feeling that I ought to know make properly, though.


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My items by damballah (6.00 / 1) #11 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 07:32:16 AM EST
I would pick "Gobel, Escher, Bach" as my book of choice. A luxury item would be a hippie-computer with internet access, of course.

Interestingly enough I have the "SAS/Graph Software REference Guide Version 6" (Volume 1) and the "SAS/QC Software - Usage & Reference" (Volumes1 and 2) on my table. Definitely not desert island material.



quicksilver by LilFlightTest (6.00 / 1) #13 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 07:51:40 AM EST
i ended up skimming. the second book is...well it almost reads like a friggin textbook, instead of a novel. some parts were really neato and interesting, but others were downright boring.
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Yah. by yicky yacky (3.00 / 0) #15 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 08:05:34 AM EST

Quicksilver's sort of interesting, in a chain-of-isolated-quirky-capsules kind of way, but I'll be a bit disappointed if I get to the end and discover that's all there is to it.


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you'll be disappointed. (nt) by LilFlightTest (6.00 / 1) #18 Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 02:16:23 PM EST

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