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"When he condemned the war in Iraq...

By ti dave (Sat Aug 14, 2004 at 08:24:07 PM EST) (all tags)

...he pictured it this way: Baghdad was happy and safe until cowboys Bush and Blair came" Saudi columnist Reem al-Saleh wrote in Kuwait's Al-Siyassah daily.
"He ignored 30 years of muscle-flexing invasions, villages massacred by chemical weapons ... millions of bodies, and mass graves. He has no right to hide the full truth."

Dalal el-Bizri, a Lebanese sociologist based in Cairo, Egypt, warned that the movie
"should not be allowed to reinforce the hatred that people feel for America.
If you have a problem with the United States, hatred will not solve it," she said.

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You left out the best quote by BadDoggie

(6.00 / 1) #1 Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:07:41 AM EST

"In every Arab country we need one Michael Moore or more."

And we could use some Saudi-style public beheadings. It would be a much more effective death penalty than the current sanitised and closed pageant we have now.

woof.

"Eppur si muove." -- Galileo Galilei
"Nevertheless, it moves." ‮

: IAWTP by ti dave (3.00 / 0) #5 Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 01:35:26 AM EST

Heh.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. --W.S. Burroughs
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Did you see Moore's latest spin? by lm (6.00 / 1) #2 Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:10:09 AM EST

He's showing an interview with Porter Goss about how Goss thinks that he wouldn't be qualified to be a field agent in today's CIA because of his lack of knowledge of Arabic and lack of computer skills. The conclusion Moore is drawing is that Goss thinks himself unfit to head the CIA. That seems to me to be a pretty big non-sequitor.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic

interesting by johnny (6.00 / 1) #3 Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:13:28 AM EST

The range of responsess seemed consistent with the range of responses I've seen here in USA. Actually, none of the Arab commentators denounced the movie as strenuously as I've seen it denounced here.

As for myself, I thought the movie was great. To say that the movied ignored Saddam's history is true but silly. It did make the point that there were happy children in Baghdad even under Saddam, and that some of those children got blown up by our bombs. That's a simple fact, jack. I has nothing to do with Saddam. It has to do with the reality of war.

Plenty of other sources have told, and continue to tell, the "Saddam was bad man" part of the story. OK, we get that. Moore was exploring parts of the story that were not being told--or at least not told here in USA.

Anyway I think the range of responses accross the Arab world is fascinating. From Kuwait, whose "freedom" was redeemed with American lives, where the film is banned outright, to Saudi where you can probably get beheaded for even mentioning it, to Egypt and elsewhere, where peoples' reactions seemed discerning. . .

"Every Arab country needs a Michael Moore. . ."

She has effectively checked out. She's an un-person of her own making. So it falls to me.--ad hoc (in the hole)

: Some things have indeed gotten worse in Iraq by lm (6.00 / 5) #4 Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:20:34 AM EST

For example, there is a new war against Christians that could never have occurred under the Baathist regime. Hussein's iron fist would never have allowed one Church to get bombed, let alone five. Nor would his jackbooted thugs have allowed the intensity of death threats against the Christian minority that is now playing out.
Getting rid of Hussein can only be determined to be a good thing if his regime is replaced with something better. We don't yet know what the new Iraq will look like. There are, however, some indications that it will be at least as repressive as the Baathist party. How Iraq will treat its Christian, Sunni and Kurdish minorities in the future will be an interesting series of events to watch.
There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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