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By tlt (Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 10:37:49 AM EST) (all tags)
Greetings,

First off, I apologise if this comes across as a rude interjection on my part. I don't know how one ramp's up to post such things. I will begin with hopefully the best intentions...



My parents have had a large influence on my life, from an early age. I received a lot of reinforcement while I lived at home. Don't be lazy, do well at school, treat people with respect. I suppose this is quite normal, however my parents seemed exceptionally stubborn. Of course the result of this was that I was very lazy at home, and I very much loathed and detested school and everything that it stood for. Mysteriously, perhaps because I was a bit of a pussy, I did try to treat everybody with the same respect I desired. And also, I did manage to mimic their stubbornness and even surpass it.

Anyways, as a result of this, there was a painful period up until I was 21 and living at home (I lived at home while I went to university, big mistake). But I finally graduated and moved out, and have been lucky to be gainfully employed for the past 3 years. I have learned a lot, and expanded my horizons in certain ways.

I am now quite ready to pursue my own path, shed some more of the baggage bestowed upon me by my upbringing. My shyness and confidence issues have been battled to a somewhat manageable size and I think I am ready to handle some bigger problems.

Now my friends and family are for the most part small town folk. Despite growing up in a city for the most part, my family is still basically a farm family. My dilemma is a realisation that there seems to be a cognitive dissonance now between what I was raised to be (not just by my family, but by my schools and peers), and what these same people seem to expect from me now as a young adult. I feel a great deal of internal pressure to better myself intellectually and spiritually because of my past experiences, and amazingly I think I have a general plan to follow. But I am feeling a vibe of marriage, children, house, and general 'responsibility to the community' all around me. I don't see myself heading in that direction, at least not yet.

It's not that I am not lost, I feel very lost, I am just pretty content with the journey right now. I have quit my job developing software at a respectable (to some people) company and have sold my vehicle, moved my books and what's left of my possessions into storage, and await my last day of work, before I head off into the unknown.

But of course I have to now wonder, am I just becoming a pathological intellectual, shirking responsibility and built up social relationships in pursuit of a baseless dream or childhood fantasy? Am I on course to become another rolling stone?

I am sure many people come to a point like this in their lives, what do they do? Any ideas?

PS. Nice site, Hulver. I love the spell check, how civilised! goodbye zee's!

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Spend half a year abroad. by komet (5.00 / 2) #1 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 10:59:00 AM EST
IMAO you need to see different cultures and ways of life. Get out of the US (I'm assuming that's where you are), and try Europe and/or Asia. This will give you more reference points to compare yourself with.

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well thank you by tlt (3.00 / 0) #4 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:14:38 AM EST
that was my plan when I quit my job, head to France and bum around Europe a bit, try to pick up some more French, etc.

I guess I am having second thoughts right about now, worrying that it will just be a waste of time. Nobody around here is really that positive about the idea.

And also, I am from Western Canada, but sadly for us you were close enough.

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You care too much about what other people think by komet (3.00 / 0) #5 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:23:08 AM EST
and I would wager that none of them have actually been abroad themselves.

I know nobody who's been abroad for a while (and I know many, as it's common in Europe) who regrets it in the slightest. On the other hand, I never did it and it's one of my big regrets. Do it sooner rather than later, because it's one of those things you need the remnants of your childhood wonder to appreciate fully.

Let me know if you should pass through Switzerland...

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childhood wonder by tlt (3.00 / 0) #13 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:59:35 AM EST
After 3 years 'on the job' I felt as though a part of me was disappearing. I wasn't sure if I should call it maturing, but now that you mention it, childhood wonder does seem like an appropriate descriptor. I think it is not too late for me, I may be just in time.

I met a guy from Switzerland who claimed he could not speak English, however after a short few minutes of slow conversation he seemed a more able conversationist in english than many anglo-Canadians I know. Of course the 4 or 5 other languages that he did know were not uttered during our conversation due to my ignorance. It seems like a fascinating country. I will look you up if I pass through that way.

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IAWTP by Metatone (5.00 / 1) #17 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:34:39 PM EST
wherever you are from, you can benefit from seeing elsewhere... it might not benefit your bank balance, but in the long run it will benefit your mental balance.

Once you've seen more than one way of life you are much better equipped to deal with the world as it is...

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I got a couple of guinea pigs by gpig (6.00 / 1) #2 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:01:23 AM EST
Mine were black, but you could get any colour. It's best to avoid show breeders and pet shops — just get them from someone who keeps them as pets, if you can.
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if by that you mean by tlt (3.00 / 0) #7 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:27:36 AM EST
this, then message received.

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That, and by gpig (6.00 / 2) #16 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 10:29:03 PM EST
that small things can make a difference to your life too.

If you don't like small things you could get capybara instead[1].

[1] but remember it's cruel to keep them without a large body of running water for them to play in, they are semi-aquatic.
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No advice. by blixco (5.00 / 1) #3 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:08:59 AM EST
Be who you are.

I mean this.  You need to do whatever it is that you are going to do.  Fuck the advice of others.  You think anyone else has done things the right way?
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Journeying through the world
To and fro, to and fro
Cultivating a small field.
-basho


Nonsense by sien (5.00 / 1) #6 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:25:16 AM EST
Be someone else. In fact, be a Tele Tubby. We need more of them. Wander around your city going eh-oh. This will make you much happier.


Umm, did you really quit and drop out? What R U going 2 do?


Nobody knows anything - William Goldman.
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You are a terminal fool. by blixco (3.00 / 0) #8 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:27:42 AM EST
(n/t)
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Journeying through the world
To and fro, to and fro
Cultivating a small field.
-basho
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Stop talking crap, this is a serious question. by komet (3.00 / 0) #9 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:28:20 AM EST
I mean, if you're going to be someone else, you should at least get a decent superpower. Teletubbies' Speech Of Incomprehension is pretty crappy compared to Real Ultimate Power.

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playing the default character by wiremind (3.00 / 0) #10 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:37:52 AM EST
playing the default character always seems like a pretty well rounded decision.

of course, i was never much of a well rounded person, so what would i know...


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Do not by sien (3.00 / 0) #15 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 04:04:37 PM EST
Underestimate the power of the tele tubbies. It is subtle and engaging. Their powerful time replay ability and reality television distration are not to be meddled lightly with.

Nobody knows anything - William Goldman.
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I know you are right by tlt (6.00 / 1) #11 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:46:31 AM EST
it is just a degree of acceptance and understanding of that fact that I am struggling with. It saddens me that what I think I need to do involves abandoning certain people to some extent. And so there are doubts, but I think I can overcome them.

Thanks for your honesty.

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Respect by Dr H0ffm4n (6.00 / 1) #18 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:52:20 PM EST
What are you 24? In my book that makes you an adult who should make their own decisions. Your family and friends should have enough repsect for you to make you own decisions. And you should have respect and understanding for their feelings, but not necessarily be in thrawl to them. It seems you're doing ok on both counts. You're growing a pair.

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itoo havebeen subjected to such treatment recently by wiremind (3.00 / 0) #12 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 11:46:31 AM EST
" what these same people seem to expect from me now as a young adult "

while i try to honor my farther and mother as best i can; and i believe that normally parents do know best, this is not one of those times.

like blixco said, 'just be yourself' its not half as easy as it sounds. but then again, from the sounds of it, your doing better than most people already.

good luck with whatever you do.

Kyle



and to you as well, thanks! (nt) by tlt (3.00 / 0) #14 Wed Jul 21, 2004 at 12:08:47 PM EST


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Oh mate by Breaker (6.00 / 1) #19 Thu Jul 22, 2004 at 01:41:02 AM EST
What are you waiting for?  Get booking flights now!

Plenty of time to come back and settle down and do the traditional 2.4 kids and mortgage bit.  For now - you're young (24-25?), presumably single, and no dependants.  You've quit your job, sold your car, closed down all your life.  Get out there and have it!

Someone else posted that they'd never met anyone who'd been abroad for any length of time who regretted it.  Yet there's countless people out there that wish they'd done a bit of moving around before they acquired responsibilities that meant they could do so no further.

You're not abandoning your family, or your friends; you'll be back after a while.  And the possibilities for personal growth are immense when you're on the road, having to find places to stay, things to eat when you can't speak the local lingo...

That's not fantasy or infantile; it's real life experience.  Of other cultures, food, people, places.  Go watch the monks at Angkor Watt, the sun rise over Uluru, walk down the Champs Elysees, spend a moment in St Mark's Cathedral, feel the love story behind the Taj Mahal, drink reindeer piss in Scandinavia, smoke weed in Amsterdam, drink rum in jamaica and tequila in mexico, run with the bulls in Spain, smoke a nargile in Istanbul, have breakfast in Tangiers.

Your family'll still be there when you get back, and I think you'll be able to negotiate a more equal relationship with them by then...




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