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By PhysicsGenius (Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:06:23 AM EST) (all tags)
Anyone could have predicted this--"statistical dynamics" is indistinguishable from sociology. Polling atoms on their probability of striking a wall is a ridiculous way to do science--they have no brains! But now we have definitive proof that the claims of thermodynamicists are fundamentally contradictory.


In a gas, heat is motion, we are told. At 0°K, all motion is absent and we have the ultimate cold solid. Add any heat and atoms of the solid begin vibrating. Continue adding heat and eventually the atoms break free and become liquid. (Aside: Has anyone ever heard of liquid wood or liquid carbon?) Add still more heat and the liquid changes to a gas. As you add more and more heat, the atoms move faster and faster and we supposedly register this energy as heat which we measure as temperature. The converse claim is that if we register a higher/lower temperature we know that the constituent atoms of the gas are moving faster/slower.

Because thermodynamicists say they are rational scientists, I'm sure they'll be willing to be falsified. So let us perform an experiment on this most basic of claims, that higher temperature<->faster moving atoms/molecules.

Let's take the ambient atmosphere at ground level as our gas. Put your arm out and estimate the air temperature. An exact measurement isn't necessary, as you'll soon see. Nor is it important to know the absolute value of the average molecular velocity of the air, because this is going to be a relative measure. Just let that average velocity be V. Now hop in a car and head down the highway at the speed limit. Put your arm out the window. Estimate the temperature again. In my own experiments I have found that my arm gets uncomfortably cold, even in the middle of summer. But the average molecular velocity is V+car speed, which is faster that V no matter how you slice it. Faster molecules->lower temperature. Thermodynamics is proven false.

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Excellent summary by R Mutt (6.00 / 5) #1 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:16:43 AM EST
You truly are a genius.

For another example, consider leaving the house on a cold winter morning and going up to your bicycle, which has been chained up outside all night.

According to so-called "thermodynamics", having been out all night all parts of the bicycle should be at the same temperature, being in "thermodynamic equilibrium". But touch the handlebars and they're freezing cold; touch the saddle and it's relatively warm.

It is time to put this myth of thermodynamics to rest.

Well when you touch something... by the (3.00 / 0) #7 Thu May 20, 2004 at 05:41:37 AM EST
...you ain't feeling the temperature of the thing you're touching - you're feeling the temperature of your body part, let's say your finger. This is warmer than its surroundings because it's heated by your body. When you touch the handlebars the metal quickly conducts away the heat of your body lowering your finger temperature and you register that the metal is cold. Touch the saddle, which doesn't conduct heat as well, and your body can keep your finger heated and so it doesn't feel as cold.

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don't forget your SHC factor by Dr H0ffm4n (3.00 / 0) #8 Thu May 20, 2004 at 06:10:44 AM EST
and that of the seat/handlebar.

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Um... by DullTrev (6.00 / 4) #2 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:18:27 AM EST

Do you then make a right or left turn? (depending on the side of the car your driver's seat is on...)


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Yes! Yes! by greyrat (3.00 / 0) #3 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:33:58 AM EST
Let's not get involved with the thermodynamics involved in the liquid water in your flesh being used as a heat-transfer medium...

Arm out window experiment by ENOENT (5.00 / 1) #4 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:34:47 AM EST
You must not live in Arizona.


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Courtesy Jacek Kobus: by ti dave (3.00 / 0) #5 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:37:50 AM EST
LIQUID CARBON is difficult to produce because a sample of solid carbon, melted quickly by a laser, will want to repose back into the form of graphite. Physicists at the Russian Academy of Sciences (Moscow) have sought to melt carbon with picosecond laser pulses, and report the observation of a liquid phase, the evidence being the fleeting presence of periodic stripes in microscopic pictures of the tiny (200 micron) spots on a graphite surface under bombardment. The researchers argue that the stripes could not be present in a fully solid phase. The liquid is scarcely glimpsed, however, before it quickly solidifies, partly into an amorphous carbon structure. (M.B. Agranat et al., Journal of Experimental and Theoretical Physics (JETP) Letters, a Russian journal translated into English by AIP.)

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Liquid wood? by Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu May 20, 2004 at 03:42:47 AM EST
Here ya go


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