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By sven (Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 12:29:35 AM EST) (all tags)
MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST FOR PERTH FOR:
Tomorrow : Fine. Min: 15 Max: 30
Thursday : Fine. Min: 16 Max: 29
Friday : Fine. Min: 17 Max: 32
Saturday : Fine. Min: 19 Max: 38

TREND FOR SUNDAY, MONDAY and TUESDAY:
Fine, very hot. Max high 30s to near 40.

Inside: Britain's train system, a happy banking story, credit cards, and gcc



Britain's train "system"

It's interesting to say the least. Things that I think are unusual about the "system":

  • 14 day advance purchase tickets are not necessarily available 14 days in advance. Sometimes only 3 day advance tickets are available.
  • It is not unusual to have over 10 different fares available for a single one-way journey.
  • Sometimes a return journey costs less than a one-way journey.
  • Sometimes it costs less to buy two tickets than one (ie split the journey in two).
  • Different ticket-sellers have different definitions of 14 days. thetrainline.co.uk appears to be the only one where 14 days means 14 * 24 hours. The others look only at the current date.
  • Despite allowing foreigners to purchase tickets for collection at the station, the website is designed only to accept UK addresses. However, it is possible to trick it.
  • The availability of cheap tickets does not seem to correspond to actual seats on the train. For example, cheap tickets may be available for Coventry to York via Birmingham, but not from Birmingham to York, even though this journey utilises the same train.
After some amounts of pain, I feel reasonably happy that I have defeated the evil system. Key results:
  • Refused to pay £46.50 for a train from Oxford to York. It would have been possible (but inconvenient) to go for £24. Instead paid £9 to get the bus.
  • Booked a York to Edinburgh 14 day advance ticket for £11, exactly 14 days in advance.
  • Saved £4 on a Bath to London journey by buying a return ticket, even though I have no intention of using the return portion.
Huzzah!

Another happy banking story

Citibank continue to impress me. Their card security people called me up yesterday to ensure that my train ticket purchases were legitimate, since they are apparently a popular way to test stolen cards, and are an unusual purchase for someone who doesn't live in Britain. Nobody at work knew of any other bank that does the same.

I've never known a bank to piss me off as little as Citibank do. I'm even recommending them to friends (and the 5,000 point referral bonus doesn't go astray either).

Credit cards

Amex want me to have a gold card with no annual fee. I'm considering accepting their kind offer. One day in the not-too-distant future I expect it won't be easy to find a Visa or Mastercard that gives one frequent flyer point per dollar. If that happens, having an Amex might come in handy.

gcc

Spent most of the day trying to get our software to compile with gcc 3.3.2 (we're upgrading from 3.0.1). There were quite a lot of minor problems that we got away with in the old version, but which the new version is more strict about. One thing that surprised me was discovering two declarations of the same constant #defined to different values. I have no idea why the old compiler let us get away with that.

I ran into a bit of a problem late in the afternoon. Whenever I #include signal.h, and I have the -ansi flag enabled, I get errors about the type uint64_t being used as a type, but not defined as a type. We don't really want to remove the -ansi option. I tried typedeffing uint64_t to unsigned long long, but the compiler didn't like that because it thought uint64_t was already a type. Odd. At that point I decided to give up until tomorrow and go to my French lesson.

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Banking by creo (6.00 / 1) #1 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 12:43:10 AM EST
Funny how experiences go - my outlaws got screwed around most bogusly by Citibank. However, they had a business account, so it may have been for different reasons. For my Aussie banking I use Bendigo - where you actually talk to the guy in the branch who makes the decisions. this can be handy when cashing foreign cheques.

But like most things, go with what works!

Barclays have a policy similar to the Citibank people, except with one vital difference. Rather than ringing you up and confirming with you, they just put a hold on the card.

This can be bad, very bad. It does not seem to happen to us too much now - probably because the last time I expressed my displeasure in a none too subtle way.

I could go on with this story, but then you would have to get some cheese.

Cheers
Creo.

"I shall do what I believe to be right and honourable" - Guderian


Banks by sven (3.00 / 0) #3 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 01:06:12 AM EST
I'm quite fickle with my banking, so if a bank pisses me off, I'll quite happily accept a little inconvenience to change to another bank. In the past three years I've had credit cards with three different banks, and I'm just moving my savings account from National to ANZ. I think if more people were as fickle as I am, the banking system would be in far better shape.

I like the concept of Bendigo Bank (ie the whole community bank thing) but it's not much use to me due to their limited ATM network and credit cards without frequent flyer points. I like points.

I don't think much of Barclays security policy. I imagine it's most likely to happen at the most inconvenient times, like when you're overseas on holiday. When did it happen to you?

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harshbutfair // you know it makes sense
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Banks by creo (6.00 / 1) #5 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 01:37:16 AM EST
One time was when we were booking our tickets when flying out the next day - fortunately the agent does all of our bookings and let us fly without paying (how's that for service :-).

My wife got stuck in Aus without access to our big bucks when she was trying to buy something - I had to sort that out.

The worst was when we had 4 bags of shopping in Finland and the cards were just stopped dead. I had to run (well jog) home and pick up our spares (we never carry all our cards at once, just in case) and run back. Embarrasing more than anything, again we were OK because I think they know us now.

There have been others, but they were the worst. The main problem for us is our backups are only visa badged debit cards, and the account they are linked to does not have a lot of cash (for obvious reasons). Next time we are home we might suss out some point scheme cards, one of the plusses about Citibank that i have heard is that their scheme is good.

The main issue for us is the income thing, and the fact I am a taxation non resident. I might hit up our bendigo man for a reference, otherwise I think we are SOL.

CHeers
Creo.

"I shall do what I believe to be right and honourable" - Guderian
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If you think by jump the ladder (5.33 / 3) #2 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 12:51:59 AM EST
The ticketing system is screwed wait until you have pleasure of using the UKian trains...



UK TRAIN SYSTEM WARNING by fritz the cat (5.66 / 3) #4 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 01:12:29 AM EST
Whatever it says on your ticket has no bearing whatsoever on what time the trains will actually depart, nor on how long the journey will take, nor on whether the trains will actually arrive at their destination (rather than stopping somewhere on the way without explanation).
If you are travelling by night make sure you have a cash card with you, and a couple of taxi/cab numbers just in case.

I have been to Viet Nam. They have a better train system than the UK.

[Ed.: currently a dormant account - posting on behalf of extremely tedious HuSer]


Oh. by ambrosen (5.00 / 1) #8 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 04:47:43 AM EST
Actually, you don't need the taxi cab numbers, as if you have a ticket and miss the last connection to your destination, then the train company will get you a taxi home (or maybe arrange alternative arrangements).

The timetables can and do slip (about 15-20% of the time on Intercity routes), but rarely by more than half an hour. It would also be extremely unusual that any journey would take longer than a journey of the same distance in Vietnam, and unless on a commuter train in the South East, the train will be comfortably equipped, if not quite as clean and tidy as it should be, and probably fairly fully occupied, with standing room only if it's leaving a main station at 5pm on a Friday.

But generally, the UK railway system is much better than the average UKian admits.

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Do you live in the same UK as me? by fritz the cat (5.00 / 1) #9 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 04:53:50 AM EST
The only trains that seem to work fine in the UK, in my experience, are on the London to Cambridge area commute. I do not have the time to google for links to prove my points though.

and unless on a commuter train in the South East the train will be comfortably equipped...
The South East is where most Britons live.

[Ed.: currently a dormant account - posting on behalf of extremely tedious HuSer]
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Yes, I do. by ambrosen (5.00 / 1) #10 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 05:02:11 AM EST
A third of Britons live in the South East. Not most. The South East commuter lines are not going to be of interest to a tourist.

I live in the West Midlands. The local train I took this morning was 10 minutes late, which I guess could be considered a major inconvenience. In my case it was a minor one. Most of the trains I take arrive on time or roughly on time. I rarely have problems or stressful journeys, in fact, in the last year travelling extensively within the UK & the West Midlands the only problematic journey was going from Walsall to Pembroke, which is simply too slow a journey at 7 hours each way: i.e. the same as going to Aberdeen. Otherwise I've been fine.

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One word for you: snow [nt] by fritz the cat (3.00 / 0) #11 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 06:01:44 AM EST


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Hey, now that's not fair! by gazbo (5.00 / 1) #6 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 02:04:26 AM EST
I can explain all of those rationally.  Well, some of them.  OK, a couple.

Alright, so I can only explain the first one as being logical, but it's the principle that matters.


"Engarde!" cried the larvae, huskily. - Scrymarch



Heheheh, good luck by Rogerborg (6.00 / 2) #7 Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 02:04:56 AM EST
The UKian train system is a lottery combined with the exciting atmosphere - and odour - of a sheep truck bound for the slaughterhouse.

Brother-In-Law-borg commutes every day.  The stations at both ends are unmanned, meaning that he has to pay on the train (in cash, just like Great3Grandad-borg had to do).  Despite him having the money to hand on every journey, he only gets ticketed half the time.  It should be fairly clear from that that UKian train companies don't really want money from passengers.  The reason is that they don't need it.  They basically pick the amount of profit that they'd like to make, and hit up the government for the difference.  It's a superbly efficient system, with only a few million rail passengers losing out.  Fortunately, we have a plan for dealing with it: we're going to keep on using The Britain's Stoicism to put up with it until, well, until someone jolly well does something.

Note to liberals: this does not count as a liberal whinge, because I'm not complaining.  Catch me on a train?  Not bloody likely.  They're for chimney sweeps and guttersnipes.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.


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