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By blixco (Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:00:18 AM EST) (all tags)
Exceed your biology, dangerously.


The limitations are well known and deplorable.  There's real horsepower up there, in the grey matter between your ears.  Some real possibility.  At some point in the near past, several friends and I decided to mutate! damnit, with the help of certain brain powered pharmaceuticals.  Our goal: anything that would change our minds.

The first step was research.  At the time the internet was limited in both search capability and real information.  There were hours spent staring at a lynx session, and I'll spare you the details but the results were: a small list of drug names and a large list of side-effects.  Living, as we did, only fifty miles away from Mexico, we had an opportunity to pick up pharmaceuticals from any farmacia in Juarez, the large city just across the border from El Paso.  Two of us would do the buying, since we had very little fear of either the city or the law.  The law is pretty murky on these things, but our understanding was: we could buy quite a bit of what we needed (more than we had money for, to be sure), and as long as we didn't sell it once we got across the border, all was well.  We had read stories about people getting pulled aside by the Customs agents, getting grilled as to the legality of the substances themselves, and getting detained for hours while the DEA pored over their book of scheduled substances, looking for anything that could implicate the individual.  The border crossing in El Paso is notorious for being a harsh, unfriendly, all-business border crossing.  The Customs, DEA, and Border Patrol personnel were infamous for their severity and ruthlessness.  We had only one thing going for us: the substances we were purchasing were legal to own, but illegal to distribute.

Specifically, my friend Gabe and I would be buying a large quantity of "smart drugs."  The idea was to change our heads, experiment with the neurons, extend our thinking.  We didn't want to be "smarter," and the goal was never intelligence.  The goal was: speed of change.  Our heads, our human biology, was too slow to change and adapt.  We intended to force the biology into a new pathway.  To change our minds.  In our list, we had settled on three different drugs: deprenyl, piracetam, and hydergine.  Of the three, I was most interested in Hydergine.

Hydergine is derived from ergot.  Those of you who know your street drugs will recognize Sandoz Labs, the "inventor" of Hydergine, as well as the ergot derivitive they are most famous for (Hint: it rhymes with LSD).  Hydergine was developed in the late 1940's as a treatment for hypertension.  In clinical trials, it was found to be effective (though only marginally) at treating certain types of dementia, including Alzheimers.  It has been approved by the FDA for use as a treatment for "senility" and for cerebrovascular insufficiency.  There are claims that it helps guard against free radical damage, boosts oxygenation in blood cells in the brain, and speeds up cell metabolism in the brain.  It has been fairly well studied, with over 3000 clinical studies performed on it.

Hydergine "stacks" well with piracetam, meaning that the two complement each other.  Our first trip to Juarez was focused on procuring only piracetam (sold under the name Nootropil) and hydergine, with any left over funds going toward deprenyl purchase.  We chose a Saturday, mid morning, and walked across the border from downtown El Paso, and one of the busiest foot bridges in the world.

The goal was to get to at least four farmacias and find the lowest prices on the drugs we wanted.  This is a fairly popular shopping destination for many gringos in Juarez, and the farmacias are geared toward freindly, prompt attention.  A tip: avoid the state run farmacias, the ones that look like a sterile Walgreens.  They are usually further off the "strip" than most, and have the least amount of advertising.  They are also sticklers for things like prescriptions.  Most farmacias in Mexico will sell prescription-only drugs to you without a prescription, provided they aren't opiate derived painkillers, or any scheduled narcotic.  The most popular purchases in farmacias in Juarez are anti-biotics and viagra, and they are advertised heavily.  Competition between farmacias is fierce, and they will consequently undercut each other if you are willing to do the legwork.

Our first stop ended up being the lowest price we would see, so we purchased eight boxes of piracetam (30 pills per box) and four boxes of hydergine (two to four times more expensive than piracetam, each box is 20 pills).  The net cost was in the neighborhood of $120.00, though I don't remember the specific amounts (more on this below).

Gabe and I had been followed by at least four different people during our trip.  We didn't know the intent of the people following us, only that they were very interested in our movements.  At this point, we determined that we needed to get back across the border.  We distributed the boxes evenly between us, doing some educated guessing as to what could be considered personal use.  We had a story for the purchase if needed: that it was for our grandparents, as a treatment for alzheimers, and was cheaper in Mexico than via prescription in the US.  Walking across the border was fairly easy in the pre-September 11th 2001 days.  We were stopped, our bags checked, and the Customs agent asked us if the drugs we had were steroids.  We both laughed, incredulous.  The agent, however, was serious, and we filled him in on what the drugs were used for.  In the background, a DEA agent thumbed through a massive book, looking for the drug names.  He didn't find them in any of his scheduled substance listings, and we were free to go.

The four men following us stopped on the Mexico side, just inside the customs barrier.  I still have no idea what they wanted, but it is important to know that travel in Juarez can be fairly dangerous without the proper mindset and focus.

Before getting to Las Cruces, we stopped at a Gas and Sip, and bought some sodas.  The idea was to take an "attack dose" of both substances.  Impatient, curious, and excited by the prospect, we each took four piracetam (2400mg) and two hydergine (3mg), then settled back for the drive home.  By this time, the sun was starting to set, traffic was light, and the excitement of the day had worn off a bit.

Then, the drugs kicked in.

I don't know how to adequately describe the effects of that large of a dose of those drugs.  The immediate effect was a kind of softening of the light, like a gaussian blur had been placed on anything not in direct focus.  The neurological effect was astounding; Gabe and I both had an intense level of concentration, but it wasn't on anything of our choosing.  We'd lock into a specific idea or sound or sight, and not be able to shake it.  The underlying emotional effect was a deep, deep nostalgia.  Everything was shrouded in this heavy nostalgic feeling, and the sunset (a typical, glorious New Mexico sunset) grabbed every second of our attention, to the point that Gabe, driving, slowed and pulled over to clear his head.  We had been travelling a stretch of highspeed interstate at roughly 45 miles an hour, emotionally and logically involved with the world around us, our attention deeply focused on the beauty of the sky.

It felt, for all intents, like a very minor dose of acid.

I don't remember most of that trip except for the lovely fog of nostalgia and the amazing sunset.  I don't remember that evening, but Gabe and I did get coffee at a coffeeshop, and we spent a good deal of time staring off into space, then looking at each other and laughing at the vapid expresssions we carried.

Later, we scheduled our doses in a more realistic fashion.  The piracetam gave me a distinct headache and a copper taste in the back of my throat.  Hydergine made me so nostalgic, so whistful, I could not take it in the morning before work, and would stack my doses in later in the evening.

Most of all, I noticed no cognitive enhancement.  I can't remember any more detail from that period of time than from any other, and at the time my recall was hampered by the annoying "latch onto any thought but the one you want" side effect.  I tried focusing on specific tasks, and would inevitably have my mind wander....but this wasn't the normal "my mind is wandering" thing.  This was a "my mind is obsessed with any BRIGHT SHINY OBJECT" thing.  We played with doses, and I found that the most effective dose for me was two piracetam twice a day, and one hydergine in the evening.  At that dose, after four weeks, I felt alert and capable; my mind worked quickly, like a caffeine high only focused and efficient.  After eight weeks, the desired state was less attainable, and the side effects egregious enough that I decided to taper off.

Now, eight years later, I'm still curious enough to try it again, still desire that hydergine nostalgic hit at times.  The effects of the experiment, long term, are unknown.  We were faithful for about a year, and moved onto other mixtures later.  There haven't been any near-term side effects, and the immediate effects (headaches, strange body aches, heavy nostalgia) were quickly gone once the doses were tapered off.

Would I reccommend this to anyone?  Yes, though if you're on any medications currently, you may wish to avoid these at all cost..  I feel it is important to attempt to exceed your biology, and chemistry is an easy (and potentially fatal) way to do it.  If you can get your hands on some Hydergine (nor marketed as "Hydergina" by Novartis) and piracetam (or even some pramiracetam, a more efficient, potent version), and you don't mind mucking with the wiring in your head, give it a shot.  

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I was always curious about smart drugs by georgeha (6.00 / 1) #1 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:10:06 AM EST
but was never able to try them, thanks (aside from Dr. Hoffman's problem child, but that doesn't totally count).




Official HuSi disclaimer by hulver (6.00 / 1) #2 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:14:33 AM EST
blixco is a HuSi editor, so HuSi obviously heartily endorses anything he advises you to do. You're all adults aren't you? Make your own minds up.

Like Open source software, your brain software is your own to play with.

And if you break it, you get to keep the pieces :)
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*snort* by MisterQueue (6.00 / 2) #6 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:36:51 AM EST
blixco told me to!! Now I can only grunt once for yes and twice for bwwwuuuuh...


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My standard disclaimer: by blixco (3.00 / 0) #10 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 06:14:05 AM EST
If you do what I do, you are as deserving of the consequences as I.
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Interesting by theboz (6.00 / 1) #3 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:14:54 AM EST
I don't know that I would do this, but it is definitely interesting. If you do come up with the "magic solution" to this, let me know.

I've been able to control some functions of my body within reason, as well as focus and get control of some other things, but my main problem is that I think about too many things at once (which may not necessarily be bad.) I can slow my heart and breathing down somewhat easily, I can make myself hotter or cooler in temperature which is sort of tied to the heart and breathing thing. None of that is really enough though, as I'd like to be able to think faster than I can now, and store more data in my brain.
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Witch! Witch! by Rogerborg (3.00 / 0) #4 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:16:54 AM EST
etc.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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Yeah right by theboz (3.00 / 0) #5 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:28:32 AM EST
I don't claim to move flames around or make energy go outside of my body, just that I use some things that anyone could do if they thought about it. I would say that my bad temper helped me out quite a bit though. I learned that when I get mad, I get hotter and my heart beats faster. I learned that when I calm down, my heart slows down and I get cooler. If you learn to emulate what happens when you get mad or calm without experiencing the emotion, you get control over the bodily functions. It's just like learning to piss in the toilet rather than on yourself.
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piss in the what, now? by tps12 (3.00 / 0) #11 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 06:14:07 AM EST
Hm, time to change my pants again.

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Man Oh Man by MisterQueue (6.00 / 2) #7 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:46:28 AM EST
this would definitely not be a good idea for my headspace as it stands. I wonder if it's possible to have a naturally occuring abundance of chemicals in this manner? I suppose there's no reason one couldn't.

The only thing I found that focuses my attentions like a laser really is some small activity. If I can smoke while doing something or flip a coin or whatnot, anything to occupy that lower functionality of the brain, then I can sort of organize the upper portions into a broad laser. Never perfect pinpoints, but a well honed tool just the same.

But there's advantages too... like talking able to be double time without mucking communication on the brinkside growlip force. But that's really just more fun than useful.


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Very interesting... by Metatone (6.00 / 1) #8 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 05:10:13 AM EST
On a slightly different subject... Every tried one of the muscle relaxers that back physios have? A horu of one of them near the bottom of your spine is remarkably like a chemical effect...



Stuff and nonsense. by coillte (4.00 / 2) #9 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 05:49:47 AM EST
This type of material has no place on the net. Where the hell are the editors on this site? Godammit. The whole dream is going to heck in a handcart right here, I tell ya. Right here and now.

By Christ. Degenerates like you have no place in this modern new America of ours. You got yourself a little too much freedom for yourself there. I demand justice.

Why, young children could be reading this material right now, and smartening themselves right up as we speak.

Meh. I can't seem to work up a decent head of steam on this lately. I must read less Zen, and watch more news.
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no place in this modern new America by wiredog (3.00 / 0) #15 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 07:39:49 AM EST
The site's hosted in UKia.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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And coillte is from Ire-land. by blixco (6.00 / 1) #16 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 08:16:09 AM EST
However, the Internet is essentially America's Marketing Space.
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If I made an enema out of this stuff by webwench (5.80 / 5) #12 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 07:18:59 AM EST
would it make me more of a smartass?

Getting more attention than you since 1998 .


Hrm. by blixco (5.75 / 4) #13 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 07:32:43 AM EST
This merits investigation.  Must plod off to find a victim, a firehose, and forty pounds of crisco.
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Let me think a while... by webwench (6.00 / 3) #17 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 08:27:08 AM EST
I'm sure I can find a real asshole to recommend.

Getting more attention than you since 1998 .
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As if that's possible... by atreides (6.00 / 1) #14 Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 07:36:18 AM EST
:P

"...heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will, to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

Atreides: The psychedelic visionary doesn't crave stardom.
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