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I've been trying to want a reader by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #1 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 04:08:51 AM EST
For a while I had one and it was great, but only for reading novels or other things meant to be consumed end-to-end. But 90%+ of my reading is for edification (and reference) purposes, and the process there is so back-and-forth that I print papers or data sheets or whatever and I bind them with paperclips so I can pull the pages out and have the information available side-by-side when needed.

Kindle also cleverly avoids giving you wifi. I assume this is so you'll buy books instead of just loading whatever you want off your NAS or whatever. I would seriously consider buying one for reading papers (where back-tracking isn't usually more than a page or so) if only it had wifi. Prices: aren't Amazon's a bit high? They're rarely substantially lower, and sometimes they're higher than the printed books (usually on technical material—baffling, per above.) All I've got is: something something Ayn Rand.

The tragedy is I'd read more novels if I had a reader. I can barely justify buying books anymore, due to space, so I try to keep it restricted to stuff that has high utility per kilogram. I've allowed myself a few novels though.

P.S. big ups for clickhole.

Chill out, snowflake.

NAS or whatever by clover kicker (4.00 / 2) #3 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 07:14:39 AM EST
> I assume this is so you'll buy books instead of just loading whatever you want off your NAS or whatever.

Highly recommended ---> https://calibre-ebook.com/

Will convert between e-book formats and PDF, plug the Kindle into the USB and upload by the dozen!

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Thanks! by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 01:01:26 AM EST
Looks useful.
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Even the least expensive kindle has wi-fi by lm (4.00 / 1) #4 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 08:03:21 AM EST
Go up to the Paperwhite and it has wi-fi + free 3g.

They have long have a service offering a special email account for every registered kindle where you can email a book in a non kindle format and they convert it and you download it onto your kindle over wi-fi or 3g.


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The ones I looked at by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #7 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 04:24:20 PM EST
had comments bemoaning the absence of wifi. idk, might look again.

Chill out, snowflake.

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The first generation kindles by TheophileEscargot (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 01:01:07 AM EST
Let you surf the Web, or at least the part of it that would render. Later generations don't. They all let you download/buy books over wifi, and some models let you download/buy over 3G. They're probably bemoaning that they can't surf the web over Wifi anymore.
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Ah by dark nowhere (4.00 / 2) #12 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 01:13:54 AM EST
that probably prevents me from doing what I want then. I want to be able to find a pdf/similar on the web somewhere and have it on the reader almost immediately (ideally via qr scanner or browser plugin.) I'd settle for some interruption, but when it comes to messing with cables I feel like we're not farther ahead than when I had a Jetbook.

Chill out, snowflake.

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I believe you can do that ... by lm (4.00 / 2) #15 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 10:08:30 AM EST
... just not from the kindle. Email the pdf from any device to the converter address you get when you register your kindle and your kindle should pull it down almost immediately.

See: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201974220


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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That by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #17 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 12:54:58 PM EST
is more like it. Not a fan of the round-trip via Amazon, but it's understandable.

Chill out, snowflake.

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I was a bit wrong by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #25 Sun Sep 10, 2017 at 03:24:35 AM EST
Turns out there's an "Experimental Browser" buried in the options on the home screen. It lets you browse bits of the Web, but not everything.
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Oddly enough by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #16 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 12:48:54 PM EST
Because of this Humble Bundle I had a sudden need to transfer a bunch of ebooks.

This is for a Kindle Fire, but I am sure PaperWhite's work in a similar fashion.  "Email to this address" works fine, though emailing 30mb+ files is annoying.

Transferring .mobi files like I do videos also works just fine.  I use the "ES File System" app to view/launch the files.  (Maybe there's a better way?)   I use the iOS "Android File Transfer" app to send the files over USB.  (From the Mac App store, no clue about Windows.)

(Note that when I first got the thing, I immediately put the Google Android Store on it.  I've had the device a year and had no issues.

I don't have a PaperWhite, so don't know if some of those steps won't work there.
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That's an impessive bundle by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #18 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 01:53:28 PM EST
I can't do tablets. Not sure why, but I've read more books on my DS Lite than on any tablet/phone. I'd go in for an MS Courier if Gates hadn't killed it off for not doing Outlook. The ASUS Eee Note was almost great, but it was bulky, slow, and buggy.

I bring it up because I am kind of frustrated that you can get a decent reader, but past that it goes to hell. The Courier and Eee Note were meant to do all the book-like functions (including notebook, sketchbook, and even scrap-book) and the hardware was designed to support those use-cases. I'd rather not kill trees or waste space, so a good version of one of those devices would set me up.

A tablet is too general in the sense that you can do anything badly (i.e. typing, drawing, etc.) so the value-add goes very negative when you have a few specific needs. Idk what the screen is like, but I couldn't read on the tablets/phones I've had.

Anyway, it seems like the email-to-device stuff works on the PaperWhite also, making it... well, it's under consideration once again.

Chill out, snowflake.

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Yeah, I understand by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #19 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 02:45:07 PM EST
These are literally the first technical books I've put on the device.

My corporate masters have a device that looks incredible.  e-Ink at some ungodly resolution at 8.5"/11" with primo notetaking/sketch capabilities.  It's in the neighborhood of $10k and meant only for corporate customers.

I am an ereader early adopter.  First novel I read on a device was on the original palm pilot

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$10k sounds like fashion by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #20 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 04:12:40 PM EST
That said, if they put $10k of actual utility I wanted in one and made it fit in a large pocket, I would honestly buy one this week, assuming it checked out. But I don't think I could come up with enough features I'd want in a single device. Like does the display run at 240hz so execs can watch cat videos?

Jokes aside, I can see how it could work at that level. You give them solid tools, the workflow improves. It costs $10k because you'll pay it and be better for having done so (and someone who won't do better with it will buy it anyway because "that's how they do it at $Megacorp.") Hook that stuff up to the right kind of groupware ($10k a seat better buy you a nice SLA on feature requests) and you'll have a high-level work organization win.

Chill out, snowflake.

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Get the caliber ebook manager software. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #21 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 06:01:22 PM EST
Yeah, you need a USB cable, but it does lots of conversions and all the syncing.

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I have a Fire by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #6 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 11:51:50 AM EST
I got one of these when it was on sale.  I find it just about perfect for my purposes.  It doesn't have the battery life that a PaperWhite would, but I still get roughly a week's worth of train reading on it, so that's good enough.

When I bought it, I had a bunch of books from the Google Play store.  Though obviously this tablet is heavily Amazon driven, getting the Play store and my books on it was simple.

I've never put books directly on, but I'm sure it's easy, because this device's secondary use is as a video player when I travel.  I typically rip a bunch of CDs, copy them to the tablet, then watch them with VNC.  (This is the chief reason I got it instead of the PaperWhite.)

I only read narrative stuff on it though, not software engineering books.  But I've gone over to the eReader so hard that I know get somewhat annoyed when I have to read a physical book.

To me, the best (or maybe worst) feature is the ease of transactions.  Being able to see a friend on social media rave about something and having it available to read in under a minute is nice...
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I also got a Fire, since I was traveling a lot by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #22 Tue Sep 05, 2017 at 03:12:28 PM EST
and it made carrying books a lot easier than trying to stuff dead tree books in an overflowing backpack.

I started with an HD 6, and moved up to an HD 8, fifth generation.

It's nice to be able to check work email in three minutes without having to boot up a laptop, then check social media, then go back to a book.


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Kindle by clover kicker (4.00 / 1) #2 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 07:11:57 AM EST
"It is nicer to have 1 book with you than a Kindle. It is nice to have a Kindle with you than 10 books" - some dude on the internet

The Paperwhite has a really nice screen too.

> I was very reluctant to get into ebooks at first as I fear the monopoly power of Amazon.

I've had decent luck with the Pirate Bay for ebooks.

At some point when your kid is older you're going to be frequently stuck at i.e. swimming lessons and you're going to put a lot of miles on that Kindle.


Two extremely useful links for book readers. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #5 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 11:15:16 AM EST
Calibre for managing books acquired outside the Amazon walled garden, and Gutenberg for acquiring free books. Several publishers will sell drm free ebooks on their websites.

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Cheers by TheophileEscargot (2.00 / 0) #11 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 01:02:05 AM EST
I'm going to try getting some Gutenberg stuff on there sometime.
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There's also standard ebooks by darkbrown (4.00 / 1) #13 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 08:12:49 AM EST
https://standardebooks.org they're reformatting some of the gutenberg books, making them more readable

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I bought a Kindle a few years ago by Herring (4.00 / 1) #8 Sun Sep 03, 2017 at 05:23:31 PM EST
because I just don't have physical space for more books.

I'm put a few non-Amazon things on there which are public domain. It works well and only having to charge it occasionally is nice.

People still give me paper books and I tend to put off reading them because of the hassle. I need to fix this.

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Kindle by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #14 Mon Sep 04, 2017 at 09:19:34 AM EST
Not wrong to be leery of Amazon's market power but it's a very good device. I was getting headaches from reading phone / tablet too much, they went away. Not a gizmo guy, I held off a long time.

Outside of huge metros like London or countries with an Amazon equivalent ebooks are a godsend for anything slightly obscure too.

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There are still non-Amazon ebook readers by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #23 Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 10:26:51 AM EST
Although they are sadly far between. I really liked my Kobo, and the Sony that preceded it. Actually, I still love the Sony but it doesn't have a backlight which makes reading in bed more awkward.

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hmm by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #24 Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 12:51:04 PM EST
Once the battery on my color nook died, I haven't bothered to replace it thanks to a superior android tablet. I doubt that would be the case if it had e-ink or otherwise long battery life.

Newegg doesn't seem to stock any non-kindle e-readers (oddly enough, Amazon stocks KOBO, but I simply searched for KOBO, there weren't good options for "tablet with e-ink". Presumably the rest of the market has conceded that to Kindle.

Wumpus

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Meh. No point in a color ebook reader. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #26 Mon Sep 11, 2017 at 12:43:41 PM EST
But yeah, for all the screams a few years ago that Apple was engaged in monopoly ebook pricing, there's really only one vendor for ebook readers today.

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