Referendum outcome?

Better than the alternative   0 votes - 0 %
About the same   3 votes - 60 %
Worse   2 votes - 40 %
5 Total Votes
I'm not a sure Remain win by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #1 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 04:16:42 AM EST
Would have been better, economically yes but politically much worse in a way.

I honestly believe that we are better inside the EU having influence than semi-outside in a Norway type deal but I think Norway is the only politically feasible way forward.

Norway arrangement by anonimouse (4.00 / 2) #3 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 05:10:04 AM EST
Doesn't solve the matter of controlling immigration, which was a core issue in the referendum  

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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Pay more money by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #5 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 05:56:32 AM EST
And a fudge around having to have a job contract to move here

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From what the Leave politicians are saying... by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #7 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 06:24:26 AM EST
Voting "Leave" won't reduce immigration, either. Also doesn't free up more money for the NHS. In fact, other than trashing the Pound I'm not sure what it's done.

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Just heard the French Deal by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #9 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 07:49:42 AM EST
EEA Norway Style Deal, more money, cap on migration levels, single market  but no passporting for financial services. Cruel choice for the Tories : working class versus the City

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I get the impression by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #10 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 07:55:52 AM EST
.. we ought to form a competing Free Trade and Services area. 

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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We've tried that by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #11 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 07:57:37 AM EST
We're not popular enough with other countries

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They don't call us by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #12 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 07:59:02 AM EST
Perfidious albion for nothing

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I suspect by anonimouse (4.00 / 1) #13 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 08:00:07 AM EST
We won't trigger a Brexit until a road map for financial services is agreed. 

Girls come and go but a mortgage is for 25 years -- JtL
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That's why never by jump the ladder (4.00 / 1) #14 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 08:07:04 AM EST
WTO rules only cover goods not services for the most part. And where is our strength, services...

We're fucked

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Interesting Times by priestess (4.00 / 1) #2 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 04:58:12 AM EST
The Labour Party are absolutely hilarious, clearly there's really at least two parties there and looks like the PLP are determined for force that split.

Scotland and Ireland are either off out of the UK or else this exit has to be voted by them. Either of those outcomes will enflame the hard right, and they're already shooting MPs dead in the streets.


I predict things continuing to kick off.

Surprised the Libs aren't making more headway from this mess really. They must really be entirely spent.

Chat to the virtual me...

Vetoed, not voted. by priestess (4.00 / 1) #4 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 05:13:08 AM EST
American schooling in the 60s by ana (4.00 / 1) #6 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 06:21:32 AM EST
I was in first grade in 1960/61 (turning six in the summer of '60). I do remember some duck and cover drills; I imagine we had two or three of them all year. I don't remember the Burt the Turtle duck and cover movie, but we may have been shown it in school. There was one drill where they sent everybody home from school early, which seems... kind of odd, having clueless terrified six-year-olds loose on the streets during a civil emergency. My parents built a new house in 1963, with a roughed-in fallout shelter in the basement (a room with 8" thick concrete walls and ceiling with vents through the roof). They used it to store canned goods and by then the cold war had thawed enough that it didn't seem necessary to fit it with a door that would seal, etc.

But in between all that we had time to learn to read and do arithmetic and get into the usual troubles of little kids.

Or get rabies. Also don't do that. --scrymarch

Duck and cover by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #17 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 03:55:53 PM EST
As a child in California, we certainly had "hide under the desk" drills, but they were in response to a potential attack by the San Andreas Fault, not the Soviets.
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I don't think article 50 to leave EU by jump the ladder (4.00 / 3) #8 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 06:25:13 AM EST
Is ever going to be triggered. Signs of the issue being kicked to the long grass, setting up committees to examine the issues,the referendum was merely advisory etc.

Loury and affirmative action by Scrymarch (4.00 / 2) #15 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 09:54:00 AM EST
There was a great blog post last year about G Loury's work on discrimation and affirmative action, especially the non-obvious scenarios where non-discrimatory policies exacerbate inequality. Not sure if I mentioned it here or not.

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Thanks for the link to the Oneida story. by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #16 Wed Jun 29, 2016 at 02:48:17 PM EST
Fascinating backstory that I had no idea existed.

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Bridge of Spies by dark nowhere (4.00 / 1) #18 Sat Oct 28, 2017 at 01:12:08 AM EST
Just watched it. In context I think it was excellent.

Mainly, this is a Spielberg film, and he tends to include some of the usual formulae. But he does it masterfully, and naturally like performing music in a genre he helped define.

I've been thinking about him off and on lately. He's entertained me since I was young, and he still manages to impress me today.

It's unusual to post in an old diary like this, but I think digging up the right one and posting to it signals something.

See you, space cowboy.