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The rules vs discretion post... by Metatone (4.00 / 1) #1 Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 10:03:55 AM EST
seems oddly empty. It's as if he doesn't want to acknowledge that we've had 20-30 years of rule based monetary policy...

Mary Magdalene: by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #2 Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 10:22:47 AM EST
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Lincoln by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #3 Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 10:42:55 AM EST
I really liked it, especially the unusual focus on him as a very practical deal making politician. Of course I am as you describe a political tragic; but my wife liked it too and she is neither political junkie nor history buff, and neither of us got the St Abraham of the American Civic Religion stuff in school.

I think Speilberg has always been prone to the extra dose of Hollywood sentimentality you describe, but the movie survived it anyway. It would have been braver to leave the assassination out entirely, but the way it was shown was not wrong; truer to the emotional shock of the thing.

Really liked the Yglesias point about the implied political program to bring the middle class back.

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Yeah by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 03:28:13 AM EST
I really wished they had ended the movie with that scene of Abe and Martha in their buggy talking about their holiday plans after all this was over. Would have been much more poignant. Wouldn't be surprised if that was how an earlier script ended, until it was decided that was insufficiently tearjerking, and that it wouldn't work for those viewers who don't know what happened to Lincoln...

It's a bit tricky to do a realistic historical Lincoln, because on the other side to the Saint Abraham crowd you have the revisionists who think the Civil War was nothing to do with slavery, just Big Government Yankee Oppression. But Lincoln did seem to get power on a dodgy, paranoid platform about how the slave states were going to extend slavery northward, be interesting to get a more balanced view of him.
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As it happens by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #6 Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 10:12:31 AM EST
Minor spoiler, that is more or less how Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter ends. They leave the assassination out.

I wonder if this even influenced the choice, through weird Hollywood logic.

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As it happens by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #7 Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 10:12:32 AM EST
Minor spoiler, that is more or less how Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter ends. They leave the assassination out.

I wonder if this even influenced the choice, through weird Hollywood logic.

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a 90 minute movie inside a two and a half hour one by wiredog (4.00 / 2) #4 Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 10:49:14 AM EST
I have that feeling about a lot of doorstopper novels.

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