Mental illness can be the extreme of a trait-spectrum with mental health

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naked rambler by aphrael (4.00 / 1) #1 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 12:40:46 PM EST
so, (a) dude really should just compromise and go home and stay the f- out of scotland. at this point, he's choosing to say that whatever point he is making is more important than anything else, including (say) being with his mum before she dies.

(b) why the f- is being naked in public illegal, anyhow?
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Contradiction by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #3 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:37:33 PM EST
The irony is that from what I understand, he wasn't arrested for public nudity.
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the linked article by aphrael (4.00 / 1) #4 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:42:30 PM EST
says he was arrested for 'breach of the peace' on the grounds that his nudity was a breach of the peace.
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That's what I mean by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 04:41:38 PM EST
Public nudity isn't itself against the law there apparently.
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that's debatable at best, right? by aphrael (4.00 / 1) #6 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 06:19:36 PM EST
i mean, ok, it's not explicitly against the law, but if it's being considered a breach of the peace, than it's effectively against the law.
If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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not per se by lm (4.00 / 1) #7 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 09:24:05 PM EST
Two potentially different situations at play.

Situation 1. Someone is arrested for disturbing the peace because this person walked naked through a community in which someone strolling around naked does disturb the peace.

Situation 2. Someone is arrested for disturbing the peace because this person walked around naked and the cops don't like people walking around naked but couldn't think of any better charges.

Situation 2 is a bit like the change of `insulting Turkishness' in Turkey applying to people who blaspheme Mohammed.

Situation 1 can, on some occasions, make sense.


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from the article by bobdole (4.00 / 1) #8 Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:39:15 AM EST
"Breach of the peace" legislation is a bit like Situation 2. It can be applied to anything that causes alarm, disturbing or annoying somebody. Being naked by yourself (in a public place) is not a breach of the peace.

Appearing naked on a nudist beach would not be "a breach of the peace" either, but appearing naked in court (as this gentleman did) would most likely be (and usually, as in this case), also contempt.
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Socrates as new Odysseus by lm (4.00 / 1) #2 Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:17:43 PM EST
Depends on what you mean by Socrates being the new Odysseus. By the time of Plato, an allegorical interpretation of The Odyssey and The Iliad was fairly common. In this interpretation, Odysseus was considered to be an allegory of the human soul trying to make its way back to its true home (The Good Itself) after being incarnate in the material world, forgetting its true nature,  and being tempted with things of no consequence that weight it down and prevent its return to its true self.

I don't think it exceptionally controversial to see Plato's characterization of Socrates serving much the same literary role in his dialogues as Odysseus served in the allegorical interpretation of Homer.

On the other hand, I think it's a very good question as to whether the allegorical interpretation of Homer has any bearing to Homer's intent in writing his poetry.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic