Favourite female role model

My mum   1 vote - 6 %
Zelda   1 vote - 6 %
Margareth Thatcher   3 votes - 20 %
Le DiDi   0 votes - 0 %
Germaine Greer   2 votes - 13 %
Jade Goody   0 votes - 0 %
Hazel Blear   1 vote - 6 %
Joanna Lumley   2 votes - 13 %
Mother Theresa   2 votes - 13 %
Angela Merkel   1 vote - 6 %
Angela Davis   3 votes - 20 %
Condeleeza Rice   2 votes - 13 %
Ann Coulter   1 vote - 6 %
Naomi Klein   1 vote - 6 %
Kate Moss   2 votes - 13 %
Anita Roddick   2 votes - 13 %
Carla Bruni   3 votes - 20 %
Nico   0 votes - 0 %
Barbie   2 votes - 13 %
The main character from Audition   0 votes - 0 %
Kylie Minogue   2 votes - 13 %
Marie Curie   6 votes - 40 %
No, you are not allowed to say 'my wife/SO'   1 vote - 6 %
I wrote my own   1 vote - 6 %
View poll results   3 votes - 20 %
 
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Do you live in East London? by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu May 21, 2009 at 08:33:15 AM EST
A friend does, meeting people in the Muslim community was just a matter of joining a community group (I'll ask which if you're interested). The problem is everyone on every side expects the others to come to them, so all end up isolated.

She's quite enjoyed it. Got support from Muslims when she brought up pubs being converted into flats being detrimental to the local area.

And yeah the subservience is cultural rather than religious, most Bangladeshis in the UK are from rural areas and pretty badly educated. You'd probably get similar from hillbilly US immigrants from the Appalchians...

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hillbilly US immigrants from the Appalchians by xth (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri May 22, 2009 at 01:25:21 AM EST
They wouldn't make it out of the country, they probably see getting a passport akin to getting a Communist Party membership.

Yes I do, I live in the Brick Lane area. It is one of the least integrater area I"ve lived in, only Golders Green compares. Yth has been to some mother groups and although there's no hostility or anything, difference in lifestyle and income also mean we don't integrate very well.

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It's not very easy by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri May 22, 2009 at 05:05:59 AM EST
My friend is the only middle-class person on the committee she joined and while there is no hostility, she does get fed up with constantly being expected to take the lead.

White middle and working classes in the area meet in the pub and I think the community is pretty strong in that way, shame Muslims don't drink really.

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You need better Muslims by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri May 22, 2009 at 09:55:07 AM EST
the ones I work with drink.


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hillbilly US immigrants from the Appalchians by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri May 22, 2009 at 07:20:16 AM EST
Could drink an entire LHusi Beers under the table.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Especially if they start passing some of their by xth (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri May 22, 2009 at 08:20:14 AM EST
moonshine around

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don't bet on it. by garlic (2.00 / 0) #23 Tue May 26, 2009 at 06:22:01 PM EST


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I think this is very true by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri May 22, 2009 at 11:52:14 AM EST
Muslim immigrants to the US tend to be middle and upper class professionals so you see much less of this here.  You don't really see "Muslim communities" so much, though there are certainly a ton of Muslim immigrants around.
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WIPO by Herring (4.00 / 2) #2 Thu May 21, 2009 at 05:31:40 PM EST
Kim Deal

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

no women-only gyms? by clover kicker (4.00 / 1) #3 Thu May 21, 2009 at 08:38:24 PM EST
They're all over the place in Canuckistan.

What is a gym without the smell of testosterone? by xth (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri May 22, 2009 at 01:19:53 AM EST
They must feel odd

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There is a book by Monical Ali by sasquatchan (4.00 / 2) #4 Thu May 21, 2009 at 08:49:27 PM EST
called "Brick Lane" that covers oh so many of those topics, oddly enough.

Thee was a lot of controversy about that book by xth (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri May 22, 2009 at 01:18:53 AM EST
I don't remember exactly why, but both Germanine Greer and Salman Rusdhie got involved. Perhaps I should read it

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I usually hate books like that by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri May 22, 2009 at 05:18:17 AM EST
You know, award-winning "authentic" ones the Guardian goes on about, especially after reading"White Teeth which I though was awful. But Brick Lane is actually pretty good and very well written.

A good book about the area's Jewish past is "Rondinsky's Room" by Rachel Lichenstein and Iain Sinclair.

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Same here by xth (4.00 / 1) #15 Fri May 22, 2009 at 11:55:49 AM EST
as much as I share some of the paper's political views, I am not a fan of their cultural sections, there seem a lot of snobbery and name dropping in there. I will check out those books.

'Bloody Foreigners' is full of fun facts about the waves of immigration to the area, but it's very dry and a bit tedious to read.

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Definitely recommend Rodinsky's Room by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri May 22, 2009 at 04:53:42 PM EST
Lichenstein is a young Jewish woman trying to find her family's past so it's colourfully written. There's lots of strange stuff in it - old abandoned synagogues full of junk etc, and the little-known fact there are a lot of elderly Jewish people still in estates in the area. Iain Sinclair's bits jar a little which is odd cos he's usually very good, but they aren't a big part of the book.

It's quite sad though, all this history on the verge of being lost for ever. There were a lot of Yiddish scholars and poets in the area who's work is out of print and disappearing too.

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Yth did some work with the people at by xth (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri May 22, 2009 at 05:30:37 PM EST
the old synagogue at Princelet street [http://www.19princeletstreet.org.uk/]

People who run it are not quite with it, but an interesting place, worth a visit.
When open, that is.

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Been meaning to do stuff like that by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #18 Fri May 22, 2009 at 06:22:53 PM EST
The titular Rodinsky's Room is a museum now as well, by private appointment. I have friends in the area but I don't live locally which makes sorting this stuff out tricky (if you're lazy like me anyway)

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...it's the same one! by xth (4.00 / 1) #19 Sat May 23, 2009 at 04:15:48 AM EST
http://www.19princeletstreet.org.uk/press/liberation.html

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WIPO - Émilie du Châtelet [nt] by Phage (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri May 22, 2009 at 06:45:27 AM EST


Æon Flux original shorts by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #20 Sun May 24, 2009 at 09:11:27 AM EST
Made as part of MTV's "Liquid Television" are good if you can find them, or haven't seen them already.

WIPO Isabel Burton and Qiu Jin

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo

Are they the ones in which Æon is silent? by xth (2.00 / 0) #21 Mon May 25, 2009 at 07:38:01 AM EST
There seem to be lots of versions knocking about.

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She is silent as I recall by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #22 Mon May 25, 2009 at 09:29:54 AM EST
Also they are much shorter, maybe 5 min? Perhaps most memorably, she dies in every episode.

There are less than ten as I recall. I liked the series it evolved into too though.

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