Gothiest band?

Bauhaus   3 votes - 23 %
The Cure   3 votes - 23 %
Sioxsie and the Banshees   1 vote - 7 %
Joy Division   0 votes - 0 %
New Order   0 votes - 0 %
The Church   1 vote - 7 %
The Cocteau Twins   1 vote - 7 %
Robert Smith   2 votes - 15 %
The Cult   0 votes - 0 %
The Damned   0 votes - 0 %
Nine Inch Nails   2 votes - 15 %
Throbbing Gristle   0 votes - 0 %
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds   0 votes - 0 %
WIPO   0 votes - 0 %
13 Total Votes
furring and styrofoam ? by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #1 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 05:03:05 AM EST
I don't have dormer windows, but wouldn't you want the normal fiberglass batting ? (faced or unfaced, I don't know..).. And furring strips to what, screw/nail the styrofoam to ? And are you using the pink foam (R-10) or the styrofoam with radiant foil on one side (~R-7.1 I think..) ?

(I put two layers, one of each, on my attic doors, but duct-taped and screwed them into the door.. Not sure if it's a good fit, but we'll see.. Some gaps remains between the door and insulation in places.. Might take tape off and just glue if all else fails. I'll staple the radiant barrier on to the joists this weekend, hopefully.. )

It's an old house by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 05:13:26 AM EST
the dormer joists are only about 4 inches deep, and they're irregularly spaced, so I can't find batting that will fit. The attic proper is a little better, the joists are 6 inches deep, and more or less spaced right, though sometimes I have to reinforce the fiberglass to stay there with cardboard strips.

I use the furring for a spacer, so air can circulate between the roof and styrofoam. I use about 6 foot by 2 foot by 1 inch pieces of styrofoam, in 5 pack bundles, which I cut to fit often at an angle, since the dormer meets the roof in an odd way), and overlap, and the put a vapor barrier up. It's definitely labor intensive.

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Deadhead/Punk by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 05:48:49 AM EST
There was a surprising amount of overlap between those crowds. At least in DCia. I'd see the same people at Grateful Dead shows and Dead Kennedys shows. Which led to bad jokes about the Grateful Dead Kennedys.

Remember the TV show "The Banana Splits"? The Dead Kennedys did a cover of the theme song from that show. Very weird. And funny.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

Vaguely, one banana two banana three banana by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #4 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 05:52:31 AM EST
four, beyond that, not much, too much Quisp as a kid Saturday mornings fried my brain cells.

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That's it, now imagine it by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 05:53:44 AM EST
At punk time, with screaming guitars and vocals.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Now I must spend hours by Phage (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 06:07:35 AM EST
Scouring the 'nets.
Damn you.

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One version by by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:31:31 AM EST
The Dickies.

I know there's a DK version, damned if I can find it.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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It's fun to watch reading `click' in a kid's head by lm (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 06:11:59 AM EST
My eldest used to complain up a storm about being taught to read. Then one day it hit her like a Mack truck that words mean things. Apparently she had thought that when she was being read to, we were just pulling the story out of our butts. But once the secret that words mean things was divulged to her, she started reading almost non-stop.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
Yeah, she's been reading words for about two years by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 06:18:38 AM EST
sentences for a year, and now it's all coming together.

She was watching Harry Potter 4 last night, and we talked about the relationships between Ron, Harry and Hermione. She wanted to know how they ended up, I told her to read the end of Book 7. I can do that now.

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My son is close by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:11:23 AM EST
Just a couple weeks he went from "no you read it!" to reading his beginning books in the corner.
[ucblockhead is] useless and subhuman
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If he's the one reading, sounds like he gets it by lm (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:13:44 AM EST
With my daughter, it wasn't that she didn't have the mechanical skill. She just didn't grasp what the point was. There was some sort of disconnect between being able to decipher letters into words and words into sentences on the one hand and understanding that those sentences were the story.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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RIASC? by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:09:07 AM EST
Rochester Is A Small City by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:13:37 AM EST
I bring it up when I have serendipitous meetings with friends and acquaintances, such as running into Irish_girl at a local restaurant.

Oh yeah, a neighbor from across the street was there, too.

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Whenever we see belly dancing class signs at by garlic (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:52:45 AM EST
the gym, I try mild persuasion, but I don't think it's working.

Have you printed out pictures of belly dancers by georgeha (4.00 / 1) #15 Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 10:02:11 AM EST
and left them around?

Mrs. Ha does like to work out, and just joined a gym who seem to be really good (they hound you to keep working out).

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I've read Castles Of Steel by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #16 Sat Mar 07, 2009 at 02:06:28 AM EST
Very good. The Battle of Jutland with the dozens of big battleships and battlecruiser firing must have been something to behold. Doesn't suprise me that Royal Navy was let down by inferior technology and leadership although the result of Jutland didn't actually change anything.

First Lord of the Admiralty = Navy minister (could be an ordinary MP like Churchill)
First Sea Lord = Commander in Chief of the Royal Navy (a senior admiral)
Second Sea Lord = Deputy Commander in Chief of the Navy (a senior admiral)
Third, fourth etc Sea Lords = Commanders of various branches or functions of the Royal Navy

If you enjoyed Castles Of Steel, I recommend Cornelli Barnet's Engage The Enemy More Closely which covers similar ground in terms of the RN in WW2. Although still with similar technological defects as in WW2 in terms of ship building, the Royal Navy's leadership was vastly better than in WW1 which was fortunate as they were frequently outnumbered in battle unlike in WW1.

I'll look out for Barnet by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #17 Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 11:23:49 AM EST
but I still think battleships were a waste, overall.

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They were useful in WW1 by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #18 Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 12:44:50 PM EST
As more of a deterrent and the British naval blockade did cause the Germans a lot of difficulties. The whole naval arms race between Britain and Germany leading up to WW1 was very similar to the Cold War arms race in many ways.

During WW2 the battleships were fairly useful in the Atlantic and the Med in the early part of the war. Almost completely useless apart from shore bomabardment in the Pacific though and overall not worth the money and especially the industrial resources spent on them.

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From what I've read by houser2112 (2.00 / 0) #20 Wed Mar 11, 2009 at 12:08:16 PM EST
The Royal Navy's insistence on firing speed at all costs caused normal safety precautions to be discarded, resulting in many unnecessary casualties from propellant laying around that should've been stowed.  Was that what you meant by leadership, or were you referring to tactics?

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Robert Smith is really God. by me0w (2.00 / 0) #19 Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 02:01:10 PM EST
I'ma gunna have all his babies.

In high school one of my friends was the spitting image of Robert Smith. I had a crush on him.